There should be a special tournament arc/season after the Kalos-League

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    This is the 6th generation of Pokémon games and each trainer can only have 6 Pokémon with them.

    So I thought of some kind of tournament where Trainers are only allowed to use 1 Pokémon of each region. Only trainers who have Pokémon from the 6 first regions of the main games can enter.

    So for example Ash would use a Team consisting of Charizard-Donphan-Glalie-Staraptor-Krokodile-and in the future any Pokémon from Kalos. Of course when I say 1 Pokémon I meant in one battle, in the next one Ash could change Charizard for Pikachu.

    The tournament could also consists of 6 Pokémon of only one region.

    Like Ash's team consisting of: Pikachu-Bulbasaur-Charizard-Kingler-Muk-Tauros.

    This would be a good excuse for Ash catching some more Kanto Pokémon. (my preference would be Oddish, Poliwag and Gastly since their fully evolved forms are one of my favourites) I would also love that Ash visits Pidgeot. But any Pokémon would be fine too.

    Special badges are required too (I would say 4) but Ash can only obtain the ones from Kanto because he is from that region.

    In the tournament the Pokedex identifies which Pokémon catched in which region and then he enters the tournament.

    So what you guys think?
     
    Well , If Ash win the Kalo League then he can go back to Unova to compete in the Real ''Pokemon World Tournament'' and also meet Rosa in progress .
    Lets be honest , Rosa has a lot of fan even though she only appear in Promo.
     
    I like idea of special tournament, pervated with significance mini quest after Kalos league. If there was more plot, build up on story and special tournaments Decolora islands would have been so much better imo and give out impression of character gaining something from traveling there. Providing more texture and significance to pokemon journey.

    Perhaps writers could create chain of mini tournaments allowing 16 participants at most. Divided in three separate competitions testing Ash and his friends skills, resourcefulness and capacity of adapting to unexpected situations and knowledge as far as pokemon and strategy in battles go.
    Featuring some older gym leaders like Sabrina, Chuck, Juan, Candicem, Volkner etc. Some E4 members so far not introduced in pokemon anime like Glacia, Will, Shauntal or Marshall?

    Yeah it may be pretty obvious how this would be some sort of equivalent to World Cup from BW2 gvames. But why not?

    It would provide material for great storyline, potential character development and chance that Ash comes closer toward his dream of becoming pokemon master. Or Clemont being able to meet and try out his battle abilities vs some of top trainers out there helping him to form more ingenious way of battling and utilizing pokemon techniques. As well helping to become more sure in himself and his own understanding of pokemon. Something he has long way to go if incident with Chespin was something to go by. Feeling he isn't good enough trainer who can provide best care to his pokemon.

    Best of all this storyline could open doors toward special mini arcs featuring Ash past traveling companions joining Kalost cast just like current gym leader Korrina or in past Lyra or N did for several episodes. Like bringing back May helping to promote RS remakes, teach local people about contests and show how much she improved or why not give Misty chance to shine in new pokemon series format?

    She could shine alot in tournaments mentioned above helping her to learn about mote creative, substantial battle style. Improve her skills, battle stronger trainers than she meets at gym and ptovide way to be noticed and acknowledged for her talent and skills on global basis entering tournaments with tough competition. Coming closer that way toward title of water master in becoming renowned and worldwide honored water expert.
    For which traveling and entering strong competitions is needed as Wallace for example showed.

    Imo bringing some of long gone Ash past friends for special tournament and in saga post Kalos league would enrich on character interactions, surrounding and series plot.
    In sense of learning more about those we like, see them refreshed through new clothes, pokemon, subplots and struggles and developed with continuation of story being done.
    Which would please older fans ans get new kids interested in Ash ex companions in finding out what they are doing here and who they are.
     
    Well , If Ash win the Kalo League then he can go back to Unova to compete in the Real ''Pokemon World Tournament'' and also meet Rosa in progress .
    Lets be honest , Rosa has a lot of fan even though she only appear in Promo.

    I think Ash will not win the Kalos League either ^^

    Like many characters from a generation only appeared later, Lance made his debut in the Johto series and Wallace in the Sinnoh series, Rosa could appear in this series too, but I think Hilda deserves an anime appearance too.

    I like idea of special tournament, pervated with significance mini quest after Kalos league. If there was more plot, build up on story and special tournaments Decolora islands would have been so much better imo and give out impression of character gaining something from traveling there. Providing more texture and significance to pokemon journey.

