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Harmonious Fusion

Harmonious Fusion

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    I posted a near-copy of this thread on another forum, but it's pretty inactive over there and I got few replies. My friends and I are planning to do a lot of battling soon, and I want a number of teams to rotate around in order to keep people on their toes. For the most part, our group does not particularly care about things like EVs and IVs, and we only pay attention to tiers in the sense that we limit ubers to a maximum of one per team. With a small handful of exceptions, I want to only use Pokemon that I've had on my various in-game teams, so please don't suggest alternate Pokemon. I'm just looking for moveset, item, and team arrangement advice. I would particularly like to build teams that revolve around each of my megas, especially Gardevoir and Lucario.

    Team #1
    Cinccino, Jolteon, Jellicent, Charizard, Aegislash, Krookodile

    Detailed Pokemon Information
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    Jellicent needs Recover to function defensively:
    -Scald/Shadow Ball
    -Will-o-Wisp
    -Recover
    -Taunt
    Nature: Bold
    EVs: 248 HP/172 Def/88 Spe
    Item: Leftovers
    Ability: Water Absorb/Cursed Body

    or
    -Scald
    -Shadow Ball/Ice Beam
    -Will-o-Wisp
    -Recover
    Nature: Calm
    EVs: 248 HP/172 SDef/88 Spe
    Item: Leftovers
    Ability: Water Absorb

    Charizard X is relatively versatile, so it can run offensive Dragon Dance, bulky Dragon Dance or even a defensive set:
    -Dragon Dance
    -Flare Blitz/Fire Punch
    -Dragon Claw/Outrage
    -Earthquake/Roost
    Nature: Adamant/Jolly
    EVs: 252 Atk/4 Def/252 Spe
    Item: Charizardite X
    Ability: Blaze

    or
    -Dragon Dance
    -Dragon Claw
    -Fire Punch/Earthquake
    -Roost
    Nature: Adamant
    EVs: 144 HP/244 Atk/120 Spe
    Item: Charizardite X
    Ability: Blaze

    or
    -Fire Punch/Earthquake
    -Dragon Claw
    -Will-o-Wisp
    -Roost
    Nature: Careful
    EVs: 248 HP/148 SDef/112 Spe
    Item: Charizardite X
    Ability: Blaze

    Jolteon is too frail to make use of status moves and it's already fast enough, meaning it doesn't have to rely on Thunder Wave:
    -Thunderbolt
    -Volt Switch
    -Hidden Power (Ice/Grass/Fire)
    -Shadow Ball/Signal Beam
    Nature: Timid
    EVs: 4 Def/252 SAtk/252 Spe
    Item: Life Orb/Choice Specs
    Ability: Volt Absorb

    While Knock Off is a B2/W2 tutor move for Krookodile, it's a move that's seen everywhere due to the buff it gained (not just in terms of power, but also powering up further if the opponent has a non-Mega Stone item). Embargo isn't that useful, tbh.

    Aegislash is seen as a mixed attacker, though Swords Dance + 3 attacks is viable in its own right. That's because physical Aegislash has a tendency to get crippled by burn. There are better coverage moves for Aegislash than Aerial Ace; Aerial Ace only hits Breloom and Chesnaught, but not much else:
    -Shadow Ball
    -Shadow Sneak/Sacred Sword
    -Iron Head/Pursuit/Sacred Sword
    -King's Shield
    Nature: Quiet
    EVs: 244 HP/12 Def/252 SAtk
    Item: Leftovers

    or
    -Substitute
    -Toxic
    -King's Shield
    -Shadow Ball
    Nature: Modest
    EVs: 244 HP/12 Def/252 SAtk
    Item: Leftovers

    or
    -Shadow Ball
    -Shadow Sneak
    -Flash Cannon/Sacred Sword
    -Pursuit/Sacred Sword
    Nature: Hasty/Naive
    EVs: 4 Atk/252 SAtk/252 Spe
    Item: Life Orb/Spooky Plate/Spell Tag

    or
    -Swords Dance
    -Shadow Sneak
    -Shadow Claw/Iron Head
    -Sacred Sword/Head Smash
    Nature: Adamant
    EVs: 252 Atk/4 SDef/252 Spe
    Item: Life Orb

    Now for the other team members:

