Searching for a Special Sweeper

flyingace24

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    So far I have 5 Pokemon (all EV trained) on my team. The only thing I need want is a Special Sweeper.

    I was thinking of just Pal Parking my Alakazam, but he got screwed over when Ice and Thunder Punch changed to physical moves. None of the other moves Alakazam can learn interest me very much.

    So if anyone could suggest a special sweeper, I'd be very grateful.
     
    Seeing in how I specialize in grass-types, I suggest Roserade. But thats just my opinion. It would be eaiser to tell what you exatly need if you say who else is on your team.
     
    So far, I have:
    Shuckle
    Zangoose
    Metagross
    Blissey
    Skarmory

    EDIT: I was actually thinking of changing either Metagross or Zangoose for Mamoswine. It will most likely be Zangoose, but I'm not sure yet.
     
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    Your team has a massive weakness against fire.
     
    Sweet merciful heavens, he's right. Well, you could try Porygon-Z, or your Alakazam might work.
     
    Fire is it? I only see Metagross and Skarmory. I have a bigger weakness to fighting than fire. But my Blissey can take almost any fire Pokemon.
     
    Zangoose is super cool but really really sucks. Special sweeper I would say Aerodactyl. He has a great moveset, hes got real good attack, and hes fast. For Moves I would suggest a combination of Flying, Fire, Rock, and Dragon type moves cause Aerodactyl can learn most of those. Just my suggestion.
     
    Aerodactyl can Physical Sweep, but he can't by any means Special Sweep.

    Now, as far as I can tell, Infernape rapes your team, and I mean thoroughly. What you need is a good Water Sweeper, so give Starmie a go.

    Starmie @ Leftovers
    Ability: Natural Cure
    EVs: 172 HP / 88 SAtk / 248 Spd
    Timid Nature (+Spd, -Atk)
    - Surf
    - Ice Beam
    - Thunderbolt
    - Psychic / Recover
    That's a sweeper Starmie. If you intend on using Psychic instead of Recover, make the EV Spread 4 HP / 252 Spd / 252 SAtk and change the item to Life Orb or Choice Specs.
     
    How about Porygon-Z like:
    Modest
    EVs:Special Attack 255/Speed 255
    Salac Berry
    Adaptability
    Tri Attack
    Nasty Plot
    Psy Beam/Ice Beam
    Thunder Bolt

    With Np it makes it's Special Attack higher, plus with Tri Attack, Adaptability and alredy high Sp. Attack, it whoops butt
     
    I have already thought of using Starmie and Porygon Z. I already have a level 1 modest Porygon, so I already have a start. But he has download (crap ability). So we'll see.

    Thanks for the suggestions guys. I really appreciate it.
     
    download is AWESOME... =/ . it's so good for him as a starter too. i personally run my Porygon-Z at Choice Scarf and keep him as my starter. the chances are high that the other starter will have a +Speed nature, which in return, raises his speed only higher. Adaptability, with my Choice Scarf set, would only boost Hyper Beam higher, which is a little pointless when Hyper Beam gets STAB anyway.

    but you definitely need to drop shuckle for something else.
     
    I apologize. I didn't read the description right. Download IS awesome. I might use Porygon Z, but my friend is already using it and I don't want to copy (one of my other friends copied my Tyranitar, so maybe...).

    And Shuckle is going to stay. I spent at least 150 hours on my FireRed training him to level 100 from an egg. Plus I like it. It (or she in my case) is one of my favorite Pokemon.
     
    I like your style, you like to be original. Shuckle has great defense for water type and is annoying as hell. Use Shuckle as a wall even though its weak against alot of different types it has great Defense and Spc Defense. Teach it Baton Pass and some kind of stat raiser. Other people might boo this idea but I think you should try it.
     
    plasmapistol said:
    I like your style, you like to be original. Shuckle has great defense for water type and is annoying as hell. Use Shuckle as a wall even though its weak against alot of different types it has great Defense and Spc Defense. Teach it Baton Pass and some kind of stat raiser. Other people might boo this idea but I think you should try it.
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    Yeah, you should also teach it Toxic, like Pike Queen Lucy.
     
    Thanks for your comment plasmapistol.

    And my Shuckle has Toxic. I has:
    Toxic
    Protect
    Rest
    Sandstorm

    I was thinking of replacing sandstorm with something else, but I don't know what.
     
    well sandstorm is pretty cool on it because 1) damage on types other than rock, steel, and ground and 2)it raises its special defense.

    but seriously, you really don't want shuckle. all it takes is a subpasser to a pokemon with a stat boosting attack to take it out in a couple hits, and then destroy the rest of your team.
     
    I read you wanted to maybe swap Mamoswine in, Well I agree, Mamo rocks, here is a good couple of movesets for an idea of what to choose:

    Mamoswine @ Leftovers
    Trait: (whatever, they don't help)
    EVs: 200 ~ 252 Atk / 200 ~ 252 HP / 104 Spd (If the others are 200)
    Moveset:
    - Ice Shard (With STAB it goes to 60, and it Owns dragons!)
    - Earthquake!
    - Stone Edge
    - Stealth Rock (I agree with you samson lol)

    Just a random question Samson, Sandstorm raises def, does it raise his, because sandstorm could help him survive some hits, as well as whittle peoples HP

    Mamoswine @ Choice Scarf
    Trait: (whatever, they don't help imo)
    EVs: 200 ~ 252 Atk / 104 HP (If you want, idk) / 200 ~ 252 Spd
    Moveset:
    - Ice Shard
    - Earthquake!
    - Stone Edge
    - Peck (Helps against Hera)

    I really wish someone would hurry up with a D/P damage counter, I really want to check some things, *sigh*
     
    sandstorm raises ALL rock type pokemon's special defense stat by approximately 33%, not defense.

    also, if you're going to have mamoswine @ choice scarf, you have gotta do better than that! i suggest go for as much power as you can: Avalanche/EQ/Stone Edge/Bite. i really don't know how much bite would come in handy, but Stealth Rock is still a good choice on mamoswine even w/ choice scarf. bring it in for stealth rock and switch the hell out. besides, heracross isn't a threat to Mamoswine. w/ choice scarf, it can outrun it and take it out with one Avalanche.
     
    Samson said:
    sandstorm raises ALL rock type pokemon's special defense stat by approximately 33%, not defense.

    also, if you're going to have mamoswine @ choice scarf, you have gotta do better than that! i suggest go for as much power as you can: Avalanche/EQ/Stone Edge/Bite. i really don't know how much bite would come in handy, but Stealth Rock is still a good choice on mamoswine even w/ choice scarf. bring it in for stealth rock and switch the hell out. besides, heracross isn't a threat to Mamoswine. w/ choice scarf, it can outrun it and take it out with one Avalanche.
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    Nooo, the reason I still have the Ice move, Ice shard is to own dragons!, lol the main choice scarf is for the other 3 moves!
     
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