    Perhaps writers could create chain of mini tournaments allowing 16 participants at most. Divided in three separate competitions testing Ash and his friends skills, resourcefulness and capacity of adapting to unexpected situations and knowledge as far as pokemon and strategy in battles go.
    Featuring some older gym leaders like Sabrina, Chuck, Juan, Candicem, Volkner etc. Some E4 members so far not introduced in pokemon anime like Glacia, Will, Shauntal or Marshall?

    Yeah it may be pretty obvious how this would be some sort of equivalent to World Cup from BW2 gvames. But why not?

    It would provide material for great storyline, potential character development and chance that Ash comes closer toward his dream of becoming pokemon master. Or Clemont being able to meet and try out his battle abilities vs some of top trainers out there helping him to form more ingenious way of battling and utilizing pokemon techniques. As well helping to become more sure in himself and his own understanding of pokemon. Something he has long way to go if incident with Chespin was something to go by. Feeling he isn't good enough trainer who can provide best care to his pokemon.

    Best of all this storyline could open doors toward special mini arcs featuring Ash past traveling companions joining Kalost cast just like current gym leader Korrina or in past Lyra or N did for several episodes. Like bringing back May helping to promote RS remakes, teach local people about contests and show how much she improved or why not give Misty chance to shine in new pokemon series format?

    She could shine alot in tournaments mentioned above helping her to learn about mote creative, substantial battle style. Improve her skills, battle stronger trainers than she meets at gym and ptovide way to be noticed and acknowledged for her talent and skills on global basis entering tournaments with tough competition. Coming closer that way toward title of water master in becoming renowned and worldwide honored water expert.
    For which traveling and entering strong competitions is needed as Wallace for example showed.

    Imo bringing some of long gone Ash past friends for special tournament and in saga post Kalos league would enrich on character interactions, surrounding and series plot.
    In sense of learning more about those we like, see them refreshed through new clothes, pokemon, subplots and struggles and developed with continuation of story being done.
    Which would please older fans ans get new kids interested in Ash ex companions in finding out what they are doing here and who they are.

    I was more thinking of the generation games protagonists and rivals participating.

    With Ash Battling against Ethan, Brendan and Gary for example (Gary is now a scientist but he could want to battle for fun.
     
    I like idea of special tournament, pervated with significance mini quest after Kalos league. If there was more plot, build up on story and special tournaments Decolora islands would have been so much better imo and give out impression of character gaining something from traveling there. Providing more texture and significance to pokemon journey.

    Perhaps writers could create chain of mini tournaments allowing 16 participants at most. Divided in three separate competitions testing Ash and his friends skills, resourcefulness and capacity of adapting to unexpected situations and knowledge as far as pokemon and strategy in battles go.
    Featuring some older gym leaders like Sabrina, Chuck, Juan, Candicem, Volkner etc. Some E4 members so far not introduced in pokemon anime like Glacia, Will, Shauntal or Marshall?

    Yeah it may be pretty obvious how this would be some sort of equivalent to World Cup from BW2 gvames. But why not?

    It would provide material for great storyline, potential character development and chance that Ash comes closer toward his dream of becoming pokemon master. Or Clemont being able to meet and try out his battle abilities vs some of top trainers out there helping him to form more ingenious way of battling and utilizing pokemon techniques. As well helping to become more sure in himself and his own understanding of pokemon. Something he has long way to go if incident with Chespin was something to go by. Feeling he isn't good enough trainer who can provide best care to his pokemon.

    Best of all this storyline could open doors toward special mini arcs featuring Ash past traveling companions joining Kalost cast just like current gym leader Korrina or in past Lyra or N did for several episodes. Like bringing back May helping to promote RS remakes, teach local people about contests and show how much she improved or why not give Misty chance to shine in new pokemon series format?

    She could shine alot in tournaments mentioned above helping her to learn about mote creative, substantial battle style. Improve her skills, battle stronger trainers than she meets at gym and ptovide way to be noticed and acknowledged for her talent and skills on global basis entering tournaments with tough competition. Coming closer that way toward title of water master in becoming renowned and worldwide honored water expert.
    For which traveling and entering strong competitions is needed as Wallace for example showed.

    Imo bringing some of long gone Ash past friends for special tournament and in saga post Kalos league would enrich on character interactions, surrounding and series plot.
    In sense of learning more about those we like, see them refreshed through new clothes, pokemon, subplots and struggles and developed with continuation of story being done.
    Which would please older fans ans get new kids interested in Ash ex companions in finding out what they are doing here and who they are.

