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Shoddy Team Revised

Guillermo

i own a rabbit heh
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    First up I made this Shoddy team with the help of Vance and .tRUTH so i think it is fairly good. Please help and rate thanks.

    Blissey @Leftovers
    Nature- Bold
    EVs- 42HP/216ATK/252DEF
    Moveset- Toxic
    Seismic Toss
    Aromatherapy
    Softboiled

    Tyranitar @Choice Band
    Nature- Adamant
    EVs- 252/HP/252ATK/6SP
    Moveset- Stone Edge
    Earthquake
    Pursuit
    Crunch

    Vaporeon @ Leftovers
    Nature- Bold
    EVs- 186 HP/252ATK/70DEF
    Moveset- Ice Beam
    Surf
    Wish
    HP ( Electric )

    Weezing @ Leftovers
    Nature- Bold
    EVs- 252HP/252ATK/6SpA
    Moveset- Haze
    Will-O-Wisp
    Flamethrower
    Pain Split

    Lucario @ Adamant Orb
    Nature- Adamant
    EVs- 6HP/252ATK/252SP
    Moveset- Close Combat
    Crunch
    ExtremeSpeed
    Swords Dance

    Raikou @ Leftovers
    Nature- Timid
    EVs- 6HP/252SP/252SpA
    Moveset- Thunderbolt
    Calm Mind
    HP ( Ice )
    Substitute
     
    *Dark*Master said:
    First up I made this Shoddy team with the help of Vance and .tRUTH so i think it is fairly good. Please help and rate thanks.

    Blissey @Leftovers
    Nature- Calm
    EVs- 42HP/216 Sp.Def/252DEF
    Moveset- Toxic
    Seismic Toss
    Aromatherapy
    Softboiled

    Attack on Blissey =/.

    Tyranitar @Choice Band
    Nature- Adamant
    EVs- 188HP/252ATK/72SPeed
    Moveset- Stone Edge
    Earthquake
    Pursuit
    Crunch

    Use 72 speed evs, IIRC this beats min skarmorys speed so it cant roost and stall you out of stone edges.

    Vaporeon @ Leftovers
    Nature- Bold
    EVs- 186 HP/252Def/70Sp.Def
    Moveset- Ice Beam
    Surf
    Wish
    HP ( Electric )

    Attack evs ? =/.

    Weezing @ Leftovers
    Nature- Bold
    EVs- 252HP/252Def/6SpA
    Moveset
    Taunt
    Will-O-Wisp
    Flamethrower / Sludge Bomb
    Pain Split

    Attack evs ? =/. I prefer Taunt >Haze, it stops stuff setting up on weezing and i just generally find it more helpful, especially against stuff like sub seed breloom.

    Lucario @ Life Orb
    Nature- Adamant
    EVs- 6HP/252ATK/252SP
    Moveset- Close Combat
    Crunch
    ExtremeSpeed
    Swords Dance

    adamant Orb ? Life Orb you mean.

    Raikou @ Leftovers
    Nature- Timid
    EVs- 64 HP / 96 Sp.A / 96 Sp.D / 252 Speed
    Moveset- Thunderbolt
    Calm Mind
    HP ( Ice )
    Substitute

    Blegh ev spread.
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    Comments in bold.

    Yeah...pretty much.
     
    Ok thanks. I accidentally mixed blissey's attack and HP around. Blissey is supposed to be this

    Blissey @Leftovers
    Nature- Bold
    EVs- 216HP/42ATK/252DEF
    Moveset- Toxic
    Seismic Toss
    Aromatherapy
    Softboiled
     
    *Dark*Master said:
    Ok thanks. I accidentally mixed blissey's attack and HP around. Blissey is supposed to be this

    Blissey @Leftovers
    Nature- Bold
    EVs- 216HP/42ATK/252DEF
    Moveset- Toxic
    Seismic Toss
    Aromatherapy
    Softboiled
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    Blissey doesnt need ANY attack =/


    Read my previous post.
     
