The Search For The "Best" Physical Wall/Tank(Maybe)

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    Ok I Am trying to make the "best"* team!I already have Special and Physical Sweepers, a Special Wall,and a Mixed Sweeper!(movesets at bottom).These pokemon are the ones I thought might work.
    -Steelix
    -Skarmory(don't really like...)
    -Aggron
    -Bastidon
    -Probopass
    -Forretress
    -Rhyperoir
    If you think of any other pokemon that might work feel free to post them(but please no ubers)!please no movesets until I choose which pokemon I am going to use!The other members of my team!

    Special Sweeper:
    Gengar@Wide Lens
    Trait: Levitate
    Nature: Timid
    EVs: 252 SATK/ 252 SPEED/ 4 HP
    -Shadowball
    -Thunderbolt
    -Focus Blast
    -Hypnosis

    Physical Sweeper:
    Weavile@Life Orb
    Trait: Pressure
    Nature: Jolly
    EVs: 252 ATK/ 252 SPEED/ 4 HP
    -Night Slash
    -Ice Punch
    -Brick Break
    -Return

    Special Wall:
    Snorlax@Leftovers
    252 HP/158 Def/100 SP.Def
    Impish
    Thick Fat
    -Rest
    -Curse
    -EQ
    -Return

    My Mixed Sweeper:
    Infernape@Focus Sash
    252 speed/158 attack/100 special attack
    Blaze
    Naive
    -Nasty Plot
    -Flamethrower
    -Close Combat
    -Brick Break

    Thanks to Penguinpal6 and Kazaam for movesets!

    *not proven to be the "best"
     
    ... Isnt there already a thread for the "Best" team already? lol

    Anyways, I prefer Steelix, he'll absorb ANY physical attacks, and doesnt have any 4x weakness

    (In my opinion, there is no best team, every team MUST have a weakness, no matter what)
     
    I know but every time I just put I want a team revised they don't pay attention!so Steelix... cool!
     
    My choice is Steelix as well. An advice is to use Iron Ball. It's like heaven's gift for Steelix: powers up Gyro Ball and makes EQ hit Flying types and those with Levitate.

    Setup I use:

    Steelix @ Iron Ball
    Relaxed Nature (edited)
    - Roar
    - Stealth Rock
    - Earthquake
    - Gyro Ball

    Hope it helps.
     
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    What does Iron Ball Do Exactly(sorry n00b question)and thanx!Plus Steelix covers Fernape's flying weakness(if Iron Ball works Like I think it does)!
     
    Nameless111 said:
    (In my opinion, there is no best team, every team MUST have a weakness, no matter what)
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    Every team has a weakness. ;)

    As much as you hate Skarmory their is a reason he is OU.

    Then again Bronzong is a good physical wall. HAs al ot of resistances and is immune to Earthquake with Levitate. It only fears the not so common fire attacks.
     
    Blazikendude said:
    What does Iron Ball Do Exactly(sorry n00b question)and thanx!Plus Steelix covers Fernape's flying weakness(if Iron Ball works Like I think it does)!
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    Iron Ball lowers your Speed, so more damage for Gyro Ball, and it makes Ground moves hit Pokemon that are Flying-type or have the Levitate Ability (like Weezing, ..)
    It doesn't make Ground-type moves super effective against Flying Pokemon, if that's what you thought.

    P.S.: I got the nature wrong. Use relaxed.
    Cheers.
     
    Steelix is probably one of the worst Stealth-Shufflers around

    Steelix@Macho Brace
    Trait: Sturdy
    Nature: Relaxed
    EVs: 252 HP/ 172 DEF/ 80 ATK

    Earthquake
    Gyro Ball
    Stone Edge/Ice Fang
    Toxic/Stealth Rock
     
    Feuerbach said:
    Iron Ball lowers your Speed, so more damage for Gyro Ball, and it makes Ground moves hit Pokemon that are Flying-type or have the Levitate Ability (like Weezing, ..)
    It doesn't make Ground-type moves super effective against Flying Pokemon, if that's what you thought.

    Cheers.
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    no i was jost saying flying aint got nothin on Steelix!And that is what i thught it did(lower your speed/make flying pokes/pokes with levitate succeptible to Ground moves)!
     
    Well, yeah. While steelix is my fav physical wall, if you want the "best" team you would have bliss, but meh, I hate it too. Back on topic, Steelix can take any physical blow with the set mentioned above (the one with iron ball). However, it needs to be edited. 252 EVs in defense and HP, the rest in attack. Also, relaxed nature for gyro ball.

    EDIT: BTW, use stone edge and stealth rock if you don't want it to be a SR shuffler.
     
    Blazkiendude: Sorry, I got you wrong.
    13: Sorry, made a typo there with the nature.
    Penguinpal6: Sorry, but why do you say it's a horrible Stealth Shuffler, and then include Toxic and Stealth Rock in your moveset?
     
    So my Finished Product would be:

    Steelix@Iron Ball
    EV's 252 Def/ 252 HP/ 4Atk
    Nature: Relaxed
    Ability: Sturdy
    -Stone Edge
    -Stealth Rock
    -Gyro Ball
    -EQ
     
    Honestly, I don't think it's a great stealthshuffler, but it's better than some, definately.

    EDIT: Just saw your post, everything looks fine.
     
    I guess it slipped off my mind, but of course you have Weezing, who is indeed a good Physical Wall. Not only it will take physical hits, but it can debilitate Physical Sweepers (Will-o-Wisp) if they don't have an Aromatherapist.

    From what I've gathered Weezing is generally preferred to Steelix as a Physical Wall. My advice, just pick the goddamn Pokemon you like better for some reason, then work out the best possible setup for them, at least it's what I do. But then again, my ideas would quickly pull you down to BL/UU, so I'll STFU.

    In good faith,
    F
     
    BL is borderline, OU is overused, just in case ya didn't know.
     
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