    Yeah, and even better, they should make up for their failed opportunity in promoting B2W2 by actually having the Gym Leader conference that was in the games, and have Misty involved in it. Honestly, their skipping that was just a horrible mistake for the writers. Honestly, if they viewed the Anime as one big commercial for the games, including the Gym Leader tournament would have worked in promoting something actually from the games. Plus, it would have given them the perfect excuse to at least bring Misty back temporarily (Brock may have been in that roster in the games, but unfortunately, thanks to his irresponsibility regarding Pewter Gym in the face of his family's twice-demonstrated gross incompetence in running it, not to mention the writers wanting girls only for eyecandy, Brock's no longer a gym leader and thus cannot appear through that method).

    And yeah, Misty really needs to get back into her Water Pokémon Master goal after her sisters (and the writers) effectively forced her to abandon that goal to run the gym, and nearly have the gym closed down thanks to some enmity from other characters. Based on her reappearances in AG, BF, and the 10th anniversary special, she definitely wants to escape the gym life if the opportunity presented itself, and BF especially showed she was willing to delay returning to the gym. That speaks volumes about how much she loves (or rather, loathes) running the gym. Honestly, Iris at least was allowed to pursue her goal of becoming a Dragon Pokémon Master despite being a gym leader in the games, so why can't Misty? On the topic of Misty, based on Mayumi Iizuka's tweet a couple of weeks ago, a Misty reappearance is guaranteed (see my scandal topic for more information on that, or better yet go to the link and use Twitters translator icon). Either they bring her back permanently or, in the event that her reappearance is just another guest appearance, make sure Misty when she leaves actually leaves to pursue her dream goal of becoming a Water Pokémon Master, not be forced back to the gym again. Heck, even use her participating in whatever tournament she appears for her to determine whether or not she needs to continue running the gym or pursue her goal, with her decision depending on how well she does in it.

    And speaking of Kalos, side region or not, special tournament arc or not, Ash had better get at least Top 4 in the Kalos League to make up for the absolute unmitigated disaster that was the Unova League (since he basically sunk down to Kanto's level, literally. Forget winning a league, forget using his old Pokémon, all I ask is that he at least get an increase in rank to show he is getting better. Was causing him to lose in a spectacularly horrible fashion in Unova truly necessary? Good grief... Even the Hoenn League was far better in results than the Unova League, and before Unova, that was the worst League result ever due to Ash not advancing. True, he did at least maintain his Johto ranking, but that's still not a good outcome especially regarding demonstrating that he had improved.).
     
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    To weedle_mchairybug:
    Regarding Misty i suppose since her story, uresolved fears and dreams of becoming water pokemon master weren't developed enough to allow for ending not meeting requirements to go from point A to point B unfortunately, writers had to come up with way to write her out viewing gym i guess as only viable option at that time. Explaining abrupt, out of blue departure taking it over and staying out of necessity and obligation as was showed afterwards.
    Never indicating in any way that she gave up on her dreams of becoming master and living up to idol Lorelei from E4, but aso feeling its her responsibility and duty to take care of gym until adequate substitute is found being able to leave it to thrusty hands. Expressing sadness and displease with her older sister actions of not being able to count on them to take care of things in case she wants to travel to advance her own goals and learn new things.

    I presume reasoning behind unfinished dreams and plots which formed Misty story accompanied with uncleared situation regarding gym delivering catch 22 situation was made from writers part on purpose to have way to easily bring her back in case they ever felt need to do it. Likely because at that time they werebn't sure in what direction to take anime keeping Misty as backup option in case they ever felt need to further character and her story forward- but since they didn't had any plans to do something with Misty in past is reason why whole situation with older sisters was left unresolved with Misty plots which form story being left to hang in air leaving direction in which things will pan out for her in future undefined and unresolved.

    However on positive side whole pending status of Misty story which was largely left undefined and unfinished, unset position in which writers put her currently being unknown if she will eventually follow Wallace and other experts footsteps going on journey to advance her dreams and rank up as trainer provides easy way for writers to bring her back with purpose of continuing from where they stopped without being tied back by anything.