    WHY does it need attack? Seismic Toss already does a set 100 damage. Give it no attack EV's.
     
    Thats what everyone says so i guess i will give it SpDef then. Is that the best place to put it? Also i was thinking if i went for Blissey's EVs i would go

    252HP/252DEF/6SpDef

    Also D_A if i gave Weezing Taunt wouldn't both TTar and Weezing have taunt? What's the point in that

    *Edit D_A with TTar his edited Evs ( By you ) would be 512. That isn't possible
     
    *Dark*Master said:
    Thats what everyone says so i guess i will give it SpDef then. Is that the best place to put it? Also i was thinking if i went for Blissey's EVs i would go

    252HP/252DEF/6SpDef

    Also D_A if i gave Weezing Taunt wouldn't both TTar and Weezing have taunt? What's the point in that

    *Edit D_A with TTar his edited Evs ( By you ) would be 512. That isn't possible
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    Remove 2 from hp then.

    How can Tar have taunt, it has a choice band ,,,

    252 DEF / 216 Sp.DEF / 40 HP @Calm nature on Blissey.
     
    He doesn't i forgot it had Choice Band until i looked at it. Well this is the team now so please tell me if it is improved


    Blissey @Leftovers
    Nature- Calm
    EVs- 252HP/6SpD/252DEF
    Moveset- Toxic
    Seismic Toss
    Aromatherapy
    Softboiled

    Tyranitar @Choice Band
    Nature- Adamant
    EVs- 188/HP/252ATK/70SP
    Moveset- Stone Edge
    Earthquake
    Pursuit
    Crunch

    Vaporeon @ Leftovers
    Nature- Bold
    EVs- 188 HP/252ATK/70SP
    Moveset- Ice Beam
    Surf
    Wish
    HP ( Electric )

    Weezing @ Leftovers
    Nature- Bold
    EVs- 252HP/252DEF/6SpA
    Moveset- Haze
    Will-O-Wisp
    Flamethrower
    Pain Split

    Lucario @ Life Orb
    Nature- Adamant
    EVs- 6HP/252ATK/252SP
    Moveset- Close Combat
    Crunch
    ExtremeSpeed
    Swords Dance

    Raikou @ Leftovers
    Nature- Timid
    EVs- 64HP/252SP/96SpA/96SpD
    Moveset- Thunderbolt
    Calm Mind
    HP ( Ice )
    Substitute

    Is that any better
     
    Blisey: 40 HP, 252 DEF, 216 Sp.Def

    WHy does Vaporean have attack Ev's? Change those into Sp.Attk
     
    Blissey doesn't need that much SpD as she can survive most attacks with her massive HP anyway. And she also has Softboiled in case it hurts her a bit. I think my Blissey is now fine as The Postman has helped me with my Blissey. I will change Vaporeon into as follows.

    Vaporeon @ Leftovers
    Nature- Bold
    EVs- 186 HP/252Def/70Sp.Def
    Moveset- Ice Beam
    Surf
    Wish
    HP ( Electric )

    As stated by D_A
     
    *Dark*Master said:
    First up I made this Shoddy team with the help of Vance and .tRUTH so i think it is fairly good. Please help and rate thanks.

    Blissey @Leftovers
    Nature- Calm
    EVs- 40 HP, 252 Def, 216 Sp. Def
    Moveset-
    Toxic/Thunder Wave
    Seismic Toss
    Aromatherapy
    Softboiled

    Thunder Wave means you have some chance of stopping D-E , if you can predict correctly, just be careful your opponent doesn't switch Garchomp into it.

    Tyranitar @Choice Band
    Nature- Adamant
    EVs- 188 HP, 252 Atk, 72 Spd
    Moveset-
    Stone Edge
    Earthquake
    Pursuit
    Crunch

    Meh, like D_A said, 72 spd please, so Skarm doesn't lol at you.

