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Shuko's first [semi-good] Netbattle Team. "I need help!!!" >_<

Shuko

Atena, WIN!
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    This is the team I'm currently using. Unfortunately, I'm not very good with movesets yet, so all of the movesets (And EVs) came from the SPPf moveset guide. :/ Still, I'm trying my best to learn which combinations work, and which ones don't... Does anyone have any constructive suggestions for replacements for any of my moves/pokemon/etc.? If so, please give a short description why, if it's not overtly obvious. I only started competitive battling yesterday, lol. ^^; (The values in the parentheses (after the stats) are EV's. Just so you know. :P

    Glalie @ Focus Band
    Rash
    -Explosion
    -Ice Beam
    -Spikes
    -Substitute
    HP: 302 (6)
    Attack: 196
    Defense: 196
    Speed: 259 (252)
    Sp. Attack: 284 (252)
    Sp. Defense: 176

    Altaria @ Leftovers
    Bold
    -Flamethrower
    -Haze
    -Ice Beam
    -Rest
    HP: 340 (196)
    Attack: 158
    Defense: 269 (116)
    Speed: 196
    Sp. Attack: 200 (96)
    Sp. Defense: 271 (100)

    Ampharos @ Quick Claw
    Quiet
    -Fire Punch
    -Focus Punch
    -Hidden Power (Grass)
    -Thunderbolt
    HP: 355 (136)
    Attack: 222 (147)
    Defense: 185
    Speed: 146 (70)
    Sp. Attack: 334 (157)
    Sp. Defense: 216

    Blaziken @ Salac Berry
    Naive
    -Endure
    -Reversal
    -Rock Slide
    -Swords Dance
    HP: 302 (6)
    Attack: 339 (252)
    Defense: 176
    Speed: 284 (252)
    Sp. Attack: 256
    Sp. Defense: 158

    Alakazam (Synchronize) @ Salac Berry
    Timid
    -Fire Punch
    -Ice Punch
    -Psychic
    -Thunderpunch
    HP: 252 (4)
    Attack: 122
    Defense: 126
    Speed: 372 (252)
    Sp. Attack: 369 (252)
    Sp. Defense: 206

    Aggron (Sturdy) @ Leftovers
    Brave
    -Fire Blast
    -Focus Punch
    -Hidden Power (Rock)
    -Substitute
    HP: 344 (252)
    Attack: 325 (162)
    Defense: 395
    Speed: 121
    Sp. Attack: 180 (96)
    Sp. Defense: 155
     
    Fixes in bold.

    Shuko said:
    Glalie @ Focus Band
    Rash
    -Explosion
    -Ice Beam
    -Spikes
    -Substitute
    HP: 302 (6)
    Attack: 196
    Defense: 196
    Speed: 259 (252)
    Sp. Attack: 284 (252)
    Sp. Defense: 176

    Looks alright, but I haven't seen many Glalie's, and I don't use one.

    Altaria @ Leftovers
    Bold
    -Flamethrower
    -Haze
    -Ice Beam
    -Rest
    HP: 340 (196)
    Attack: 158
    Defense: 269 (116)
    Speed: 196
    Sp. Attack: 200 (96)
    Sp. Defense: 271 (100)

    Again, not really sure of wht it can do, I've seen most of them with DD though.

    Ampharos @ Petaya Berry
    Quiet
    -Substitute
    -Focus Punch
    -Hidden Power (Grass)
    -Thunderbolt
    HP: 355 (136)
    Attack: 222 (147)
    Defense: 185
    Speed: 146 (70)
    Sp. Attack: 334 (157)
    Sp. Defense: 216

    Blaziken @ Salac Berry
    Naive
    -Sub
    -Reversal
    -EQ
    -Overheat
    HP: 302 (6)
    Attack: 339 (252)
    Defense: 176
    Speed: 284 (252)
    Sp. Attack: 256
    Sp. Defense: 158

    Or

    Blaziken@Lefties/Liechi Berry
    EVs:252 Attack, 252 Speed, 6 HP
    Swords Dance
    Rock Slide
    Earthquake
    Overheat