    Hence why in my opinion in case of special tournaments taking place after Kalos region occurs would be ideal setting for Misty to become relevant to pokemon anime again. Since judging by wording of sea priestess Maya from Whirl Cup and whole connection between Alpha OMega of water pokemon with title of water masters reveals how participating and winning prestigue tournaments is mandatory to prove your worth to other trainers and test out your bond with pokemon and battle skills in coming closer toward this dream. And learn about more profined, sophisticated ways of training and developing strategy with your pokemon by observing other experts bringing her closer toward E4 level of strength.

    Speaking of Ash its unfortunate how he flopped in skill level and achievements in Unova league, which was nusproduct of writers attempting to make some sort of semi reboot. To better go with BW games mantra of new start experiencing drastic revamp compared to previous generations(like exclusion of contests, no older pokemon in BW1 games or ties to previous sagas).

    However there exist such thing as going overboard with attempt of making anime product closest to games as possible for promotional purposes, to the point of directly perturbing quality of storyline and sense of following.

    Being overlooked fact how one of main reasons why people even follow pokemon is because its supposed to be treated as big on going story which continues on itself, follows progression of driving force Ash going on venture in exploring regions, various cultures and makes steps forward in becoming pokemon master. While keeps ties with history and previous events using them as vector to help push things forward.

    Granted as far as continuity goes and paying attention to previous companions or past writers are doing pretty bad job in making it acknowledged. Burying companions in past unfinished with wasted or unused potential along with keeping main plot in stagnation. But at least Ash was making progression doing better placing in leagues feeling like things are while at snail pace moving somewhere.

    Either way it seems writers mitigated what i considered mistake with pokemon series becoming slightly more continuity based with Ash seeming more mature and competent now in Kalos burning with fire of becoming pokemon master and winning league more than ever. If his dialogue to his mother and afterwards in current XY series is something to go by. So maybe this time he leaves notable trace on Kalos region making exceptionally big success at league, tournaments and various challenes which may occur later down the road in whatever filler saga comes afterwards. Along with format of competitions or tasks it introduce within itself, working under presumption there will be any.
     
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    To weedle_mchairybug:
    Regarding Misty i suppose since her story, uresolved fears and dreams of becoming water pokemon master weren't developed enough to allow for ending not meeting requirements to go from point A to point B unfortunately, writers had to come up with way to write her out viewing gym i guess as only viable option at that time. Explaining abrupt, out of blue departure taking it over and staying out of necessity and obligation as was showed afterwards.
    Never indicating in any way that she gave up on her dreams of becoming master and living up to idol Lorelei from E4, but aso feeling its her responsibility and duty to take care of gym until adequate substitute is found being able to leave it to thrusty hands. Expressing sadness and displease with her older sister actions of not being able to count on them to take care of things in case she wants to travel to advance her own goals and learn new things.

    I presume reasoning behind unfinished dreams and plots which formed Misty story accompanied with uncleared situation regarding gym delivering catch 22 situation was made from writers part on purpose to have way to easily bring her back in case they ever felt need to do it. Likely because at that time they werebn't sure in what direction to take anime keeping Misty as backup option in case they ever felt need to further character and her story forward- but since they didn't had any plans to do something with Misty in past is reason why whole situation with older sisters was left unresolved with Misty plots which form story being left to hang in air leaving direction in which things will pan out for her in future undefined and unresolved.

    However on positive side whole pending status of Misty story which was largely left undefined and unfinished, unset position in which writers put her currently being unknown if she will eventually follow Wallace and other experts footsteps going on journey to advance her dreams and rank up as trainer provides easy way for writers to bring her back with purpose of continuing from where they stopped without being tied back by anything.

    Hence why in my opinion in case of special tournaments taking place after Kalos region occurs would be ideal setting for Misty to become relevant to pokemon anime again. Since judging by wording of sea priestess Maya from Whirl Cup and whole connection between Alpha OMega of water pokemon with title of water masters reveals how participating and winning prestigue tournaments is mandatory to prove your worth to other trainers and test out your bond with pokemon and battle skills in coming closer toward this dream. And learn about more profined, sophisticated ways of training and developing strategy with your pokemon by observing other experts bringing her closer toward E4 level of strength.

    Yeah, you're right. The fact that she occasionally leaves the gym, even delaying from returning, shows she doesn't really like running it. And Maya did point that out about Water Pokémon Masters as well, so its not like there wasn't an already established precedent. Besides, based on Ash's overall actions, I doubt becoming a gym leader would get you anywhere close to becoming a Pokémon Master, in general or in a specific field.

