Shoddy ladder team.

[Towlie]

Pretty straightforward. This team has been doing pretty good on shoddy ladder, and I actually like this team.


Zapdos @ Leftovers
Ability: Pressure
EVs: 252 HP/132 Def/40 Spd/84 SAtk
Modest nature (+SAtk, -Atk)
- Thunderbolt
- Substitute
- Hidden Power [Ice]
- Baton Pass

Starter. Scouts with a Substitute at the start, then can baton pass to get a pokemon in with a free sub.


Regice @ Leftovers
Ability: Clear Body
EVs: 252 HP/124 Def/56 SAtk/76 SDef
Calm nature (+SDef, -Atk)
- Ice Beam
- Rest
- Sleep Talk
- Thunderbolt

Special wall that's cooler than Blissey. (Lol pun) Takes hits then hits back pretty hard.


Gliscor (♂) @ Leftovers
Ability: Sand Veil
EVs: 252 HP/4 Atk/252 Def
Impish nature (+Def, -SAtk)
- Aerial Ace
- Earthquake
- Stealth Rock
- Roost

The flying scorpion that sets up rocks. Great Heracross and Breloom counter.


Medicham (♂) @ Choice Scarf
Ability: Pure Power
EVs: 4 HP/252 Atk/252 Spd
Jolly nature (+Spd, -SAtk)
- Hi Jump Kick
- Ice Punch
- Thunderpunch
- Psycho Cut

Recently added him over Tauros, as I needed a fighting move and this thing hits hard. May Replace Hi Jump Kick with Brick break if it starts to mess me up.


Sceptile (♂) @ Choice Specs
Ability: Overgrow
EVs: 4 HP/252 Spd/252 SAtk
Timid nature (+Spd, -Atk)
- Focus Blast
- Hidden Power [Fire]
- Leaf Storm
- Dragon Pulse

SpecsTile. Leaf Storm hits pretty much everything hard, even if it's NVE. I like a Specs set much more than a SubSeeder set.


Gyarados (♂) @ Leftovers
Ability: Intimidate
EVs: 212 HP/16 Atk/180 Def/100 Spd
Adamant nature (+Atk, -SAtk)
- Waterfall
- Dragon Dance
- Earthquake
- Taunt

Normally you see Leads as Gyara, but since I don't run Electivire, he'll stay here. Standard bulkydos spread.

 

[Smarties-chan]

I'll move this to GB Strategies and Movesets where it belongs.

 

[El Gofre]

you have ubers, therefore this team is not usable in competetive play. rethink your legendries. on top of that regice is tyhe only poke you have that isnt a sweeper. rethink and add some walls in place of your legends

 

[sims796]

He doesn't have A SINGLE UBER.

There is a BIG difference between LEGENDS and UBERS. Learn that. His legends are ok.

Gliscor is not a sweeper. Pretty good wall, actually.

 

[El Gofre]

according to the battling thread on this site they are unusable, which in my books makes them ubers

 

[sims796]

Excuse me? Where did you learn that? They are in no way uber. You need to know that not all legends are ubers. Zapdos is far too fragile. One Stone Edge means its over. Regice almost fell to my Raichu. He has great sp.def, but LOUSY offenses.

Just because they are legends, does NOT make them uber.

 

[Dark Azelf]

Pretty straightforward. This team has been doing pretty good on shoddy ladder, and I actually like this team.


Zapdos @ Leftovers
Ability: Pressure
EVs: 252 HP/132 Def/40 Spd/84 SAtk
Modest nature (+SAtk, -Atk)
- Thunderbolt
- Substitute
- Hidden Power [Ice]
- Baton Pass

Standard

Regice @ Leftovers
Ability: Clear Body
EVs:Either 252 HP / 252 DEF / 6 SP.DEF OR 252 HP/ 240 Def / 12 sp.att /4 sp.def
Calm nature (+SDef, -Atk)
- Ice Beam
- Rest
- Sleep Talk
- Thunderbolt

In D/P it really needs more EV invested into defense. Regice needs to keep itself alive as long as possible and it already has 480 Sp.Def, so Def is where those evs are really needed, for dual walling purposes. I use this > Blissey aswell.


Gliscor (♂) @ Leftovers
Ability: Sand Veil
EVs: 252 HP/4 Atk/252 Def
Impish nature (+Def, -SAtk)
- Aerial Ace
- Earthquake
- Stealth Rock
- Roost

Standard

Medicham (♂) @ Choice Scarf
Ability: Pure Power
EVs: 4 HP/252 Atk/252 Spd
Jolly nature (+Spd, -SAtk)
- Hi Jump Kick
- Ice Punch
- Thunderpunch
- Psycho Cut

Standard

You can put Brick Break>Hi Jump Kick on this if you fear the recoil it will take if it misses, you can also put Adamant Nature, however ill leave this for you to decide.