    Alakazam (Synchronize) @ Lefties
    Timid
    -Fire Punch/Recover
    -Calm Mind
    -Psychic
    -Thunderpunch
    HP: 252 (4)
    Attack: 122
    Defense: 126
    Speed: 372 (252)
    Sp. Attack: 369 (252)
    Sp. Defense: 206

    Aggron (Sturdy) @ Leftovers
    Brave
    -Earthquake
    -Focus Punch
    -Hidden Power (Rock)[/b]Rock Slide[/b]
    -Substitute
    HP: 344 (252)
    Attack: 325 (252)
    Defense: 395(6)
    Speed: 121
    Sp. Attack: 180
    Sp. Defense: 155

    Just remember he has a 4x weakness.

    I didn't help on all of their EVs, wasn't sure about some, and others were fine (Blaziken was one). Hope this helps!
    :D
     
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    O_O I never knew blaziken could learn those attacks..... *stares*
     
    Mullet said:
    Fixes in bold.



    Just remember he has a 4x weakness.

    I didn't help on all of their EVs, wasn't sure about some, and others were fine (Blaziken was one). Hope this helps!
    :D

    I understood a lot of the changes you made, but I have some questions:

    1. Why give Blaziken substitute?
    2. Why bother with Calm mind on Alakazam, when he'll get taken out by almost anything if you give them half a chance? Is it really worth it? It just seems to me that he's better used to hit hard and hit fast, and most importantly, hit first. Doesn't calm mind just give them a free shot at him?
    3. I have the same question about recover. it just seems kind of useless to me on an Alakazam, since he has so little HP, and so little defense. He'll recover a lot less than they'll take away from him. :( That's also why I don't think Leftovers is a good idea on him.
    4. I forgot about Aggron's x4 weakness to fighting! x_x Do you have any suggestions for a replacement? It was originally a meganium, but that one fell through. :P

    blaziken77 said:
    O_O I never knew blaziken could learn those attacks..... *stares*
    Some of them are egg moves, lol. There may be a Move tutor move in there too... *goes to check*
    -Endure = egg move
    -Reversal = egg move
    -Rock Slide = egg move
    -Swords dance = Move tutor. :P
     
    Answers in bold.

    Shuko said:
    I understood a lot of the changes you made, but I have some questions:

    1. Why give Blaziken substitute?
    On a Subrevver blaziken it will get his HP down much faster and protect him for status effects, believe me sub works, one or close to one HP gotten easily with the protection sub gives you will help when you use Reversal.
    2. Why bother with Calm mind on Alakazam, when he'll get taken out by almost anything if you give them half a chance? Is it really worth it? It just seems to me that he's better used to hit hard and hit fast, and most importantly, hit first. Doesn't calm mind just give them a free shot at him?
    People will not send out a Fighting type against Zam, that's for sure, he wil kill them, like on a first turn, they send out a Fighting type they will switch, giving you time for a CM, they will try to send in other Physical sweepers to try to kill him, in that case don't CM, just kill it, but when you get the chance CM, belive, me even only one CM for Zam, added to his already beastly Sp. attack will kill.
    3. I have the same question about recover. it just seems kind of useless to me on an Alakazam, since he has so little HP, and so little defense. He'll recover a lot less than they'll take away from him. :( That's also why I don't think Leftovers is a good idea on him.
    Recover heals one half his HP, it can work, that why I gave it as another option, like insted of, Lefties can wok too, or Petaya Berry as I posted, can also be used when low on HP, when you get a chance, like predicting when they will switch, Zam using CM, and Recover require prediction.
    4. I forgot about Aggron's x4 weakness to fighting! x_x Do you have any suggestions for a replacement? It was originally a meganium, but that one fell through. :P
    I like Secptile, or Swampert, you need a nice Water type, because I really don't like Glaile, but it's up to you.

    Hope this helps you better understand my suggestions!
     
    Mullet said:
    Answers in bold.



    Hope this helps you better understand my suggestions!