    Kalos had better do something to include Misty (and again, based on Mayumi Iizuka's tweet, she's definitely going to be making some sort of appearance in the anime), and especially make sure that, at the very least, she doesn't have to return to the gym if she can't return permanently.

    Speaking of Ash its unfortunate how he flopped in skill level and achievements in Unova league, which was nusproduct of writers attempting to make some sort of semi reboot. To better go with BW games mantra of new start experiencing drastic revamp compared to previous generations(like exclusion of contests, no older pokemon in BW1 games or ties to previous sagas).

    However there exist such thing as going overboard with attempt of making anime product closest to games as possible for promotional purposes, to the point of directly perturbing quality of storyline and sense of following.

    Being overlooked fact how one of main reasons why people even follow pokemon is because its supposed to be treated as big on going story which continues on itself, follows progression of driving force Ash going on venture in exploring regions, various cultures and makes steps forward in becoming pokemon master. While keeps ties with history and previous events using them as vector to help push things forward.

    Granted as far as continuity goes and paying attention to previous companions or past writers are doing pretty bad job in making it acknowledged. Burying companions in past unfinished with wasted or unused potential along with keeping main plot in stagnation. But at least Ash was making progression doing better placing in leagues feeling like things are while at snail pace moving somewhere.

    Either way it seems writers mitigated what i considered mistake with pokemon series becoming slightly more continuity based with Ash seeming more mature and competent now in Kalos burning with fire of becoming pokemon master and winning league more than ever. If his dialogue to his mother and afterwards in current XY series is something to go by. So maybe this time he leaves notable trace on Kalos region making exceptionally big success at league, tournaments and various challenes which may occur later down the road in whatever filler saga comes afterwards. Along with format of competitions or tasks it introduce within itself, working under presumption there will be any.

    I might as well make a correction to what I said, he actually got Top 8 instead of Top 16 in Unova, but even still, his decreasing in rank was just a terrible way to end the league. At least have him retain Top 4 if not get even better. I wouldn't say Ash got better during Hoenn (he retained Top 8. It took us until two whole leagues for him to actually improve), but even that was better than Unova, as at least he didn't decrease in rank.

    And yeah, they really went overboard with the whole reboot method in the anime. Just because the games did a near-total reboot didn't mean they needed to reboot the anime as well just to match up. And they didn't even do it right when they included Delilah Ketchum, Professor Oak, Team Rocket (both JJM and the entire organization, especially Giovanni), and especially Ash and Pikachu. If they wanted to ensure a reboot, they need to use a completely new cast. Yes, that even means replacing Ash and Pikachu, since that's the ONLY way the stuff in Unova could be justifiable, if Ash and co. weren't there at all. Completely clean slate. Still, from what I can gather, Kalos may be doing better with continuity now, at least compared to Unova.

    Probably the only good things about Unova are that the writers ironically managed to remember Ash's original team (even if they only appeared in flashbacks, at least its better than not appearing at all). They definitely need to make a side arc tournament, possibly the aforementioned Gym Leader tournament to give Misty the excuse to reappear, or heck, even a Whirl Cup-style tournament, again just to have Misty appear and decide whether to continue being a gym leader or whether it is time for her to actually resume her journey. She can't become a Water Pokémon Master if she's cooped up in a gym (if anything, she'll stagnate to the point that she'll lose like JJM did in episode 3 of the original series, remember how badly they lost?).
     
    I am not going to read everything, but Unova was a complete reboot. That is probably one of the main reasons he went backwards. I highly doubt Ash will win, but I do agree, with this being a lot like Hoenn was, I hope there is a Arc after the league where Ash actually wins. I would love to have another series like Orange Islands. That would be awesome. But change the rules a bit. Maybe a double battle tournament and Ash brings out some of his older pokemon and evolves more.
     
    Honestly , I start to hate Tournament ark even since BW series !
    Those ark are simply Director/Writer's way to ignore other character development and make them win those tournament in order to make everyone think how fair Pokemon Anime stuff are.
     
    But you don't even know what they'd do with a tournament arc now? XY has proven itself to be very very different from BW and that would certainly carry over into an additional arc. Tournament arcs could actually be a great catalyst for character development; we all know BW lacked that in its writing, but its tournaments at least gave us character interaction, which was sort of on the right path. Now just make that interaction meaningful and ya got it.
     
    I still would love to see a double battle tournament arc, but I somewhat agree what Famon says. I think a Double Battle Arc, like Orange Islands should come out. This would be a great time for that because of the remakes of Hoenn games, and that is when they were first introed.

