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You know by now I would think he knows this team isn't good :0 Or I would hope so.

You're going to want to trash Palkia, no one is going to battle you with an uber unless you're playing in ubers (and this is obviously not an uber metagame team).

If you want to compete, I would also learn a bit more about the metagame so maybe you know a bit more about team building, that would help you a lot. Annoyers (with a few rare exceptions) are pretty much wastes of moveslots. Also, using stuff like Fly and Hyper Beam will only help in a losing effort.

First off, if you want to use Infernape, one of its better sets is:

Infernape @ Life Orb
Trait: Blaze
EVs: 24 Atk / 232 Spd / 252 SAtk
Naive Nature (+Spd, -SDef)
- Nasty Plot
- Grass Knot
- Close Combat
- Flamethrower

Mixed Infernape is a really tough cookie. It beats almost all bulky waters and counters to its physical set.

For Roserade, you're going to want a more offense oriented build for something with awesome special attack like that.

Roserade @ Choice Specs
Trait: Natural Cure
EVs: 4 HP / 252 Spd / 252 SAtk
Modest Nature (+SAtk, -Atk)
- Leaf Storm
- Hidden Power [Fire]
- Sludge Bomb / Energy Ball
- Shadow Ball

EVs probably need some help, but yeah. Specs Roserade's Leaf Storm hurts even more than a SpecsMence Draco Meteor.

Luxray honestly is really bad and doesn't even help this team anyways, so I'd scrap it along with Palkia. As for Bronzong, it can be used so much better.

Bronzong @ Leftovers
Trait: Levitate
Relaxed Nature (+Def, -Spd)
- Gyro Ball
- Earthquake
- Rest / Hypnosis
- Sleep Talk / Stealth Rock

Honestly don't remember my EVs for this, but whatever you do, don't use Smogon's. Bronzong can do a lot of different things, so you can pick and choose.

So yeah.
 
Anti-Pop said:
You know by now I would think he knows this team isn't good :0 Or I would hope so.

You're going to want to trash Palkia, no one is going to battle you with an uber unless you're playing in ubers (and this is obviously not an uber metagame team).

If you want to compete, I would also learn a bit more about the metagame so maybe you know a bit more about team building, that would help you a lot. Annoyers (with a few rare exceptions) are pretty much wastes of moveslots. Also, using stuff like Fly and Hyper Beam will only help in a losing effort.

First off, if you want to use Infernape, one of its better sets is:

Infernape @ Life Orb
Trait: Blaze
EVs: 24 Atk / 232 Spd / 252 SAtk
Naive Nature (+Spd, -SDef)
- Nasty Plot
- Grass Knot
- Close Combat
- Flamethrower

Mixed Infernape is a really tough cookie. It beats almost all bulky waters and counters to its physical set.

For Roserade, you're going to want a more offense oriented build for something with awesome special attack like that.

Roserade @ Choice Specs
Trait: Natural Cure
EVs: 4 HP / 252 Spd / 252 SAtk
Modest Nature (+SAtk, -Atk)
- Leaf Storm
- Hidden Power [Fire]
- Sludge Bomb / Energy Ball
- Shadow Ball

EVs probably need some help, but yeah. Specs Roserade's Leaf Storm hurts even more than a SpecsMence Draco Meteor.

Luxray honestly is really bad and doesn't even help this team anyways, so I'd scrap it along with Palkia. As for Bronzong, it can be used so much better.

Bronzong @ Leftovers
Trait: Levitate
Relaxed Nature (+Def, -Spd)
- Gyro Ball
- Earthquake
- Rest / Hypnosis
- Sleep Talk / Stealth Rock

Honestly don't remember my EVs for this, but whatever you do, don't use Smogon's. Bronzong can do a lot of different things, so you can pick and choose.

So yeah.
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I forgot about posting the most common movesets for them.Thank goodness you posted them.MixApe really is a force to be reckoned with though.It could just kill Blissey like it's HP is nothing!Everything else is said by Anti-Pop
 
Suggestions added... lol

I really want to keep Flash, that move helped me catch all the Legendaries with ease. Stun Spore did as well.

For Palkia, I need Ancient Power to kill all the bird Pokemon that may appear, and it might up all his stats as well. Palkia is powerful enough to survive long battles and I was thinking of teaching him Double Team. I will throw him away soon because of Wi-Fi. Stay tuned...

EV training, egg, and nature training will have to do later. I feel like taking some of my favorite Pokemon out of Ruby/Sapphire, Gold/Silver, and Red/Blue/Yellow. That'll be in another thread I suppose.