    Vaporeon @ Leftovers
    Nature- Bold
    EVs- 188 HP/252 SP.ATK/68DEF
    Moveset-
    Ice Beam
    Surf
    Wish
    HP ( Electric )

    Ummm, yeah. It wants SP. ATK, not ATK.

    Weezing @ Leftovers
    Nature- Bold
    EVs- 252 HP, 252 Def, 6 Sp Atk
    Moveset-
    Thunderbolt
    Will-O-Wisp
    Flamethrower
    Pain Split

    Thunderbolt for Gyarados, and it doesn't need any Sp. Atk, but I suppose you can chuck those 6 EV's there if you like.

    Lucario @ Life Orb
    Nature- Adamant
    EVs- 6HP/252ATK/252SP
    Moveset-
    Close Combat
    Crunch
    ExtremeSpeed
    Swords Dance

    Life Orb, not Adamant Orb...

    Raikou @ Leftovers
    Nature- Timid
    EVs- 64 HP, 192 Sp. Atk, 252 Spd
    Moveset-
    Thunderbolt
    Calm Mind
    HP GRASS
    Substitute

    This wants HP GRASS so Swampert doesn't come in and lol at you. That EV spread means maximum leftovers recovery, and also means you can have some shot at surviving long enough to CM up.
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    So yeah, edits in bold. I'm now holding a meeting with Vance and Itachi, to kick them in the backside...because this team is horrible, although not as bad as before. :S

    ~T_S
     
    Actually. I already have put Lucario as Life Orb if you actually bothered to check. And why is this all about the bads. I need good points to ya know. Most of these changes have already been done. And i don't need Weezing to know TBolt as i already have Raikou with TBolt. I will change Raikou to HP ( Grass) if it is necessary.
     
    *Dark*Master said:
    Blissey doesn't need that much SpD
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    Actually she does. Specs boosted Aura Spheres, Focus blasts ect really tear holes out of blisseys with little SpDef investment. Her HP is large enough to carry her through without too much EV investment, but blissey really needs 252Def/216SpDef/40HP@Calm.
     
    Well. I didn't think of it that way Gofre. I guess your right but Focus Blast rarely shows up on Shoddy. I will give her the following

    Blissey @Leftovers
    Ability- Natural Cure
    EVs- 252DEF/216SpD/40HP
    Moveset- Aromatherapy
    Softboiled
    Seismic Toss
    Toxic ( TWave never seems to work anyway ) and besides Garchomps are SPAWNED on Shoddy.
    But are you sure about the HP?
     
    Yes, that is the New Standard Blissey, make sure to give her a Calm nature,
     
    She has a calm nature. I have been trying new things out and have found out that Seismic Toss is never strong enough to OHKO a normal type for me xD. O well
     
    Focus Blast rarely shows up on Shoddy
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    If you don't think focus blast is common, you've been lucky enough not to come across gengar- The second most used poke on the program (Source: Shoddy's Usage Statistics for June), or just avoided standard variants of it. Lucario also hits high at number 7, meaning aura sphere is a big thread.40 HP is enough, just don't question the standards ;)

    Seismic Toss is never strong enough
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    Blissey without seismic toss is epic fail. It needs a consistant source of damage, and seismic toss provides that. You will get laughed at if you use blissey without it.
     
    *Dark*Master said:
    She has a calm nature. I have been trying new things out and have found out that Seismic Toss is never strong enough to OHKO a normal type for me xD. O well
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    Well Blissey won't be OHKOing things, even Shuckle lol. It just wears stuff down and prevents it from getting stalled really badly.
     
    I would hope so. I thought something was wrong with my Blissey. But she is fine. I was wondering if Blissey could have any movesets that would OHKO anything at all?
     
    *Dark*Master said:
    I would hope so. I thought something was wrong with my Blissey. But she is fine. I was wondering if Blissey could have any movesets that would OHKO anything at all?
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    Well Blissey isn't supposed to OHKO things because she isn't supposed to OHKO things. Her offense is that of a snail, but you shouldn't worry about it as it doesn't matter at all.
     
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