Don't worry Zow, if we need help, I will PM you, or look at HoO.While I'm here, I'll answer as many questions as I can, pertaining to the void or about tweaking. I may log in now and then, to check up on this thread. Otherwise, I'll be over at Hall of Origin, most likely in Chat.
So with that, any questions?
BSoD = Black Screen of Doom (Note: What happened to me was a blackout, the difference between the two is that a BSoD cannot be fixed, while a blackout can be fixed by reloading the graphics in a safe place. If done in a bad place, the game freezes)Nintendo sure wants some challenege with Arceus then. :P
Don't try it, I am using another method. This method is too long and complicated, and freezes too often.
By the way, since when you developed these shortcuts BSoD and NNFS and NNNFS? Could you please write a list of the tweaking abbreviations and their meaning so I can start the tweaking dictionary in post 1?
What? How long you have had the bike does not matter, try this:i WAS never able to tweak my DIAMOND because i only found out about tweaking when my bike was 3 years old and i guess it coulnt go fast enough to tweak or sumthin.
Escape rod? Did you save in a Jubilife city area in the void, so you would reload in flower paradise?I tweaked a long time ago too and saved in the void.
After that I tried to find the Shaymin. I just went to the Fake-Flower Path without the original graphics.
I`ve ride the way up with my bike and ta-daaa!... :(
No Shaymin...
I thought that I`ll never get out from there. Luckily I had an escape rod :P
The goal now is to find an HoO (Hall of Origin) ABOVE Real Sinnoh.
nope, I was on chat last night and asked. No dice.And? Anybody managed already to get to the Hall of Origin? xD
nope, I was on chat last night and asked. No dice.
I know that, I was there when Tef found it... That is why I said no, not to get any hopes up...Which is not ENTIRELY true. We've found the Hall of Origin, heck, we've even gotten to it, we just can't save in it yet. We're currently trying to find a way to save in it, but so far, as Dragon said, no dice.
Which is not ENTIRELY true. We've found the Hall of Origin, heck, we've even gotten to it, we just can't save in it yet. We're currently trying to find a way to save in it, but so far, as Dragon said, no dice.
I know that, I was there when Tef found it... That is why I said no, not to get any hopes up...
EDIT: You know what is weird about this topic? This has very little to do with actual tweaking, and has a lot more to do with the void... I guess it is just common to associate them with each other. Seeing how you can get into the void ONLY by tweaking... If you don't use a... *GASP* Action Replay...
lol Action Replays are very useful for that reason though.
EDIT2: I have to correct a previous mistake I made. SFS (South Fake Sinnoh) indeed does exist. Either I, or Tef (at the time) overshot it, or undershot it.
Later on, Tef got there, and I wanted to see what it was like (explore it), well, I know where I screwed up. There was a blackout at 38K south and 1000 West, and at the time, I went 1000 more west, 4000 south, and 1000 east. Needless to say, I overshot with that 4000, and when I went back up to where SFS should have been, there was nothing.
The next time, at 38K south, I just went 1200 East putting me right on axis with... Newmoon Island I think it was. I was able to get there, and to my disappointment, it was all MZ (Mystery Zone)... I go all the way to SEFS (South East Fake Sinnoh), and also note, the Sunnyshore area has a wall to the east, so I had to go up to the league route and go east. To my disappointment.... SEFS was just an MZ too... So now I try to go up to EFS (You get the acronyms by now, right?), I get to an area of other locations besides MZ, and about 5000 up from that, there was a Hall of Fame location... So needless to say, I am now in the Hall of Fame with only two badges.
*Note: I know Auburn has done that before, but this was the actual Hall of Fame. Before Zowa remarks on this, it is quite common in that area... Which makes it only an obstacle, or a really accidental way to beat the game, lol.
EDIT3: Naturekeeper, here is a little present, after you save and reset at 430 N, go 2400 East, then about 28,000 South. There is one bad thing... You cannot save in it yet. The reason is because it is past a sort of sinnoh, the only void section that works is Sinnoh up to North Fake Sinnoh. Hey, that gives us at least 4,294,127,760 tiles to work with, and we know it exists.
Hi Zowayixx.
Wish you guys all the best in figuring out how to save in the HoO.
Funny thing, I went to look in the NDS file. (data/fielddata/mapmatrix/map_matrix.narc)
I found a matrix the Hall of Origin is in. It's to the right of Great Marsh Area 6 (wth) and north of the final Ruin Maniac's Cave (the one where Ruin Maniac guy goes "Wow... My digging punched me through to this weird place. I'd say you can thank me for being a Ruin Maniac!"). Or some other direction. But the Hall of Origin is connected to those places. Try the Ruin Maniac Cave. Try going all the way left. And try north as well (not together!) Might not work, I don't know.
Hi Zowayixx.
Wish you guys all the best in figuring out how to save in the HoO.
Funny thing, I went to look in the NDS file. (data/fielddata/mapmatrix/map_matrix.narc)
I found a matrix the Hall of Origin is in. It's to the right of Great Marsh Area 6 (wth) and north of the final Ruin Maniac's Cave (the one where Ruin Maniac guy goes "Wow... My digging punched me through to this weird place. I'd say you can thank me for being a Ruin Maniac!"). Or some other direction. But the Hall of Origin is connected to those places. Try the Ruin Maniac Cave. Try going all the way left. And try north as well (not together!) Might not work, I don't know.
Hold on there speedies. 1. We have found an HoO, I have a theory on why it doesn't work, but that is irrelevant. Anyway, 2. I want Zowa to come and check your theory out, because if I remember correctly, he doesn't think your theories work... at all.Ruin Maniac Cave void. I know how to enter this very void. It has one safe way. It includes this:
1- Do the Shaymin thing, however, stop when you do the whole 65k steps thingy.
2- When you are in Fake Sinnoh Route... uh... (The one that is near the seabreak path, what was it?!) , And ride left.
In some place there, I found a void section called (Ruin Maniac Cave).
OR
I found a tweaking area in the whole Route that includes the Ruin Maniac Void. It froze there when I ran with a fast gear. It needs repels, though.
Disregard most of what Angelsl says. He's on our forums over at Hall of Origin and thinks he knows everything. He's also apparently 27. Listen to me well, and I stress this:
YOU CANNOT TELL THAT INFORMATION FROM THE .NARC FILES.
He's an idiot that looks around in the .narc's and thinks he found something I haven't. Guys, I've looked through every, EVERY single .narc file. The ONLY way to tell where areas are in regard to each other is to use a tile editor, which would either take a long time to make, or be impossible to make.
Also, I'm about to come up with a formula to find different Hall of Origin's in the void, that anyone can try.
Zowayixx I could point at that you can hex edit a narc file and be able to tell what is located where...
I started my hacks via hex...
I know everything? All this info I got from other people. And I'm not 27.
By the way, looking through every narc file would take years. And the data in the narc files are not plaintext, it's BINARY. You don't expect to see something like
Route 204
-----^
Jubilife City
in the narc file.
If everyone is going to believe Zowayixx, and have a closed mind, so be it, fine by me. He's a tweaking expert. Not a game data/ROM hacking/etc expert.