    Yes, much better! Thank you so much! XD I dunno about taking the Glalie out, though. :P I've been able to kill a lot of guys with him. That explosion is a great move, and with his speed there are actually a good range of pogeys I can use it on. But he really isn't overall very competitive. Maybe I should find a replacement for him. :(
     
    Glalie @ Focus Band
    Rash
    -Explosion
    -Ice Beam
    -Spikes
    -Substitute
    HP: 302 (6)
    Attack: 196
    Defense: 196
    Speed: 259 (252)
    Sp. Attack: 284 (252)
    Sp. Defense: 176
    That set is okay but you could consider Crunch over Psychic. Put leftovers or Lum over focus band.

    Altaria @ Leftovers
    Bold
    -Flamethrower
    -Haze
    -Ice Beam
    -Rest
    HP: 340 (196)
    Attack: 158
    Defense: 269 (116)
    Speed: 196
    Sp. Attack: 200 (96)
    Sp. Defense: 271 (100)
    Altaria is not going to stop much in the OU metagame, that set looks fine however. You could consider Vaporeon as another solid hazer

    Ampharos @ Quick Claw
    Quiet
    -Fire Punch
    -Focus Punch
    -Hidden Power (Grass)
    -Thunderbolt
    HP: 355 (136)
    Attack: 222 (147)
    Defense: 185
    Speed: 146 (70)
    Sp. Attack: 334 (157)
    Sp. Defense: 216
    Quick Claw is not looked upon happily in Netbattle, and you could put Sub over HP grass, for predicting switches and the like, unless you are deathly afraid of Swampert.

    Blaziken @ Salac Berry
    Naive
    -Endure
    -Reversal
    -Rock Slide
    -Swords Dance
    HP: 302 (6)
    Attack: 339 (252)
    Defense: 176
    Speed: 284 (252)
    Sp. Attack: 256
    Sp. Defense: 158
    That set is fine, don't listen to Mullet, just watch out for Pokes that can have Status moves...Predict attacks that you're surely will leave you with 1hp. Metagross does this better, but blazieken can do it fine. The best reversaler in OU is Scizor, since it is unnafected by the ever present T-tar

    Alakazam (Synchronize) @ Salac Berry
    Timid
    -Fire Punch
    -Ice Punch
    -Psychic
    -Thunderpunch
    HP: 252 (4)
    Attack: 122
    Defense: 126
    Speed: 372 (252)
    Sp. Attack: 369 (252)
    Sp. Defense: 206
    Max speed Zam outspeeds alot already, so you can try either Petaya or Lum berry. Leftovers won't do much considering that Zam won't stay out that long to take hits. Calm Mind could work, but I prefer using Trick-zam, when you use trick while you have Choice Band as an item

    Aggron (Sturdy) @ Leftovers
    Brave
    -Fire Blast
    -Focus Punch
    -Hidden Power (Rock)
    -Substitute
    HP: 344 (252)
    Attack: 325 (162)
    Defense: 395
    Speed: 121
    Sp. Attack: 180 (96)
    Sp. Defense: 155
    Fire Blast can work I guess, and if you don't like the accuracy of Rock Slide HP rock is okay. Skarmory and Forretress are better choices over this, as they have no big Physical weaknesses and can take loads of hits.

    Not a bad team, but it looks frail. Oh yeah, while in Team Builder you can go to File--->Then Export to team instead of typing all of this. :D
     
    Giga said:
    ***----Buncha Helpful Criticism---***

    Not a bad team, but it looks frail. Oh yeah, while in Team Builder you can go to File--->Then Export to team instead of typing all of this. :D

    Thanks so much! I'm going to work hard to make it better! :D
     
    How rude.