    I hope you realize that Heliolisk's move pool is rather wide. Its current moveset isn't doing you any favors, as Bulldoze runs off of its low Attack, while Parabolic Charge is weak:
    -Thunderbolt
    -Volt Switch
    -Surf/Grass Knot
    -Focus Blast/Dark Pulse/Hidden Power (Ground/Fire)
    Nature: Timid
    EVs: 4 HP/252 SAtk/252 Spe
    Item: Life Orb/Choice Specs/Expert Belt
    Ability: Dry Skin

    Vivillon isn't worth bothering, tbh. While accurate Hurricanes thanks to Compound Eyes gives it a niche, it's not that strong and fast; it's also ridiculously frail. Volcarona is the better Quiver Dancer in all cases, due to having more bulk, Speed and power right off the bat:
    -Quiver Dance
    -Bug Buzz
    -Fiery Dance
    -Roost
    Nature: Bold
    EVs: 248 HP/192 Def/68 Spe
    Item: Leftovers/Sitrus Berry
    Ability: Flame Body

    I'd squeeze in Earthquake in somewhere on Goodra, as having the ability to hit Heatran harder is appreciated. Consider Fire Blast as well for the harder hit on Ferrothorn and Scizor. Nature should be Quiet or Sassy with the EV spread of 248 HP/252 SAtk/8 SDef; the ability should be Gooey or Sap Sipper.

    Much better Megasaur sets down here. It has better utility options in Leech Seed and Sleep Powder. It also has a recovery STAB in Giga Drain:
    -Giga Drain
    -Sludge Bomb
    -Earthquake/Sleep Powder
    -Synthesis
    Nature: Relaxed/Bold
    EVs: 252 HP/88 Def/168 SDef or 252 HP/252 Def/4 SDef
    Item: Venusaurite

    or
    -Giga Drain/Leech Seed
    -Sludge Bomb
    -Hidden Power (Fire)
    -Synthesis
    Nature: Modest
    EVs: 252 HP/252 SAtk/4 SDef
    Item: Venusaurite

    Greninja should always use Protean as its ability; this is the very ability that makes it actually viable. Quick Attack is useless outside of Mega Pinsir and Diggersby:
    -Hydro Pump/Surf
    -Ice Beam
    -Extrasensory
    -Dark Pulse/Hidden Power (Fire/Grass)/Grass Knot/Spikes
    Nature: Timid
    EVs: 252 SAtk/4 SDef/252 Spe
    Item: Life Orb/Expert Belt/Focus Sash
    Ability: Protean

    The only good Mega Gardevoir sets use Hyper Voice, which is a B2/W2 tutor move. You'll need Poke Bank for this. Take note that Pixilate only affects Normal moves, not moves that are already Fairy type:
    -Psyshock
    -Hyper Voice
    -Focus Blast
    -Shadow Ball/Will-o-Wisp
    Nature: Timid
    EVs: 24 Def/232 SAtk/252 Spe
    Item: Gardevoirite
    Ability: Trace

    or
    -Calm Mind
    -Psyshock
    -Hyper Voice
    -Shadow Ball/Taunt
    Nature: Timid
    EVs: 24 Def/232 SAtk/252 Spe
    Item: Gardevoirite
    Ability: Trace

    If you can't get a Hyper Voice Gardevoir from B2/W2, you'll have to make do with regular Gardevoir:
    -Psyshock
    -Moonblast
    -Focus Blast
    -Healing Wish/Trick
    Nature: Timid
    EVs: 252 SAtk/4 SDef/252 Spe
    Item: Choice Scarf
    Ability: Trace

    Play Rough > Psycho Cut on Mega Absol. Not only does it hit Fighting Pokemon, it also hits Dragons:
    -Sucker Punch
    -Pursuit/Night Slash/Knock Off
    -Fire Blast
    -Play Rough/Superpower
    Nature: Naive
    EVs: 252 Atk/4 SAtk/252 Spe
    Item: Absolite
    Ability: Super Luck/Justified

    or
    -Swords Dance
    -Sucker Punch
    -Night Slash/Knock Off
    -Play Rough/Baton Pass
    Nature: Jolly
    EVs: 4 HP/252 Atk/252 Spe
    Item: Absolite
    Ability: Super Luck

    Give Chandelure Choice Specs or Choice Scarf. It needs the power or Speed, rather than the boost from Meadow Plate. Use 252 SAtk/4 SDef/252 Spe as the EV spread, with Modest/Timid and Flash Fire or Infiltrator as the ability.

