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Team Questions

Nathaniel Essex

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    • Seen Jan 9, 2005
    i'm putting together my team of six, but having a tiny bit of trouble deciding on what to go.

    how's this for a non-uber team?

    Metagross
    Salamance
    Dragonite
    Blaziken
    Tyranitar
    Snorlax

    and how's this for a uberteam?

    MewTwo
    Rayquaza
    Kyogre
    Salamance
    Blaziken
    Tyranitar
     
    First off, post your moveset, your EVs etc. if you don't know what it means, read the Advanced Trainers Guide by frostweaver.
     
    This should be in the GB Statagies and Movesets fourm, someone needs to move this.
     
    revision.

    ok, try this.

    Metagross
    EVs - Attack/Special Attack
    ----
    Hyper Beam
    Meteor Mash
    Psychic
    Agility

    Salamance
    EVs - Attack/Special Attack
    ----
    Dragon Dance
    Dragon Claw
    Crunch
    Double-Edge

    Dragonite
    EVs - Special Defense/Attack
    ----
    Dragon Dance
    Thunderbolt
    Dragon Claw
    Hyper Beam
     
    Take off Hyper Beam, #1 and don't work on Metagross attack, He's Steel Psychic and his attack is not very high. as for Salmence, cmon, you can't leave him with no flying moves, and you should not have a Dragonite and a Salamence, take him out. also, what are the natures and items they are holding?
     
    DarkLink said:
    Take off Hyper Beam, #1 and don't work on Metagross attack, He's Steel Psychic and his attack is not very high. as for Salmence, cmon, you can't leave him with no flying moves, and you should not have a Dragonite and a Salamence, take him out. also, what are the natures and items they are holding?
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    Metegross has high attack. It's attack is so high, some people make it an all-out physical sweeper, even without Psychic. You may want a mixed sweeper, but I think I'll suggest a physical sweeper.

    For metegross, I'd say:

    Metegross
    EVs - Attack/HP
    Nature: Adamant (atk+, sp.a-)
    Earthquake
    Shadow Ball
    HP Fighting
    Light Screen
    --
    Salemence looks quite good, but try this:

    Salemence
    EVs: Attack/Speed OR Attack/Special Attack/Speed
    Earthquake
    Brick Break OR Dragon Claw
    Aerial Ace
    Dragon Dance
    --
    Well, for Dragonite, I'd suggest an all-out special sweeper :\ .

    Dragonite
    EVs: Special Attack/Speed

    Ice Beam
    Flamethrower
    Surf
    HP Dark
    ----
    Well, that's the best I can do. I don't have much experiance with this, but it seems OK to me :\ .
     
    revision 2.

    ok, let's try this. remember i LOVE dragon pokemon, i just think they are too brutal to not use.

    Salamance: EVs in Attack/Speed
    ----
    Earthquake
    Aerial Ace
    Dragon Claw
    Dragon Dance

    i figure he'd be a physical sweeper, looks good to me. seems pretty solid, don't think i'll need to change much.

    Metagross: EVs in Special Attack/HP
    ----
    Psychic
    Meteor Mash
    Shadow Ball
    Agility

    i like this because i can take out a lot of groups, and i have agility for that speed boost to sweep, i think it's great.

    Snorlax: EVs in HP/Defense
    ----
    Rest
    Substitute
    Double-Edge
    Shadow Ball

    all around tough tank, looks good on paper to me at least. can't wait to raise it in-game.

    MewTwo: EVs in Special Attack/Special Defense
    ----
    Psychic
    Shadow Ball
    Calm Mind
    Recover

    i know people hate the legendaries but i'm sorry, i go with what i think _looks_ cool. i think calm mind is just beyond perfect, it's probably my favorite ability.

    Blaziken: EVs in Attack/Special Attack/Speed
    ----
    Blaze Kick
    Sky Uppercut
    Aerial Ace
    Swords Dance

    blaziken is just brutal in the fact that it has a great type combination, i'm not sure how good this one is but it seems sweet. =)

    Tyranitar: EVs in Attack/Defense
    ----
    Crunch
    Earthquake
    Dragon Dance
    ???? (maybe Outrage?)

    i NEED a dark type to just destroy psychic types, and tyranitar just looks so menacing i love it. but i can't think of a fourth move, let alone a great moveset, any ideas?
     
    You might want to fix up Mewtwo. It is ment to be a Special Sweeper, so why shadow ball?

    Mewtwo
    EVs: Special Attack/Speed

    Psychic
    Ice Beam
    Calm Mind
    Flamethrower/HP Specal/Thunderbolt
    ----
    Blaziken looks good.
    ----
    Dragon Dance is a good move, so I guess you could make good use of it with your moveset:

    Tyranitar
    EVs: Attack/Specal Attack OR Attack/Speed
    Dragon Dance
    Earthquake
    Brick Break/Aerial Ace/HP Physical/Rock Slide
    Crunch OR Rock Slide

    But if you must have crunch, I guess that works too.
     
    Salamence- dragon claw is useless here... get rock slide there instead, or fire blast if rock slide isn't available to hit Skarmory (but rock slide is more useful.)

    Metagross- sp.atk? That's just pointless... ghost is physical, mind you. Metagross's psychic type is really rather pointless besides neutralizing fighting attack damage, and fighting Weezing (and only Weezing.) Ditching Psychic for earthquake is probably a much better choice. Be sure that your speed is 198 as well if you're using agility. This probably means sacrificing some EVs in other areas, but the sacrifice is well worth the trade.

