The Rainbow Connection [LGBTS Club]

Guys' not wanting to look at other men naked is not just that they're not attracted to men's bodies. They're uncomfortable with the idea of men being portrayed as sexually desirable because they're stuck in their own heads and can't quite step outside of themselves and see things from the perspective of people who are attracted to men. Everything is about how attractive something is to them, straight males, not what others might want, so when they see men in the buff a part of their brain goes "What is this? I'm not attracted to this! Make it go away!" It's also part of what makes lots of guys so hostile to gay men since it confuses their brains which are wired to see men = desiring and women = desirable. When a man is shown as desirable in their heads it turns the man into a woman, or feminine, or whatever. It's not something they want because then they see themselves as the powerless objects they see women as.
 
I seem to have stumbled into some sort of porn debate, so let me weigh in!

As to the whether it'd be hotter for a straight guy to watch straight or lesbian porn, I can see both sides of the coin. The 'double-the-yum' argument makes a lot of sense, but at the same time I can see why they'd like straight porn too. While Scarf's notion that they would be uncomfortable with seeing men portrayed as sexually desirable is valid, I also think it makes perfect sense for guy-on-girl porn to turn a straight man on, since it would allow them to fantasize that they are the guy in the video and that everything being done to the guy is actually being done to them.

Also welcome to Rai! :D
 
What it really all boils down to is personal preference. A person's porn preference doesn't really have anything to do with their sexual preference. Some people really don't care, so long as the gender they're attracted to is present in the porn. Some don't want the same gender in their porn at all, some don't mind it.

It's not a function of being straight, or gay. It's a function of what arouses the person viewing the porn. So saying straight porn would "do it better" for straight people is kind of senseless. Granted, the straight person would make sure that it's the opposite sex in the porn, that's what they prefer. But I don't think it would be fair to assume that porn in any form cannot be enjoyed by an audience it wasn't intended for.
 
FenrirDarkWolf said:
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I'm really wondering what kind of conversation I'm actually seeing right now.....
...*cough*stillAminor*cough*
lol
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We are discussing the gender-switched version of yaoi.
Edit: Apparently Insomniac already made that comparison and I just made myself look like an idiot.
 
EGKangaroo said:
We are discussing the gender-switched version of yaoi.
Edit: Apparently Insomniac already made that comparison and I just made myself look like an idiot.
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That makes much more sense now! :p
*giggle*
Nah, I know what ya'll are talking about, I'm just a little curious at how big this became.
*shrug* I don't care, it's fun to read.
 
Insomniac said:
Hahaha I did yeah. How would that make you look like an idiot though? :p

I was saying I don't understand why most of my girl friends think yaoi is so hot.
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I think it's for the same reason a lot of males think girl-on-girl is hot.
I honestly thought that when a guy watches Female/Female and when a chick watches Male/Male, I thought they liked it because they know it's something they'll never be able to really do, y'know, fantasizing and stuff.
Plus Guy on Guy is hot!
 
I don't understand either. But then again, I don't like guys at all so...

As a lesbian, straight love or yoai love doesn't make as much sense to me as yuri. I am not saying that they are a bad thing, though. There are a lot of straight and gay couples I find cute. I guess I am just too gay to comprehend lol.

Does anyone else feel this way? Or am I just a weirdo? D; x3
 
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It's kind of weird if you think about it - homosexuality is often seen as unnatural and like it makes no sense whatsoever, but a homosexual's porn habits make a lot more instant sense than a straight person's do.
 
Insomniac said:
I don't even like porn, but I sure as heck like yuri better than straight or yaoi. Same thing here, I am just too gay to even think of watching a dude at all.
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I guess yuri wasn't the right word because I don't like porn either. I mean, in general, that two girls being together (holding hands, kissing, etc.) just makes more sense to me.

But speaking of yuri... In the Tales Of Graces games, there is a a guy character named Yuri and I always crack up about it. To make it even funnier, it is a Japanese game and he looks like a girl x3

Shining Raichu said:
It's kind of weird if you think about it - homosexuality is often seen as unnatural and like it makes no sense whatsoever, but a homosexual's porn habits make a lot more instant sense than a straight person's do.
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You are right; I never really thought about it that way. What seems unnatural to me is natural to a straight person and vice versa.
 
Insomniac said:
I definitely think that two women in love is a beautiful thing. Not to sound biased or anything, but in all honesty, I don't know why, but I feel really weird around a straight couple kissing. Like I always think about how the guy's lips would feel, and I always think they'd feel cold and gross because he is a guy. That is just how gay I am right there.

Haha Yuri is a girl name in Japan, too!
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Two women in love is the most beautiful thing in the world to me. And yeah, I can relate to that. If I ever try to imagine myself being with a guy, my brain is like NO. It just feels wrong.

And I know, it is just ironic x3

FenrirDarkWolf said:
@Insomniac: I THOUGHT YOU WERE A GUY AT FIRST! *cries*

I wrote an essay for English once about LGBT rights, and I disproved this thought using science and observations of animals in their natural and enclosed habitats.
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LMFAO I am sorry, that was funny.