    This tournament, could help develop Ash's other pokemon that have yet to evolve.
     
    DOUBLE BATTLES YES PLEASE

    I don't even care if it ends up as a tournament; we just need more double and tag battles around. They were so, so good in AG and DP and the few in BW were great even despite the lackluster other battles. Such good bonding for Pokémon and trainers and a whole different kind of strategy to explore.

    A+ IDEA BACKING 300%
     
    I am not going to read everything, but Unova was a complete reboot. That is probably one of the main reasons he went backwards. I highly doubt Ash will win, but I do agree, with this being a lot like Hoenn was, I hope there is a Arc after the league where Ash actually wins. I would love to have another series like Orange Islands. That would be awesome. But change the rules a bit. Maybe a double battle tournament and Ash brings out some of his older pokemon and evolves more.

    It's not a complete reboot. If it were, then Ash, Pikachu, Team Rocket (both the organization as a whole and the main trio), Professor Oak, Delia, and the like would not even be in the series at all. A complete reboot is completely and utterly destroying the old canon in favor of a completely new canon. That means effectively omnicide.
     
    I am not going to read everything, but Unova was a complete reboot. That is probably one of the main reasons he went backwards. I highly doubt Ash will win, but I do agree, with this being a lot like Hoenn was, I hope there is a Arc after the league where Ash actually wins. I would love to have another series like Orange Islands. That would be awesome. But change the rules a bit. Maybe a double battle tournament and Ash brings out some of his older pokemon and evolves more.
    I don't see the Unova series as a reboot at all. Ash is still the main character, and his past his still there. Also he has all his old pokémon that he caught. The only reason why people see the Unova series as a reboot is because Ash still being 10, which doesn't makes sense, especially since it was only mentioned in the dub, which doesn't count for me.

    Also the Orange Islands were redone with the Decolore Islands. The only diference was that it had no Gyms and Pokémon League.
     
    I don't see the Unova series as a reboot at all. Ash is still the main character, and his past his still there. Also he has all his old pokémon that he caught. The only reason why people see the Unova series as a reboot is because Ash still being 10, which doesn't makes sense, especially since it was only mentioned in the dub, which doesn't count for me.

    Also the Orange Islands were redone with the Decolore Islands. The only diference was that it had no Gyms and Pokémon League.

    And even IF Ash still being 10 was in the Japanese version, it should be noted that all promotional materials for AG and DP mentioned that Ash was 10 in those instances and thus wouldn't qualify as a reboot.

    That being said, Ash seemed like a total idiot in BW, even more than usual, I mean. He almost acted like his Kanto self, which at least had inexperience as an excuse.
     
    And even IF Ash still being 10 was in the Japanese version, it should be noted that all promotional materials for AG and DP mentioned that Ash was 10 in those instances and thus wouldn't qualify as a reboot.

    That being said, Ash seemed like a total idiot in BW, even more than usual, I mean. He almost acted like his Kanto self, which at least had inexperience as an excuse.

    And I'm not sure but I think there was an episode before the johto journeys were Ash celebretated his birthday, and the Pikachu short of the 3rd showed that it passed 1 year since they first met.

    And talking about the tournament I still sthink using a Pokémon of every region would be an awesome idea.
     
    I believe it was said in an interview that Unova was a reboot. I don't have proof, so believe what you want. But it was also said at the same time when they said 5th gen would last for 3 years and that is about how long it lasted. I call it a reboot because Ash only had Pikachu, he lost Volt Tackle for Quick Attack. He didn't know any pokemon. And he seemed like he did not know what he was doing half the time. Especially at the 4th Gym.
     
    I believe it was said in an interview that Unova was a reboot. I don't have proof, so believe what you want. But it was also said at the same time when they said 5th gen would last for 3 years and that is about how long it lasted. I call it a reboot because Ash only had Pikachu, he lost Volt Tackle for Quick Attack. He didn't know any pokemon. And he seemed like he did not know what he was doing half the time. Especially at the 4th Gym.

    Maybe it was said in an interview but knowing the definition of reboot I don't agree with whoever said it is at all.

    For the Unova series to be a reboot, the story must be told as a completly new beginning. Which means everything that happened in the past didn't exist. Ash (or any other main charachter) made his first journey in the Pokémon word in Unova, and he get's his first Pokémon in region. Every Badge and Pokémon Ash got before shouldn't exist in the B/W series, but he even called back his Charizard.