    Snorlax- take off substitute for brick break if you want it to be a tank. Also, shift some def into attack.

    Mewtwo- calm mind sucks without the speed to help it sweep. Change all sp.def to speed, and be sure to get a speed boosting nature. Get calm mind/psychic/2 special attack. Recover if you want Mewtwo to be a special tanker, but if you're doing that, get boltbeam instead of psychic.

    Blaziken- blaze kick needs to be replaced by overheat... aerial ace is not too good of an attack due to the low power. But your call... earthquake and rock slide works as well.

    Tyranitar- if you're dragon dancing, you may want to shift def to speed. Remove crunch, and add on 2 physical attacks again. Oh, and Tyranitar isn't too good of an anti-psychic types anyway. Not to mention, there's hardly any psychic types out there but Alakazam and Exeggutor, and Eggy will decimate Tyranitar either way.
     
    thanks!

    alright, well my blaziken now will be:

    Overheat
    Sky Uppercut
    Swords Dance
    Rock Slide
    ----
    EVs in Attack/Special Attack/Speed

    and now my MewTwo is:

    Psychic
    Calm Mind
    Recover
    Thunderbolt
    ----
    EVs in Special Attack/Speed

    Tyranitar is now

    Earthquake
    Crunch
    Dragon Dance
    Brick Break
    ----
    EVs in Attack/Speed

    and finally Metagross

    Psychic
    Meteor Mash
    Agility
    Earthquake
    ----
    EVs in Attack/Speed

    anymore suggestions?
     
    Blaziken still doesn't need any sp.atk EV, because overheat is a one use only thing until switch anyway. Its base power is high enough as it is.

    Tyranitar can just drop crunch all together. It's useless... no one should use crunch but Houndoom >>; Not that crunch is a bad move, but it's just stuck on Pokemon who will suck using it besides Houndoom. Tyranitar's attack is much higher than sp.atk anyway, so stick with attack. Plus you got dragon dance to further strengthen your attack. Use rock slide instead of crunch, for STAB and physical power.
     
    Physical Mewtwo can work wonders if you play it right, it's slightly unexpected, after all...

    Mewtwo@Liechi/Salac/Lum Berry
    EV: 252 Att, 252 Speed, 6 Sp Def
    Nature: + Att, - Def
    Brick Break
    Shadow Ball
    Earthquake/Rock Slide/Psychic
    Ice Beam/Thunderbolt/Calm Mind/Earthquake

    Brick Break deals with Dark types, Shadow Ball for other Psychics and Ghosts, and then insert your choice of physical or special move - it's not like Mewtwo needs any EV or nature bonus to it's Special Attack, after all.

    Snorlax: Put some EV in Special Defence rather than Defence, and you may want to slip in some for Attack as well.

    Snorlax@Leftovers
    EV: 252 HP, 129 Att, 129 Sp Def
    Nature: + Att, - Speed
    Substitute
    Focus Punch
    Shadow Ball
    Rest

    Salamence: Drop Dragon Claw for Flamethrower, and Earthquake for Brick Break, otherwise fine. Adds a bit of Skarmbliss protection to your team

    Blaziken - Blaziken's type combination is actually pretty detrimental to itself, adding more weaknesses than strengths.

    Blaziken@Salac Berry
    EV: 252 Att, 252 Speed, 6 Sp Def
    Nature: + Speed, - Sp Att
    Endure
    Reversal
    Shadow Ball/HP Ghost/Rock Slide
    Overheat

    Can't remember if Blaziken can learn Shadow Ball, if not use HP Ghost or Rock Slide instead

    Tyranitar - you can do without Crunch, so leave it. Mixed sweeping with T-tar isn't so great.

    Tyranitar@Lum/Salac/Liechi Berry
    EV: 252 Att, 252 Speed, 6 Sp Def
    Nature: + Att/Speed, - Sp Att
    Dragon Dance
    Earthquake
    Rock Slide
    Brick Break/HP Physical

    Metagross: Really need to redistribute those EVs...

    Metagross@Leftovers
    EV: 129 HP, 129 Def, 252 Att
    Nature: + Def/Att, - Sp Def
    HP Steel
    Earthquake
    Shadow Ball
    Agility/Psychic

    Consider Psychic for anti-Weezing purposes.
     
    revision 3.

    gotcha, alright, let's try this.

    Metagross (EVs: 252 Attack/129 HP/129 Defense)
    Psychic
    Meteor Mash
    Earthquake
    Agility

    Snorlax (EVs: 252 HP/129 Defense/129 Sp. Defense)
    Rest
    Substitute
    Shadow Ball
    Double-Edge

    MewTwo (EVs: 252 Speed/252 Sp. Attack/6 Sp. Defense)
    Psychic
    Thunderbolt
    Recover
    Calm Mind

    Blaziken (EVs: 252 Attack/252 Speed/6 Sp. Attack)
    Overheat
    Sky Uppercut
    Swords Dance
    Rock Slide

    Salamance (EVs: 252 Attack/252 Speed/6 Defense)
    Dragon Dance
    Earthquake
    Brick Break
    Aerial Ace

    Tyranitar (EVs: 252 Speed/252 Attack/6 Defense)
    Dragon Dance
    Earthquake
    Rock Slide
    Crunch

    sounds good? i'm sorry i just like dark attack moves and i need to have a difference between salamance and tyranitar, even if it is just two moves.
     
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