The Official Deoxys-A in OU discussion

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Not really, but it should. Anyway, here's my UU team, please give it a good rate (No HYPER BEAM THAT SHARPEDO)

~Aerodactyl~ (Physical Sweeper/Stealth Rocker)

Aerodactyl @ Life Orb
Jolly
6 HP/252 Att/252 Spe
Stealth Rock
Crunch
Earthquake
Stone Edge

Comments: Aerodactyl in UU made me do a little dance. Fastest unboosted Stealth Rock makes him an excellent lead for my team. Crunch/Stone Edge/Earthquake for coverage and a hard hitting late game sweeper. Works well with an SD pass from Leafeon.


~Leafeon~ (Physical Sweeper/Swords Dance passer)

Leafeon @ Leftovers
Adamant
42 HP/252 Att/216 Spe
Swords Dance
Leaf Blade
Return
Baton Pass


Comments: Leafeon serves as my late game physical sweeper, tank, and Swords Dance passer. I have Hitmonlee and Aerodactyl, two guys who wouldn't mind a nice +2 Attack raise to help them in their sweep.


~Jynx~ (Special Sweeper)

Jynx @ Leftovers
Timid
6 HP/252 SpA/252 Spe
Calm Mind
Ice Beam
Substitute
Lovely Kiss


Comments: An absolute monster. Seriously, if Jynx gets up a Sub, it's going to be doing a hell of a lot of damage. Lovely Kiss lets me set up sweep, whereas Sub protects me from status and Pursuit harm. Ice Beam > Psychic for coverage.


~Hitmonlee~ (Physical Sweeper)

Hitmonlee @ Life Orb
Jolly
6 HP/252 Att/252 Spe
Close Combat
Earthquake
Stone Edge
Blaze Kick/Bullet Punch/Bulk Up


Comments: Woah man I love this thing. 2HKO's Steelix with Close Combat? Yes please! The first three slots are really basic. EQ and CC may seem redundant, but Nidoking is a real jerk to my team. Bullet Punch can help me against Froslass, but so could Blaze Kick. Bulk Up is just there to turn 2HKO's into OHKO's.


~Sharpedo~ (Mixed sweeper/Revenge killer)

Sharpedo @ Choice Scarf
Mild
82 Att/252 SpA/176 Spe
Hydro Pump/Surf
Ice Beam
Crunch
Earthquake


Comments: The meanest shark in UU comes to my aid as a revenge killer with a load of nice attacks to choose from. Hydro Pump, albeit inaccurate, OHKO's Steelix and Aggron, something Surf cannot do. Crunch is there for Hypno and Grumpig. EQ is there for just coverage, doesn't really add to nothing. Ice Beam for Altaria and various bulky grasses.


~Rotom~ (Status absorber/Fighting/Ground/Normal immunity)

Rotom @ Leftovers
Bold
252 HP/216 Def/42 SpD
Rest
Sleep Talk
Discharge
Shadow Ball


Comments: Coolest Ghost in UU without a doubt. Discharge there for extra paralysis support, whereas Shadow Ball is plain STAB. Status absorber, fighting, ground, and normal immunity.

 

[Ársa]

Has Scyther been allowed in UU? Or has it always been? I was under the presumption that it was BL, or banned from UU...

 

[Angelic Diablo]

Scyther has always been UU, However I prefer my banded Scyther to carry Quick Attack. It just causes pain to those sweepers who don't wanna run fearing a Pursuit

 

[Ársa]

Well i've been ignoring Scyther all these times when making UU teams for no reason... >_>

I can see a NP LO Ninetails weakness. Flamethrower+Energy Ball takes everything bar Hitmonlee for SE. Sharpedo can revenge kill with Hydro Pump, but I wouldn't rely solely on it. (Especially if Ninetails manages to Hypnosis on a switch in, or Hydro Pump misses)

DD Lapras can also be troublesome. After a DD, Jolly varients outspeed Scyther, while the Adamant versions usually carry Ice Shard. If Lapras manages to DD up, Waterfall will OHKO Hitmonlee. (144.63% - 170.25% vs Life Orb Adamant. 111.57% - 130.99% vs Leftovers Adamant)

~T_S

 

[Walrein]

Why Return on Leafeon? Wouldn;t X-scissor be a petter idea?

 

[ABYAY]

X-Scissor has redundant coverage with Grass, thus proving to be ineffective as an attacking move. Return is just the general "move for damage" move, preventing complete walling by Fire and Flying types.

Yeah, I just realized that Lapras gives you hell and back with the lack of an Ice resist that can hit hard. You still lack a Flying resist, meaning that if Scyther outspeeds yours and Sharpedo is dead, you're in a lot of trouble. Then again, not much can counter Scyther.

I know I'm crazy when I say this, but the UU metagame is actually balanced and not fully offensive, making it unique when compared to every other metagame (OU, Ubers, Little Cup). As for Scyther, Rotom resists all of Scyther's attacks except for Dark moves, making bulky Rotom a nice option if you must resort to it, although it's not strong enough to come in on Aerial Ace all day. Maybe one of the Rock/Steels will help (Aggron/Probopass/Bastiodon), but they require good prediction to use.