    Heat Rotom has better things to do than confusing opponents with Confuse Ray. Hex won't power up if the opponent is confused or infatuated:
    -Volt Switch
    -Overheat
    -Will-o-Wisp
    -Pain Split/Rest
    Nature: Bold
    EVs: 252 HP/252 Def/4 SDef
    Item: Leftovers/Chesto Berry

    I wouldn't really bother with Delphox and Pyroar, tbh. They're severely outclassed by stronger, faster Fire Pokemon, like the Charizards and Blaziken. Speaking of Blaziken, Slash and Brave Bird don't give it noteworthy coverage. It also has stronger STABs in Flare Blitz and High Jump Kick:
    -Flare Blitz
    -High Jump Kick/Low Kick
    -Knock Off/Stone Edge/Shadow Claw/Protect
    -Swords Dance/Protect
    Nature: Adamant/Jolly
    EVs: 4 HP/252 Atk/252 Spe
    Item: Blazikenite/Life Orb
    Ability: Speed Boost

    Lucario should stick to physically-based or specially-based sets only:
    -Swords Dance
    -Close Combat
    -Extreme Speed
    -Iron Tail/Crunch/Earthquake/Ice Punch
    Nature: Adamant/Jolly
    EVs: 252 Atk/4 Def/252 Spe
    Item: Lucarionite/Life Orb

    or
    -Nasty Plot
    -Aura Sphere
    -Flash Cannon
    -Shadow Ball/Dark Pulse/Vacuum Wave
    Nature: Timid
    EVs: 4 Def/252 SAtk/252 Spe
    Item: Lucarionite
    Ability: Inner Focus/Steadfast

    I wouldn't bother with Glaceon either. Pure Ice is a terrible defensive typing and the other Eeveelutions apart from Flareon outperform it.

    Golduck isn't worth it either; it's outclassed by faster and/or stronger Water Pokemon like Greninja, Gyarados and even Milotic and Crawdaunt.

    Emolga is outclassed as well, but by other Electric Pokemon like the Rotom appliances, Thundurus, Zapdos and even Mega Manectric.

    Mega Aggron is best played defensively to better take advantage of Filter:
    -Stealth Rock
    -Heavy Slam/Iron Head
    -Thunder Wave/Ice Punch
    -Earthquake/Rock Slide
    Nature: Relaxed
    EVs: 252 HP/16 Def/240 SDef
    Item: Aggronite
    Ability: Sturdy

    or
    -Rest
    -Sleep Talk
    -Heavy Slam/Iron Head
    -Earthquake/Ice Punch
    Nature: Relaxed
    EVs: 252 HP/16 Def/240 SDef
    Item: Aggronite
    Ability: Sturdy

    Headbutt doesn't let Breloom achieve anything notable. Spore is the sole reason why it's used, even if Grass Pokemon are now immune to it:
    -Bullet Seed
    -Mach Punch
    -Rock Tomb
    -Spore
    Nature: Adamant/Jolly
    EVs: 4 HP/252 Atk/252 Spe
    Item: Life Orb/Focus Sash
    Ability: Technician

    Linoone is terrible. It's rather weak and it's outclassed by other Normal Pokemon, like Diggersby and Exploud.

    Focus Blast > Flash Cannon on Reuniclus. EV spread of 192 HP/64 Def/252 SAtk is preferred. Life Orb is the best item for it. Quick Claw is too luck-based to rely on.

    Don't use Giga Impact or moves like it ever. They make you a sitting duck the next turn.

    Whatever Florges can do, Sylveon can do it better:
    -Wish
    -Protect
    -Hyper Voice
    -Heal Bell/Calm Mind
    Nature: Bold
    EVs: 252 HP/244 Def/12 Spe
    Item: Leftovers
    Ability: Pixilate

    Meowstic is outclassed by other Psychic Pokemon like Alakazam because it doesn't pack enough power to be a threat.

    Will comment on more later.
     
    Harmonious Fusion said:
    I want to only use Pokemon that I've had on my various in-game teams, so please don't suggest alternate Pokemon.
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    I appreciate the moveset advice, but please read a bit more thoroughly next time? I want to use the exact Pokemon, too, not just members of the same species, so abilities and natures aren't up for debate.
     
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