Simon's Illegal Pokemon Team

[Simon]

1. Everything has 255 EVs in all 6 stats.
2. Everything has 31 IVs in all 6 stats unless Hidden Power is used.
3. Some movesets are illegal.
4. All of these Pokemon were created using the Pokeomn Calculator and Maker.

Umbreon/Iron Duke@Leftovers {+Sp. Def/-Atk}
Wish
Mean Look
Baton Pass
Cosmic Power

My starter. Trap the opponents starter and hope their starter doesn't put me to sleep, freeze me, or use OHKO. BP a Wish and defenses. Giving it to Blissey, Weezing, or Suicune would probably be murder.

Blissey/Torema@Leftovers {+Sp. Def/-Atk}
Toxic
Seismic Toss
Heal Bell
Softboiled

The usual. Toxic or T-Wave?

Weezing@Leftovers {+Def/-Sp. Atk}
Sludge Bomb
Will-o-Wisp
Protect
Double Team

Eh...I need a nickname for this.

Aerodactyl/Valefor@Leftovers {+Speed/-Sp. Atk}
Rock Slide
Earthquake
Aerial Ace
Double-Edge

This thing is legal except for the EVs. Can't think of any good illegal movesets for this. Too used to it on NB.

Latios/Bahamut@Soul Dew {+Sp. Atk/-Atk}
Calm Mind
Psychic
Dragon Claw
Recover

No explaination needed. Even Blissey dies to this.

Suicune/Vegnagun@Leftovers {+Sp. Atk/-Atk}
Rest
Calm Mind
Surf
Ice Beam

My favorite. Blissey dies to it as well. But I don't even have to worry about Blissey since my friends assume cute Pokemon to be weak. They just say I'm lucky when Blissey pwns them... Is there a move that raises {Sp. Atk} by two stages? Umbreon already gives this thing 6 stages to both defenses so Calm Mind is a waste.

 

[Frostweaver]

Rather pointless as infinite illegal moveset is allowed... oh well.


Umbreon- rest is much better than wish, because of toxic that can mess the moveset over. Rather useless imho for a cheated team...

Blissey- plus defense instead as the disappearance of EVs mean it's too godly already. I'll personally use counter and night shade

Aerodactyl- drill peck over aerial ace, dragon dance over double edge

Latios- Tail Glow over calm mind, speed+ instead of sp.atk+, and another special attack over recover

Suicune- still rather weak for a cheated set


You're much better off going massive sweeping than tanking really... dragon dance, tail glow and all those moves at your disposal. Why not use them?

 

[Demonion]

haha frostie :) you even managed to improve his cheated team :p, i myself am not going to rate that team since it is illegal ;)

 

[Simon]

Why not use them?

Because I never thought of them. Plus I didn't want to make it TOO obvious to my friends that my entire team is rigged.

Umbreon- My friends don't use Toxic. They only reason I'm ever poisoned is if it's the effect of an attack like Sludge Bomb.

Aerodactly- Hmmm...I'll see how Dragon Dance works. Not too sure about it since my friends would probably rip Aero apart while I used it.

Suicune- Well what else can I do with this thing?

 

[Frostweaver]

I skipped Weezing!? Well for that thing, leech seed over double team for sure... recover over protect (who needs protect+leftovers when you got recover?). Ingrain works too over recover if it's going to be getting cosmic power, as ingrain gives pseudohazing immunity.

Suicune (doesn't look like Vegnagun anyway as I think Venomoth is closest in terms of Pokemon replica... then again same for a lot of your choices XD) doesn't have to use surf and ice beam now, does it... water spout and crunch.

 

[Demonion]

Im just bored so i'm going to rate it :)

Umbreon
- Ingrain
- Recover
- Refresh
- Cosmic Power

Blissey
- Heal Bell
- Softboiled
- Nightshade
- Seismic Toss

Weezing
- Sludgebomb
- Haze
- Will-O-Wisp
- Recover

Aerodactyl
- Dragon Dance
- Rock Slide
- Aeroblast
- Earthquake

Latios
- Tail Glow
- Dragon Claw
- Psychic
- Recover

Suicune
- Water Spout
- Rest
- Crunch
- Calm Mind

Bleeh :p

 

[Mana Lugia]

the problem with sharking up EVs is that you just completely defied the point of strategizing in RSFRLG.

In GSC, you can maximize your stats to take advantage of pokemon with dual sweeping possibilities, such as say Mewtwo for example. In RS, they introduced EVs precisely to curtail these advantages that some pokemon have (and, at the same time, completely sexed up pokemon like Mew and Kingdra)

If you're going to Maximize the EVs in every single category, there's no conceivable way for a legal team to even come close to matching that ability, because unlike predicting for either a special sweeper in Blaziken or a physical one, or a weakened version of both, you'd get a superpowered version of both, with decent defenses to boot.

 

[Frostweaver]

if he says no sharked move, then I would have thought that he wants to play "GSC" with "new additions." However now I have no idea... just that someone is bored ^^;

 

[Mana Lugia]

See, there's no problem with sharking EVs if the only ppl you battle are others who do the same as you, which essentially leads to both sides having the stronger pokemon, and thus evening out the playing field. However, as with the GSC problem, max stats on both sides can and most likely WILL result in a stallfest of a metagame, while even though the new metagame in FRLG is similar, I don't think it comes quite close as to the Toxispikes of GSC...

Now sharking moves, there's a different matter.

(all above were my opinions ONLY)

 

[Simon]

I'm thinking of putting a Dragonite on my team even though it's constantly raped by Ice Beam. Can't think of a moveset though. Got ideas for an attack stat based moveset?

Same rules as my entire team for teh illegalness.

 

[Mana Lugia]

Dragonite:
Adamant? Jolly? No idea
EVs: Distribute for attack, rest in HP/Speed/spA
Sub
Focus Punch
Thunderbolt/Fthrower
HP Flying (I think)

it's the subpuncher set...

 

[Frostweaver]

No need for EVs as it's sharkable.

Dragonite- [speed + / ? -] @ lum berry
-dragon dance
-cross chop
-aeroblast
-thunderbolt/sacred fire/overheat

Meh... I never succeeded in using a Dragonite, and always succeeded in taking one down (Pinsir > Draggy, or at least it's true for the stupid ones who fall for counter)