    Giga said:
    Blaziken @ Salac Berry
    Naive
    -Endure
    -Reversal
    -Rock Slide
    -Swords Dance
    HP: 302 (6)
    Attack: 339 (252)
    Defense: 176
    Speed: 284 (252)
    Sp. Attack: 256
    Sp. Defense: 158
    That set is fine, don't listen to Mullet, just watch out for Pokes that can have Status moves...Predict attacks that you're surely will leave you with 1hp. Metagross does this better, but blazieken can do it fine. The best reversaler in OU is Scizor, since it is unnafected by the ever present T-tar

    Just full of love arn't you, and Sub does work better than Endure, you won't have the time to SD up, and EQ seems to work better than RS, for me.

    Alakazam (Synchronize) @ Salac Berry
    Timid
    -Fire Punch
    -Ice Punch
    -Psychic
    -Thunderpunch
    HP: 252 (4)
    Attack: 122
    Defense: 126
    Speed: 372 (252)
    Sp. Attack: 369 (252)
    Sp. Defense: 206
    Max speed Zam outspeeds alot already, so you can try either Petaya or Lum berry. Leftovers won't do much considering that Zam won't stay out that long to take hits. Calm Mind could work, but I prefer using Trick-zam, when you use trick while you have Choice Band as an item

    Zam can acually use Lefties, but like I said you can use Petaya Berry. Trick Zam is evil.

    Not a bad team, but it looks frail. Oh yeah, while in Team Builder you can go to File--->Then Export to team instead of typing all of this. :D

    By the way just so you know, it's called Export to Text (uber nitpicky today).

    Your not the only one who knows what thier doing, my sets can work, I was just giving him more options. You don't just shoot someone down, look at the big picture, my sets can work.
    :D
     
    Hey now, I didn't shoot you down, I was posting my suggestions also. Substitute wouldn't work as well because Blaziken get's outspeeded by 50+ other Pokemon with it's base speed of 80. :)
     
    Shuko said:
    Glalie @ Focus Band
    Rash
    -Explosion
    -Ice Beam
    -Spikes
    -Substitute
    HP: 302 (6)
    Attack: 196
    Defense: 196
    Speed: 259 (252)
    Sp. Attack: 284 (252)
    Sp. Defense: 176
    I've never used a Glalie before, though the moveset seems ok. Maybe replace Sub with Crunch.

    Altaria @ Leftovers
    Bold
    -Flamethrower
    -Haze
    -Ice Beam
    -Rest
    HP: 340 (196)
    Attack: 158
    Defense: 269 (116)
    Speed: 196
    Sp. Attack: 200 (96)
    Sp. Defense: 271 (100)
    This seems ok, too. Maybe give it Dragon Claw instead of Ice Beam to get STAB.

    Ampharos @ Quick Claw
    Quiet
    -Fire Punch
    -Focus Punch
    -Hidden Power (Grass)
    -Thunderbolt
    HP: 355 (136)
    Attack: 222 (147)
    Defense: 185
    Speed: 146 (70)
    Sp. Attack: 334 (157)
    Sp. Defense: 216
    Replace either HP grass or Fire Punch with Sub and give it Lefties/Petaya instead of Quick Claw.

    Blaziken @ Salac Berry
    Naive It's better with Adamant nature if you want to use this moveset.
    -Endure
    -Reversal
    -Rock Slide
    -Swords Dance
    HP: 302 (6)
    Attack: 339 (252)
    Defense: 176
    Speed: 284 (252)
    Sp. Attack: 256
    Sp. Defense: 158
    Seems standard, though you should replace Endure with Sub, cause Salac activates at 25% and you'll get there with 3 subs eventually. Substitute also has an advantage, that your pokemon won't have any status changes while Sub is in effect. Blaziken has enough speed already, so you should have put more EVs into def and sp.def. Giving it a high sp.attack wasn't needed cause it doesn't have any special attack.


    Alakazam (Synchronize) @ Salac Berry/Petaya berry
    Timid
    -Fire Punch
    -Ice Punch
    -Psychic
    -Thunderpunch
    HP: 252 (4)
    Attack: 122
    Defense: 126
    Speed: 372 (252)
    Sp. Attack: 369 (252)
    Sp. Defense: 206
    Maybe it's not that bad to have all elemental punches on him, though I like the following moveset better: Psychic, Reflect, Light Screen/Ice Punch and Thunderpunch.

