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The Search For The "Best" Physical Wall/Tank(Maybe)

Weavile is a great lead...any other questions feel free to ask. Also, steelix, since he doesn't have a healing move, really needs max defense, or close to it.
 
if I were to lower its Def I wouldn't lower it by much.
 
Yeah, no healing move=max defense. Since it can't take special attacks anyways, SpD EVs are useless on it, unless you actually invest A LOT of those EVs in it, but that's what blissey's for.
 
Course I hate Bliss!But as you said if you were to put enough EV's on it to survive any Special attacks then it would die from Physical attacks!
 
Exactly, which is why you EV it in defense. Being weak to EQ, steelix needs all the defense it can get. Max 548...yeah, that's a lot.
 
I can guarantee it'll still survive even without max defence, as I've tried it out myself. My first try was giving it max HP and defence, but as the result, there was always a mixed sweeper throwing a surprise special attack right at Steelix and resulting an OHKO. It wouldn't hurt to be on the safe side.

Shuckle has great defences and you can switch out on something that resists it. It's most useful in teams that rely on resistances rather than walls, in my opinion.
 
Shirosaki said:
It's most useful in teams that rely on resistances rather than walls, in my opinion.
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Very good point. However, shuckle fails because of the movepool, and 20 base HP isn't great either...max defense steelix has worked very well for me, though some SpD EVs could work...but only having about 16 won't do too much...there are several spreads for steelix, depends on the moveset for me. A steelix with rest can have more attack EVs for example...then again...never mind. Depends on your personal preference I guess.
 
Holy run-on-sentance/paragraph.

But I get what your saying I can't resist 548 Defense its to.....Amazing. In all honesty though, why not max out Defense with a Brave or Sassy Nature. It'll give you an extra boost in eather Special Defense or Attack. And you can still max out Steelix's defense at almost 500.

If you go relaxed though I'd only give it around 100 Defense EV's. As tempting as it is, you can be more versatile if you spread the love. :)
 
I Like:

**Curselax @:Leftovers/Chople Berry
Trait: Thick Fat
Adamant/Careful Nature
Curse
Earthquake
Rest
Return.
 
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Itachi Uchiha said:
I Like:

**Curselax @:Leftovers/Chople Berry
Trait: Thick Fat
Adamant/Careful Nature
Curse
Earthquake
Rest
Return.
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I'd use Body Slam over Return, just if people like paralysis support and damage done in the process. Honestly, Snorlax was really a great pokémon in every gen, but I feel as if D/P hasn't done it much good. There are much greater special attackers, and Snorlax didn't really improve in this gen. I'm positive it's still useful, but it has come down from the dominating force it was in the past generations.
 
Shirosaki said:
I'd use Body Slam over Return, just if people like paralysis support and damage done in the process. Honestly, Snorlax was really a great pokémon in every gen, but I feel as if D/P hasn't done it much good. There are much greater special attackers, and Snorlax didn't really improve in this gen. I'm positive it's still useful, but it has come down from the dominating force it was in the past generations.
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Correct. In fact, with nasty plot and choice specs, snorlax needs to buf up those special defense EVs...pretty much sucks if you run into a nasty plot azelf...also, that snorlax is walled by gengar...meaning all your cursing up will vanish. At least consider crunch if you do use curselax...wait, weren't we talking about steelix? Steelix does need at least 500 defense IMO...then you can spread the EVs around more, but steelix has to be able to survive.
 
I say that you need to Max out on Def cause if ya' run into a Mixedmince packing Fthrower even if you have a little Sp.Def EV's then your still gonna die!So I say Max out the def.
 
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