In UU, Blaze Kick isn't fully needed on Hitmonlee except for dealing with Grass/Poison types. Honestly, Bulk Up here could help differentiate some 2HKOs to OHKOs. Mach Punch holds that useful priority move with STAB, while Bullet Punch nabs Froslass. It's all your choice really.

Also...yes T_S, Scyther is UU, and it's a menace there.

 

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Why Return on Leafeon? Wouldn;t X-scissor be a petter idea?

Better coverage, overall more powerful too.

Honestly, Steelix cobined with a respective Claydol to take out hitmonlee destroy your team. Try Adding Claydol to the mix instead of Jynx.

Thanks for a piece of useless information. I don't even understand what you just said, either.

Has Scyther been allowed in UU? Or has it always been? I was under the presumption that it was BL, or banned from UU...

It's banned from Little Cup, not UU.

Scyther has always been UU, However I prefer my banded Scyther to carry Quick Attack. It just causes pain to those sweepers who don't wanna run fearing a Pursuit

I was thinking Quick Attack, but I couldn't find a good slot. Pursuit maybe?

X-Scissor has redundant coverage with Grass, thus proving to be ineffective as an attacking move. Return is just the general "move for damage" move, preventing complete walling by Fire and Flying types.

Yeah, I just realized that Lapras gives you hell and back with the lack of an Ice resist that can hit hard. You still lack a Flying resist, meaning that if Scyther outspeeds yours and Sharpedo is dead, you're in a lot of trouble. Then again, not much can counter Scyther.

Ice resist could be something along the lines of a steel type (not Steelix) right? Honestly, there aren't any I truly like.

I know I'm crazy when I say this, but the UU metagame is actually balanced and not fully offensive, making it unique when compared to every other metagame (OU, Ubers, Little Cup). As for Scyther, Rotom resists all of Scyther's attacks except for Dark moves, making bulky Rotom a nice option if you must resort to it, although it's not strong enough to come in on Aerial Ace all day. Maybe one of the Rock/Steels will help (Aggron/Probopass/Bastiodon), but they require good prediction to use.

Rock/Steels add a HUGE fighting/ground weakness. I *could* in theory support them with Scyther and Claydol.

In UU, Blaze Kick isn't fully needed on Hitmonlee except for dealing with Grass/Poison types. Honestly, Bulk Up here could help differentiate some 2HKOs to OHKOs. Mach Punch holds that useful priority move with STAB, while Bullet Punch nabs Froslass. It's all your choice really.

I was thinking that. Blaze Kick does less than neutral Close Combat, right?

Also...yes T_S, Scyther is UU, and it's a menace there.

Thanks for the rate ABYAY, I couldn't find a good UU Scyther counter that my teams supports.

 

[Syaoran]

Honestly, Steelix cobined with a respective Claydol to take out hitmonlee destroy your team. Try Adding Claydol to the mix instead of Jynx.

Do you have a clue? The answer is: NO. Watch as Hydro Pump / Surf from Sharpedo rips through both.


The team is very offensive.. just from looking at it, I already see you'll be having problems with Ninetales, which is a very common pokemon, and you can only try to revenge it with Sharpedo... your team will have to undergo severe changes in order to counter Ninetales and still be able to Stealth Rock / Rapid Spin. I think you might be better with Aerodactyl instead of Scyther, to hit fast and set up SR from the start of the battle. You could also consider using a defensive Rotom instead of Claydol to counter main threats like Swellow and Scyther (which your teams doesn't cover at all, barring the not-so-reliable revenge killing Sharpedo).

Leafeon with Wish on an offensive team such as this is also a joke, it could be carrying Baton Pass instead so Aerodactyl (^_^?) will be able to sweep stuff. That, or Quick Attack for a nice priority attack that can be great with SR support.

 

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Aerodactyl sounds nice. Should I use a LO Sweeper w/ Stealth Rock?

Aerodactyl @ Life Orb/Expert Belt
Jolly
42 HP/252 Att/216 Spe
Earthquake
Stone Edge
Crunch
Stealth Rock

As for Rotom, it could offer a status absorber/fighting immunity, so I'll try it out. EV's please

 

[Syaoran]

Rotom @ Leftovers
Bold
252 HP/216 Def/40 SpD
Shadow Ball / WoW
Thunderbolt
Sleep Talk
Rest


Aero could be used with Focus Sash and Taunt instead of Crunch. You could try both.

 

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Meh, I tried it out on another team, and in UU, it seems to be able to do quite a bit of damage. Plus, I'm almost guratanteed a switch. Persian and other Fake Outs can be lol stopped by Rotom. Thanks again Sya.

 

[ABYAY]

I'm gonna nitpick something in your details.

Where it says Claydol (Mixed Wall/ etc....), you have Rotom. Fix it! ^^

 

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>.> Fixed...I realized I have a Sub/Tbolt/Ice Beam/Shadow Ball Froslass weakness =/ Any cures?

 

[ABYAY]

Time for go go Flareon and go go Ninetales. Basically, Bulky fires will work if they can live 2 Shadow Balls, but honestly, not much fits that.

 

[BeachBoy]

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