Sceptile (♂) @ Choice Specs
Ability: Overgrow
EVs: 4 HP/252 Spd/252 SAtk
Timid nature (+Spd, -Atk)
- Focus Blast
- Hidden Power [Fire]
- Leaf Storm
- Dragon Pulse

Standard

Gyarados (♂) @ Leftovers
Ability: Intimidate
EVs: 212 HP/16 Atk/180 Def/100 Spd
Adamant nature (+Atk, -SAtk)
- Waterfall
- Dragon Dance
- Earthquake
- Taunt

Standard,

Changes are in bold

yeah just a couple of better options and ive left some for you to decide.


Also just watch out for Bolt-Beamers and Nasty Plotters


EDIT : Sims you got in 2 Nasty Plots with Raichu thats why my Regice nearly died, you cant expect Regice to survive with Raichus Sp.Att raised by X4 lol.

Also its offences are pretty good base 100 sp.att is not too shabby.

 

[luke]

Someone just used an Arceus against me in a Ladder Match. He didn't speak a word of English and he kept using Ice Beam against my Milotic. X.x; Just watch out for Weavile leads when using Zapdos. Though I haven't seen as many Weavile leads lately on Shoddy, they're still dangerous.

 

[Alter Ego]

I'd be more concerned about Wonder Guard Spiritomb, tbh.

At any rate, I lawl at the way gofre disses Gliscor's L33T walling skills. (Seriously, dude, did you think that 252 HP / 252 Def is there just for the heck of it? -.-). Anyways, you have a bit of a Stealth Rock weak on this team and I really, really hate to think what a well-played Tyranitar does to it. Also, Adamant > Jolly on Medicham. That Scarf should give you all the speed you need, but any boosts to Atk are amplified by Pure Power. Oh, and HP [Grass] might be preferable to HP [Ice] on Zapdos since you already have a boltbeamer in Regice.

Imho, Cresselia would make for a better special wall, though. With Stealth Rock around, Regice just isn't what it used to be. :\

 

[sims796]

Whoops, coulda sworn Regice's SP.ATK was lower.

Still, a REAL uber coulda ended Raichu, despite his two Nasty Plots.

Then again, not even Blissey can stand up to my Sparks with two Nasty Plots.

 

[Faceless*]

Gofre's still very inexperienced, leave the boy alone if he won't agree

Otherwise, the team looks pretty good, Lum Berry on Zapdos can work for those Pokemon that leads team with Hypnosis that all have speed over 105 (Rapidash, Gengar.. etc.)

 

[sims796]

But he shouldn't tell that to others-he will only mess them up.

 

[Faceless*]

We will know what comes out of him is wrong and ignore the fact XD

Also, Regice only being Ice type makes iy vunerable to Stealth Rock, something you would not want a Special Wall to be wasted. Stealth Rock destroys your team, Medicham being the only one "resistant" toward it doesn't make a difference because he is none of the following: 1.Wall/2.Rapid Spinner

Switching and swapping in battles are walls main purpose. You need Rapid Spinner :P

 

[Towlie]

Agreed. I know I could use a spinner on this team. Maybe Donphan > Gliscor? Donphan should be able to do what Gliscor can do, but can't effectively counter Hera.

Even with Regice being weak to SR, I hardly notice it, since it takes minimal damage to most. I'll test out 480 Sp. Def on Regice. I used that EV spread to hit 500 Sp. Def. I'll consider the Grass over Ice on Zapdos too.

Thanks everyone.

 

[Iceman3k]

you have ubers, therefore this team is not usable in competetive play. rethink your legendries. on top of that regice is tyhe only poke you have that isnt a sweeper. rethink and add some walls in place of your legends

He has no ubers. So hush.

Zapdos @ Leftovers
Ability: Pressure
EVs: 252 HP/132 Def/40 Spd/84 SAtk
Modest nature (+SAtk, -Atk)
- Thunderbolt
- Substitute
- Hidden Power [Ice]
- Baton Pass

Starter. Scouts with a Substitute at the start, then can baton pass to get a pokemon in with a free sub.
Not necessarily a free Sub since Zapdos loses it before the BP when it gets hit, due to lack of Speed.
This looks like it can work though.

Regice @ Leftovers
Ability: Clear Body
EVs: 252 HP/124 Def/56 SAtk/76 SDef
Calm nature (+SDef, -Atk)
- Ice Beam
- Rest
- Sleep Talk
- Thunderbolt
Okay.