And awesome! I have written a bunch of papers on gay rights. My favorite one is when I wrote about how America is behind a lot of other countries when it comes to civil rights- Spain, South Africa, etc. all have gay marriage.

And speaking about animals, have you guys heard of the gay penguin couple in Germany? :3
 
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Shining Raichu said:
It's kind of weird if you think about it - homosexuality is often seen as unnatural and like it makes no sense whatsoever, but a homosexual's porn habits make a lot more instant sense than a straight person's do.
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I've always preferred either guy/guy or girl/girl, not a fan of straight porn at all... I guess that makes sense, being bisexual?


I've always thought of gay couples as having much more pure/innocent relationships, because I have they have to overcome all these extra challenges to be together, and so their love must be much stronger than a straight person who can just go bang whoever they want without having to worry about it. I'm sure that's not really true in the real world, but I can dream can't I?
 
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I think it's times like this I'm pretty sure my family won't mind that I'm bi, even though I really haven't came out to them yet...

The thing I'm most scared of is telling them I have a boyfriend already, and the bigger thing is distance, and age difference.
He lives in Pennsylvania, and I like in Texas, and he's 19, and I'm 15.
And, it scares the hell out of me to say this. I talked to a friend earlier, and she said to tell them that I have one, but not mention the age, because, that's my biggest fear, is that we'll be separated...

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@PhantomX0990: I sorta know what you're going through, but sorta don't at the same time.
 
QuilavaKing said:
I've always thought of gay couples as having much more pure/innocent relationships, because I have they have to overcome all these extra challenges to be together.
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I agree completely. Do you know how hard it is for a gay couple to adopt? They have to do so much in order to get a child, unlike straight couples who can have a child whenever they want.

@PhantomX0990

I am sorry your parents aren't very supportive. But if you truly want to be with this woman, you are going to have to let them know. That is why I came out to my mom- I knew I wanted to be with women and I didn't want to hide that from her. It was worth it in the end- I have a girlfriend that I have been dating for 3 and half years. Everyone in my family knows and they really like her. Even if you are scared of how they will react, it will be a big weight off of your shoulders, especially if you want to have a long term relationship with this woman.

I think your mom will be able to accept it. If she could put her insecurities aside for her friend, then she will be able to do the same for you, her daughter. I think the idea of having her Facebook friend ease her into it would be very helpful. It would make it less shocking to your mom and you would also have someone else on your side. But first you need to make sure you can trust and rely on her.

And you won't regret it. Even if your family does not react well at first, it will be worth it in the end. You will feel revealed and like there is less on your plate. The anxiety beforehand is the worst- believe me, I know, but once you go through with it, you will feel much better.
 
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QuilavaKing said:
I've always thought of gay couples as having much more pure/innocent relationships, because I have they have to overcome all these extra challenges to be together, and so their love must be much stronger than a straight person who can just go bang whoever they want without having to worry about it. I'm sure that's not really true in the real world, but I can dream can't I?
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... unless you live in San Francisco. No, I mean it. My friend who lived there for a while has told me a whole lot about some of the things that go on there when you know where to go and who to talk to. Like bars that have a weekly underwear night.

But I know what you mean. When you're talking about a loving, committed relationship then it's harder.

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You have to live your own life. You can't live your life for them. It's sad that your mom wanted a lot of kids and couldn't have a lot, but that can't be changed. It's sad that you were raised by parents who you couldn't come out to, but that can be changed. You can't just become straight. It's your life, and a rather personal part of your life so no one should be making you feel bad for who you love. Not your family, and not you yourself by worrying that they'll take it badly. I don't know how much your family means to you, but I think it's better to risk their anger and hatred by being who you are and standing up for who you love than to hide it.
 
[PokeCommunity.com] The Rainbow Connection [LGBTS Club]


Talking about porn on a Pokémon forum. Because why the hell not? :P

@PhantomX0990: Very sorry to hear about your situation. As I've said before, if your mom really loves you, she'll accept you for who you are even if they don't agree with it. In a perfect world we could be free to be ourselves without anyone batting an eye, but this isn't a perfect world and with some people, tolerance is the best you can hope for. In the end, you're just going to have to get it over with and deal with the consequences. Whatever happens, I'm sure you'll feel a lot better after getting everything out in the open. You have to live your own life and do what makes you happy, and if anyone objects then it's their problem. And congratulations on finding someone, I hope you have a long and happy relationship.
 
@ PhantomX0990...

I dunno if it helps much, but... we're all rootin' for ya, hard as we can! Like little rainbow-coloured plants. ;) Or a cheerleading squad! Yeah, an international cheerleading squad. *pumps pom-poms* The human pyramid might be a bit difficult when half the squad are on different continents, but whatevs, we'll work something out. ;)

Which is all to say, you're brilliant, I really hope your friend helps you, and you are being incredibly brave. Chin up, we all think you're awesome. :D
 
I have told exactly one person in my family that I was bisexual.
She explained to me something I already know that, everyone's just a little bit bi, in that, you see a nice looking girl and be like, "Damn! She fine!" and then you see a nice looking guy, "Mmmhmm!" And then be we got into one of our weird talks.
You all understand?
Anyway, I didn't tell her anymore of the juicy bits like my boyfriend.
 
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