The Elemental Beams.

[Spike Razzor]

HP Ice Arcanine isn't common, niether is CB Mence. Thought I would even the odds. This is how easy that Arc loses a battle, see how easy is loses.

Begin Turn #1
Arieru Eisu withdrew Ninjask!
Arieru Eisu sent out Raging Infurnus (Lv.100 Arcanine)!
Arcanine's Intimidate cuts Beautifly's Attack!
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Beautifly used Double-Edge!
(22% damage)
Beautifly is hit with recoil!
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End of turn #1
Metaleon's Beautifly: 259 HP
Arieru Eisu's Arcanine: 78% HP

Begin Turn #2
Arcanine used Heat Wave!
(259 damage)
It's super effective!
Beautifly fainted!
Metaleon sent out Tyrant Dragon (Lv.100 Salamence)!
Salamence's Intimidate cuts Arcanine's Attack!
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End of turn #2
Metaleon's Salamence: 331 HP
Arieru Eisu's Arcanine: 78% HP

Begin Turn #3
Salamence used Earthquake!
(77% damage)
It's super effective!
Arcanine fainted!

Arcanine get Intimidated, so an ES combo before you faint wont work. You have no choice but to HP Ice, but you are too slow and lose. Its one for one, but since noone with a right mind would use HP Ice on am Arcanine to begin with, you're idea falls apart from the very begining. HP Fight is what Arcanine usually has, and its more of a use that HP Ice.

 

[Lion Heart]

That wasn't a fair 1 on 1.

First of all, it had damage from Beautifly, secondly, because Sal was switched in it got Intimidated.

Reverse the way it went and make Arc Intimidate Salamence and see what happens.

Why are you arguing? I said get back on topic it's my thread so do it.

 

[MewthreeXL]

Is this argument neccesary?I thought this thread was about the elemental beams and
movesets that support them,not whether Arcanine can take a hit from Salamence.

 

[Spike Razzor]

That wasn't a fair 1 on 1.

First of all, it had damage from Beautifly, secondly, because Sal was switched in it got Intimidated.

Reverse the way it went and make Arc Intimidate Salamence and see what happens.

Why are you arguing? I said get back on topic it's my thread so do it.

Do it any way you like, unless you know Mence is coming you're gonna faint. That added damage, which was a weak, means nothing. 405 + 1.5 @ Weak Def spells OHKO.

Zard @ Leftovers? Lum.
Substitute
Belly Drum
Earthquake/Rockslide/Aerial Ace or HP Fly
Blast Burn

 

[MewthreeXL]

Do it any way you like, unless you know Mence is coming you're gonna faint. That added damage, which was a weak, means nothing. 405 + 1.5 @ Weak Def spells OHKO.

Zard @ Leftovers? Lum.
Substitute
Belly Drum
Earthquake/Rockslide/Aerial Ace or HP Fly
Blast Burn

Charizard with that moveset is just begging to be Rock Blasted.:laugh:

 

[Spike Razzor]

Charizard with that moveset is just begging to be Rock Blasted.:laugh:

I see you are still having chills from my Armaldo, lol. Zard loses to Rock Blast anyways, might aswell Blast Something to bits lol.

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[MewthreeXL]

No,not really.I duplicated that set,and it loses out to proper prediction,and Scarmory,or
Tyranitar,and QA,ES,MP,or any Roarer/Whirlwinder for that matter.

 

[Spike Razzor]

No,not really.I duplicated that set,and it loses out to proper prediction,and Scarmory,or
Tyranitar,and QA,ES,MP,or any Roarer/Whirlwinder for that matter.

Ah, I see. Guess anyone can predict these days. Back in GSC some people struggled, but I guess everything now is a bit more predictable.

 

[Lion Heart]

Because people are using ONLY standard sets, which means unless it's someone from here, or another place, and you know they don't use standards, you can basically be guarenteed they will do wht you think they will.

Is this argument neccesary?

No, it isn't.

Zard @ Leftovers? Lum.
Substitute
Belly Drum
Earthquake/Rockslide/Aerial Ace or HP Fly
Blast Burn

This set kinda has Blast Burn out in the open, I know he has protection from the Sub, but I feel Zard needs more than that.
Belly Drumming for 1 physical move seems a little iffy to me.