Gliscor (♂) @ Leftovers
Ability: Sand Veil
EVs: 252 HP/4 Atk/252 Def
Impish nature (+Def, -SAtk)
- Aerial Ace
- Earthquake
- Stealth Rock
- Roost
Yep

Medicham (♂) @ Choice Scarf
Ability: Pure Power
EVs: 4 HP/252 Atk/252 Spd
Jolly nature (+Spd, -SAtk)
- Hi Jump Kick
- Ice Punch
- Thunderpunch
- Psycho Cut
Right on



Sceptile (♂) @ Choice Specs
Ability: Overgrow
EVs: 4 HP/252 Spd/252 SAtk
Timid nature (+Spd, -Atk)
- Focus Blast
- Hidden Power [Rock]
- Leaf Storm
- Dragon Pulse

SpecsTile. Leaf Storm hits pretty much everything hard, even if it's NVE. I like a Specs set much more than a SubSeeder set.
HP Rock for better coverage imo.

Gyarados (♂) @ Leftovers
Ability: Intimidate
EVs: 212 HP/16 Atk/180 Def/100 Spd
Adamant nature (+Atk, -SAtk)
- Waterfall
- Dragon Dance
- Earthquake / Ice Fang / Stone Edge
- Taunt
Waterfall can hurt Electrics enough. Ice Fang is an optional choice to combat the Dragon Sweepers.

Looks like you don't have much of an SAtk Resist (Or Physical, how's that for ironic), as the common sweepers can break past both of those with ease. Also, Stealth Rock can punish you since 3/6 of your Pokemon are weak to Stealth Rock.

EDIT: Since I don't know what you guys do on this "Shoddy", then my advice might be for naught, but eh, so much for trying.

 

[Arcknight316]

Pretty straightforward. This team has been doing pretty good on shoddy ladder, and I actually like this team.


Zapdos @ Leftovers
Ability: Pressure
EVs: 252 HP/132 Def/40 Spd/84 SAtk
Modest nature (+SAtk, -Atk)
- Thunderbolt
- Substitute
- Hidden Power [Ice]
- Baton Pass

Starter. Scouts with a Substitute at the start, then can baton pass to get a pokemon in with a free sub.

--Why Ice? I'd use fire.--

Regice @ Leftovers
Ability: Clear Body
EVs: 252 HP/124 Def/56 SAtk/76 SDef
Calm nature (+SDef, -Atk)
- Ice Beam
- Rest
- Sleep Talk
- Thunderbolt

Special wall that's cooler than Blissey. (Lol pun) Takes hits then hits back pretty hard.

--Fine, fine. This guy's Sp. Def is pretty amazing, actually.--

Gliscor (♂) @ Leftovers
Ability: Sand Veil
EVs: 252 HP/4 Atk/252 Def
Impish nature (+Def, -SAtk)
- Aerial Ace
- Earthquake
- Stealth Rock
- Roost

The flying scorpion that sets up rocks. Great Heracross and Breloom counter.


--Yeah.--

Medicham (♂) @ Choice Scarf
Ability: Pure Power
EVs: 4 HP/252 Atk/252 Spd
Jolly nature (+Spd, -SAtk)
- Hi Jump Kick
- Ice Punch
- Thunderpunch
- Psycho Cut

Recently added him over Tauros, as I needed a fighting move and this thing hits hard. May Replace Hi Jump Kick with Brick break if it starts to mess me up.

--I'd go with Brick Beak. What's Ice Punch for?--

Sceptile (♂) @ Choice Specs
Ability: Overgrow
EVs: 4 HP/252 Spd/252 SAtk
Timid nature (+Spd, -Atk)
- Focus Blast
- Hidden Power [Fire]
- Leaf Storm
- Dragon Pulse

SpecsTile. Leaf Storm hits pretty much everything hard, even if it's NVE. I like a Specs set much more than a SubSeeder set.

--Fire? Go with rock.--

Gyarados (♂) @ Leftovers
Ability: Intimidate
EVs: 212 HP/16 Atk/180 Def/100 Spd
Adamant nature (+Atk, -SAtk)
- Waterfall
- Dragon Dance
- Earthquake
- Taunt

Normally you see Leads as Gyara, but since I don't run Electivire, he'll stay here. Standard bulkydos spread.

--Yeah--

You don't have to listen to me; I'm a terrible rater. My team isn't so good either. Even after a bunch of criticism, my team still kinda sucks.

 

[Towlie]

Why Rock over Fire for Sceptile? I like Fire due to the face Dragon Pulse is only resisted by Steel, which gets hurt by HP Fire.

 

[sims796]

They say Rock because it hits every type (including all weaknesses for 2-4x damage) 'CEPT Steel. Which, as you said, Fire-Dragon works just fine. I say use HP [FIRE].