OK here's the first Pokemon I will place first in battle:

1st... Bronzong - I will have to hope a Pokemon isn't super effective against Bronzong. If not - I will use both Reflect and Light Screen, use a few Flashes, and immediately switch to something that can kill the opposing Pokemon. If my Bronzong is weak against it, then I use Explosion or switch him out (perfect for the strongest Pokemon on the trainer's team).
 
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You aren't understanding where we're coming from. WiFi battlers aren't like wild pokemon or CPU trainers.

Hitting things for supereffective damage isn't even that important. For example, Return has 102 base power. On Snorlax, it will have 153 base power due to STAB (Same Type Attack Bonus). There is also Brick Break, which has 75 base power. While it lands a supereffective hit on something like Regice, Return would still do more because even with a doubled base power with Brick Break, it would only be 150 base power compared to Return's 153 base power.

Therefore, using moves like Ancientpower to kill birds us not a good justification of the move's use, especially since STAB Dragon moves from Palkia would hit harder anyways, supereffective or not.

Also, you aren't catching any pokemon battling these trainers, so using moves just to catch pokemon or to transport you places is 100% useless (ubnless it has some use outside of that, such as Surf).

So things like Double Team and Flash should be avoided at all costs.
 
Anti-Pop said:
You aren't understanding where we're coming from. WiFi battlers aren't like wild pokemon or CPU trainers.

Hitting things for supereffective damage isn't even that important. For example, Return has 102 base power. On Snorlax, it will have 153 base power due to STAB (Same Type Attack Bonus). There is also Brick Break, which has 75 base power. While it lands a supereffective hit on something like Regice, Return would still do more because even with a doubled base power with Brick Break, it would only be 150 base power compared to Return's 153 base power.

Therefore, using moves like Ancientpower to kill birds us not a good justification of the move's use, especially since STAB Dragon moves from Palkia would hit harder anyways, supereffective or not.

Also, you aren't catching any pokemon battling these trainers, so using moves just to catch pokemon or to transport you places is 100% useless (ubnless it has some use outside of that, such as Surf).

So things like Double Team and Flash should be avoided at all costs.
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I agree.Wi-Fi is not play time for kids.It's serious.Sometimes hitting things for coverage isn't important but most of the time it is.For example,Ancientpower is sucky and while can kill birds,is inferior to Spacial Rend.Why? 150 Base power versus super effective 60 base power is stronger by 30.(Ancientpower is base 120 when super effective)
 
Spiritfire said:
OK here's the first Pokemon I will place first in battle:

1st... Bronzong - I will have to hope a Pokemon isn't super effective against Bronzong. If not - I will use both Reflect and Light Screen, use a few Flashes, and immediately switch to something that can kill the opposing Pokemon. If my Bronzong is weak against it, then I use Explosion or switch him out (perfect for the strongest Pokemon on the trainer's team).
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Lucky for you, few leads carry fire attacks (I think). But if they have something that can hit Bronzong, he'll be dead before he can use Flash. And hey, even if the first Pokemon they sent out is a bad matchup, they'll switch to someone who can give Bronzong hell. Give Zong some more supporting moves, like Stealth Rock or Hypnosis so it can use those while an opponent switches.

That's another thing about WiFi battling- people switch. A LOT. If an opponent is at a disadvantage in a matchup, they're not going to let their best Pokemon die. They're going to hightail it outta there. Nobody on WiFi is going to keep a Forretress in on an Infernape- a good opponent is always smart enough to keep his Pokemon alive.
 
airconditioning said:
Lucky for you, few leads carry fire attacks (I think). But if they have something that can hit Bronzong, he'll be dead before he can use Flash. And hey, even if the first Pokemon they sent out is a bad matchup, they'll switch to someone who can give Bronzong hell. Give Zong some more supporting moves, like Stealth Rock or Hypnosis so it can use those while an opponent switches.

That's another thing about WiFi battling- people switch. A LOT. If an opponent is at a disadvantage in a matchup, they're not going to let their best Pokemon die. They're going to hightail it outta there. Nobody on WiFi is going to keep a Forretress in on an Infernape- a good opponent is always smart enough to keep his Pokemon alive.
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It's true few leads carry fire attacks but most of them that do,make Bronzong suffer hell early.Such as my treasure,my Specsmence.One of the most feared pokemon in the metagame thanks to this generation's new item, the Choice Specs.So watch out.Hypnosis is almost a necessity on Bronzong for me since it can sleep things such as Infernape on the switch.It's true things switch a lot now.I do that on Wi-Fi too.A common example is Weavile versus a Salamence.Even if it's Intimidated,my dragon would still die a fast and terrible death.So don't get annoyed if people switch a lot
 
You see, cheap stall strategies like that just don't work. So tell me, when you set up Reflect, Light Screen, and then Flash them, what do you plan on doing to them? Just hope they don't switch out? Really, it's so easy to counter it's almost funny.

