Special Walls and all that stuff

[Anti]

Me again. I am rebuilding my team and am in desparate need of a strong special wall that doesn't have 10 weaknesses and/or mega low HP. BTW, I DON'T want blissey! I am trying not to make a super OU team, just a team of pokemon you don't see every single second. So there ya' go, any good special walls you guys can think of?

 

[aragornbird]

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Underrated special walls include

Calm Milotic
Calm Empoleon
Careful/Sassy Registeel
Careful/Sassy Bronzong
Careful Snorlax

If sandstorm is running, Careful Cradily makes a great special wall.

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[Eos Aduro]

Another one I just checked out was Probopass seems pretty good, plus with Lock-On/Zap Cannon, he packs a punch too, even if his attack and special attack stats arent soaring.

 

[aragornbird]

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Lock-On + Zap Cannon combo has always sucked.

Probopass is another one of those Pokemon that can make a decent special wall if Sandstorm is running.

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[Anti]

Dang! I keep forgeting to mention I only have emerald and some of the other 3rd gen. games. I guess that narrows it down to milotic, Snorlax, and Registeel. Any others? I already have steelix so that would rule out registeel. I think I want to use cradily. Any good movesets cuz I suck with cradily (then again that was before I discovered there are more than just attack moves). Please help.

EDIT: Forgot my manners. Thanks for the help guys!

 

[Azonic]

4th gen is where all the great walls are.

Snorlax.

 

[Anti]

Ugh, I hate that thing. I'll use it if I must, but can Cradily work?

 

[Shiraishi]

Para-flinching togekiss? It makes a real nice sweeper too ;/

 

[Anti]

Haven't you read any of the above posts? This is for 3rd gen! Anyways, I came up with a cradily moveset. How's this:

Cradily@Leftovers
Calm Nature
EVs: I suck with EV spreads
~Amnesia
~HP Grass
~Recover/Ingrain
~Substitute

This a good special wall MS? Help is greatly appriciated. Thanks everyone.

 

[Ichida]

The problem with Probopass is that it has two 4x weaknesses. Even with its high defense, a STABbed Close Combat or Earthquake from a good sweeper is probably going to OHKO it.

 

[Anti]

Urgh...This is 3rd gen...I'm so tired of saying that...Is the Cradily moveset good? I need help with the EVs and probably the moveset too. Toxic could replace substitute i think. Would that work?

 

[sanjay120]

Um, Regice?

Yeah. Regice.

 

[genus]

Milotic and Vaporeon.

Vaporeon schools.

Modest
252 hp/120 special attack/136 special defense
Item:Leftovers
Surf/Toxic/Wish/Acid Armor

It could learn acid armor last gen, right? If not, go for Ice Beam instead.

 

[Faceless*]

Another one I just checked out was Probopass seems pretty good, plus with Lock-On/Zap Cannon, he packs a punch too, even if his attack and special attack stats arent soaring.

Yeah, but sadly, Probopass has a 4x weakness to Ground, and Fighting, and most sweepers carry around an Earthquake

 

[Azonic]

Thats why there's Magnet Rise...

 

[Faceless*]

Thats why there's Magnet Rise...

Then theres the fighting attacks taht sweepers carry around.... :P

 

[Azonic]

Probopass can learn Psychic starting from today. :(

Grrr...

Just swap pokemon out... :P

 

[Faceless*]

Probopass can learn Psychic starting from today. :(

Grrr...

Just swap pokemon out... :P

Sweepers have higher speed than Probopass starting from today :(

 

[Azonic]

When pigs fly...

Probopass just switches out.

 

[Smarties-chan]

Okay, people, back on topic. This is not a discussion about Probopass or even the same generation Probopass is in. Besides, Probopass is a special wall, not a physical wall so it's only natural that physical sweepers will be able to take it down.

And Cradily with Amnesia can make a decent special wall, but I'd really suggest Calmcune for special walling and general tanking:

Suicune @ Leftovers
Ability: Pressure
Bold Nature
EVs: 252 HP, 212 Defense, 44 Sp.Attack

- Surf/Roar
- Ice Beam/Roar
- Rest
- Calm Mind