    Aggron (Sturdy) @ Leftovers
    Brave
    -Fire Blast
    -Focus Punch
    -Hidden Power (Rock)
    -Substitute
    HP: 344 (252)
    Attack: 325 (162)
    Defense: 395
    Speed: 121
    Sp. Attack: 180 (96)
    Sp. Defense: 155
    It might work, but remember that Aggron is 4x weak not only to fighting type attacks, but to ground types, too.
    Your team is ok, but as it was said before, you'll need a water-type pokemon, too to cover some weaknesses. Zam, Blaziken, Ampharos and Aggron can be taken out by a strong EQ so watch out. Well, good luck.
     
    torkoal_7 said:
    Your team is ok, but as it was said before, you'll need a water-type pokemon, too to cover some weaknesses. Zam, Blaziken, Ampharos and Aggron can be taken out by a strong EQ so watch out. Well, good luck.

    ~_~ Hrm... I'm thinking of replacing Aggron with Ludiculo... Any thoughts on that?

    I didn't give Blaziken any EVs for special attack. :P That was just his base stats. :P And I agree that sub is a better choice than endure. I've found that out the hard way. But just the same, I think that, to use it effectively, I'll need to have all the speed I can get. And I don't like the idea of splitting its EV's into more than two main branches. ~_~ Speed and Attack seemed pretty elementary to me... how much do you think I should devote to the defenses?
     
    Shuko said:
    ~_~ Hrm... I'm thinking of replacing Aggron with Ludiculo... Any thoughts on that?

    Well, Ludicolo only has 3 physical weakness and it's a much better choice than Aggron. I can't help you with stats... maybe try to give it a high defense stat to lower those weaknesses. Maybe use one of these for a moveset:
    Ludicolo@Lefties
    Leech Seed
    Surf
    Toxic
    Ice Beam

    or

    Ludicolo@Lefties (with Rain Dish)
    Rain Dance
    Substitute
    Leech Seed
    Surf

    or

    Ludicolo@Lefties
    Surf
    Ice Beam
    Giga Drain/Hp Grass
    Sub(if you choose Giga Drain)/Thunderpunch(covers the flying weakness)/Fire Punch(covers the bug weakness)

    Giving Ludicolo physical moves along with Swords Dance won't work because 70 base attack power isn't enough to do a good damage. I suggest to try the annoyer/tank/sp.sweeper Ludicolo instead. The physical sweeper moveset won't work.

    Shuko said:
    I didn't give Blaziken any EVs for special attack. :P That was just his base stats. :P

    Oh, ok. I get it now. :P

    Shuko said:
    How much do you think I should devote to the defenses?

    I don't know, but a quick Swellow or other fast OUs might OHKO it with a high physical damage making attack. If they send out Water types you should switch out. Ground types can cause a lot of pain for your team as I said before. What you must be beware mainly is Ground and Flying types so maybe give it a higher defense than sp.def, though if Salac activates, it'll sweep.
    Well, good luck with Netbattling. Hope my suggestions will help you.
     
    well, i like sub on my heracross and endure on my charizard. sub helps you avoid status and gives you a turn to sword dance up, that's why i like. endure is more for surprise(surviving a hit), and with salac can turn the game around. either works with blaziken, it all depends on what you want. endure is tricky cuz it takes some prediction to avoid status. sub w/o sword dance isn't very good though. i mean sure you can still avoid status, but i like to take the extra turn to sword dance up. i lean towards endure with blaziken because with sub+sword dance that only leaves 2 more slots for attacks which is a waste for his wonderful stats.

    ludicolo is a great pokemon. He has good sp.def so he can be a good special tank. with swift swim he can also be used as a special sweepert(even though i rather use him as a tank). the best thing about ludicolo is that he doesn't have any weakness to any special attack.

    ludicolo@lefties[calm]
    -swift swim
    evs: 252hp, 252sp.def, 6def
    -leech seed
    -synthesis
    -ice beam
    -thunderbolt/surf <--can't remeber if it had tbolt. tpunch if it doesn't learn it.