That Bronzong is just asking Skarmory to come in and Spike the field on you. Bronzong has much better moves to take advantage of as opposed to Flash. I hate to be the annoying one here, but you must listen. DO NOT USE FLASH. EVER. Flash is just...it just fails, there's no other way to put it. It has terrible accuracy, its effect isn't that useful, and it can be offset by switching. Bronzong has an excellent movepool of moves to choose from. I'd check out Serebii to see its full movepool. Relfect and Light Screen are cool and all, but Bronzong has other things to be doing remember.
 
Anti Pop, airconditioning, you are both dead wrong. That is a solid strategy he has there. If the opponent sends out a poke that cannot handle Bronzong, like Gyarados without Dragon Dance, they won't switch. They will sit there in utter confusion, wondering what to do next. Then, he will be able to use this master plan to use Reflect, Light Screen, and at least 4 Flashes (which will all hit). Just four, as not to be a brute. Of course, Gyarados, which is the opponent's greatest threat to this team (and his only strong pokemon) will sit there for all 6 turns to alow this. He can then switch, use a Gya counter and BAM! End Game.

Yeah,good luck having this magical senerio happen. Don't expect your opponent to be so dumb as to not switch.
 
I didn't even said people wouldn't switch, I said this wasn't going to be a multiplayer team in the first place plus I haven't beaten Pokemon 100% fully yet and I don't know where to get all of the TM's. I only play Pokemon just because it's RPG and I don't even own an NDS.

And I thought Flash had 100 Accuracy? Anything with 100 Accuracy never misses unless it is lowered by something else.
 
Spiritfire said:
I didn't even said people wouldn't switch, I said this wasn't going to be a multiplayer team in the first place plus I haven't beaten Pokemon 100% fully yet and I don't know where to get all of the TM's. I only play Pokemon just because it's RPG and I don't even own an NDS.

And I thought Flash had 100 Accuracy? Anything with 100 Accuracy never misses unless it is lowered by something else.
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No it doesn't have 100% accuracy.It has,I think,90 accuracy.
 
Flash has 70% accuracy on Serebii. But my Roserade has it 100% accuracy! That's weird. This is for Diamond/Pearl and not Ruby/Sapphire ya know.

[PokeCommunity.com] Team raised in Diamond/Pearl!
 
I play other games man. I own a Nintendo Gamecube and a couple PC games.

Emulator?
 
Spiritfire said:
I play other games man. I own a Nintendo Gamecube and a couple PC games.

Emulator?
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This is something you really should say at the beginning. Anyway, what's the point of asking for a team rate if you can't even play online?

Also, since you're playing on an emulator, you really have no excuse for not having perfect moves. Look up Pokesav, please.
 
No$GBA comes with GameShark/Action Replay support. I can use that.

Since that might be considered cheating, I'd have to go to the Game Corner but I need some more practice to win the slots.

lalapizzame said:
This thing would just epically fail.Why? Hyper Beam is suicide because while it's "recharging" a pokemon could just walk in and kill it with a move like Surf.Razor Claw has no use in Wi-Fi either.
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I want to keep Hyper Beam because if you notice, my whole team will be weak against a Gyarados. My Infernape has no moves to counter a Gyarados if I kept Grass Knot - although I like it since I can get rid of Swampert!

sims796 said:
Don't expect your opponent to be so dumb as to not switch.
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Now when will that switching stop? Switch till you drop? :tired:
 
Believe me, hyperbeam is NOT lessening your gyara weak, its just increasing your "everything else" weak

Oh and cheating on a rom really doesnt matter does it?
 
Look, since you won't be playing any real opponents, this thread is pointless. Yes, people switch. Alot. Yes, Hyper Beam is useless. All you'll do is be a sitting duck. But if this is ingame, who cares? Your opponents are stupid, so you don't have to worry. But acting like you know everything is a waste of our time.
 
Spiritfire said:
Grass Knot defeats the purpose of having a Roserade? :/
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Erm no. Just becuase you have a grass type, doesnt mean you only need grass attacks on that single pokemon. As an example, if you're roserade goes down swampert is gonna laugh at the rest of your team.
 
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