    i like it as a special tank. i don't put ev's in defense cuz his defense is quite pathetic. just avoid physical attacks. i had it on my grass team and it worked well unless it runs into CB sweeperts with hp flying :P

    also try this kazam:
    alakazam@lum[timid]
    -synchronize
    evs: 252sp.att, 252speed, 6hp
    -encore
    -calm mind
    -tbolt/psychic
    -icebeam/psychic

    encore a pokemon who's trying to curse/sword dance up, this forces a switch during which you can calm mind up. lum berry also gives you a turn to calm mind up against pokemon that likes to use status. after calm mind, sweep away.
     
    Giga said:
    Hey now, I didn't shoot you down, I was posting my suggestions also. Substitute wouldn't work as well because Blaziken get's outspeeded by 50+ other Pokemon with it's base speed of 80. :)

    That's why you can make it faster, Jolly Nature, with no Sp. attacks, and 252 Speed EVs. Yes you did shoot me down. Sub does work at getting his HP down faster, so you can Reversal, hence the name Subrevver, which seems to be the prefered Blaziken.

    No, Ludicolo can't learn T-bolt

    Try this one:

    Ludicolo@Lefties [Swift Swim]
    EVs:252 HP, 252 Def (it has more def weaknesses), 6 Sp. def/6 Sp. attack
    Nature:Bold/Modest
    Rain Dance
    Leech Seed
    Ice Beam/Surf
    Giga Drain

    I like this set, if it looses to much HP just Drain it, and for other Grass types you can't Seed, and Giga Drain doesn't damage much, you can just Ice Beam them.
    :D
     
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    Blaziken says high to the ever OU Salamence with HP fly and Aerodactyl.
     
    Glalie (M) @ Leftovers
    Trait: Inner Focus
    EVs: 76 HP / 216 Att / 16 Sp / 200 SAtk
    Mild Nature (+SAtk, - Def)
    -Spikes
    -Explosion
    -Ice Beam
    -Crunch/Toxic/Light Screen

    Just set up Spikes and Explode when their spinner is gone. Glalie sucks :/

    Altaria (M) @ Leftovers
    Trait: Natural Cure
    EVs: 128 HP / 136 Def / 138 SAtk / 108 SDef
    Calm Nature (+SDef, -Atk)
    - Fire Blast
    - Haze
    - Dragon Claw
    - Rest

    Abuse Natural Cure and Rest. Nothing resists Dragon Claw and Fire Blast.

    Ampharos (M) @ Leftovers
    Trait: Static
    EVs: 188 HP / 136 Atk / 186 SAtk
    Quiet Nature (+SAtk, -Spd)
    - Focus Punch
    - Hidden Power [Ice]
    - Thunder Wave
    - Thunderbolt

    A basic SkarmBliss Counter. Focus Punch Blissey on the switch and Thunderbolt for Skarm. again, Ice/Electric covers everything except Magneton/Lanturn, which Focus Punch eats up.

    Blaziken (M) @ Leftovers
    Trait: Blaze
    EVs: 76 HP / 172 Atk / 176 Spd / 84 SAtk
    Lonely Nature (+Atk, -Def)
    - Fire Blast
    - Rock Slide
    - Sky Uppercut
    - Swords Dance

    Nothing really to say, Swords Dance on the switch and sweep.

    Alakazam (M) @ Choice Band
    Trait: Synchronize
    EVs: 116 HP / 216 Spd / 176 SAtk
    Timid Nature (+Spd, -Atk)
    - Calm Mind
    - Fire Punch
    - Trick
    - Psychic

    Trick Blissey or something and Calm Mind up.

    Ludicolo (M) @ Leftovers
    Trait: Swift Swim
    EVs: 204 HP / 88 Spd / 56 SAtk / 160 SDef
    Calm Nature (+SDef, -Atk)
    - Rain Dance
    - Leech Seed
    - Seismic Toss
    - Hydro Pump


    Tyraniboah eats up half of this team.
     
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