    The Kanto, Johto, Hoenn and Sinnoh series are part of B/W Ash's past, which means no continuity was discarded.

    And Ash having Pikachu doesn't means anything, he also had only him in Hoenn and it wasn't a reboot. Ash did know the old Pokémon, he did use his Pokedex on Pokémon he already saw even in Kanto, not to mention that Ash in every region has amateur moments.

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    Honestly , I start to hate Tournament ark even since BW series !
    Those ark are simply Director/Writer's way to ignore other character development and make them win those tournament in order to make everyone think how fair Pokemon Anime stuff are.

    I didn't see this post before so I answer now.

    If you only begun to hate tournaments since Unova then it is because you liked the past ones.

    Just because the Unova tournaments were awful it doesn't means that the Kalos tournaments will be bad either, also the Kalos series is looking great by now.

    It just looks a great oportunity to give some attention to every main region shown to the core series and each regions Pokémon.
     
    I didn't see this post before so I answer now.

    If you only begun to hate tournaments since Unova then it is because you liked the past ones.

    Just because the Unova tournaments were awful it doesn't means that the Kalos tournaments will be bad either, also the Kalos series is looking great by now.

    It just looks a great oportunity to give some attention to every main region shown to the core series and each regions Pokémon.

    I liked those Tournament because I believe there going to be a Tournament ark for Ash.
    But BW series confirmed that Its a ''Taboo'' for Ash to have Tournament ark . He's only allow to win minor Tournament that least only one episode.
    Just like its a ''Taboo'' for Ash to win League conference ! Or him beating the first rival who appear in first 3 episode of the series until the league even if he's a COMPLETE ROOKIE .
    Or Ash beating any Lucario trainer and prove his bond with Pikachu to be stronger then the Lucario's bond with its trainer .
    Ash gets a Taboo in every series . All other Protagonist (including other Pokemon Protagonist) break their limit while Ash gain new limitation .
    Thats Writer/Director way of being unpredictable .They believe if they ignore every good thing fans expect then the story will be unpredictable.
    For example :
    --Fan Expection : Ash will atleast win one major Tournament in Unova
    --Fan Prediction : Ash will lost the League .
    Ash didn't won a single Tournament as expected but he did lose the league as predicted .
    Thats how writer think .
    Another example :
    --Fan Prediction : Ash will lose Unova League .
    --Fan Expectation : But Ash will lose the League honorably
    Fans were ready for ash to lose the League but they were expecting a honorable defect . So the Director/Writer give Ash the most pathetic and dishonorable defect to prove themself creative & unpredictable.
    Thats their way, Pokemon Writer/director simply screw and ignore every good thing Fans expect but follow every single Prediction !
    Those idiots doesn't even know that when Fan have high exception & really look forward but it does come true then its take away their desire to see the rest .
    Thats why Pokemon failed to keep their high rating and ''XY series debut'' got lesser rating the other debut while XY030 (Korrina's debut) failed to make the top ten .
    Because Since Fans no longer expect Ash to win Any League or Major Tournament , So if Ash doesn't have Megevolution & Lucario then the only thing to look forward to is Froakie's evolution .
    So I have no interest in seeing some pointless time-wasting Tournament ark that Ash will never win!
    FYI : Sinnoh Tag-Battle Tournament doesn't because Ash was allowed win due to Paul being his Tag-partner .
     
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    I liked those Tournament because I believe there going to be a Tournament ark for Ash.
    But BW series confirmed that Its a ''Taboo'' for Ash to have Tournament ark . He's only allow to win minor Tournament that least only one episode.
    Just like its a ''Taboo'' for Ash to win League conference ! Or him beating the first rival who appear in first 3 episode of the series until the league even if he's a COMPLETE ROOKIE .
    Or Ash beating any Lucario trainer and prove his bond with Pikachu to be stronger then the Lucario's bond with its trainer .
    Ash gets a Taboo in every series . All other Protagonist (including other Pokemon Protagonist) break their limit while Ash gain new limitation .
    Thats Writer/Director way of being unpredictable .They believe if they ignore every good thing fans expect then the story will be unpredictable.
    For example :
    --Fan Expection : Ash will atleast win one major Tournament in Unova
    --Fan Prediction : Ash will lost the League .
    Ash didn't won a single Tournament as expected but he did lose the league as predicted .
    Thats how writer think .
    Another example :
    --Fan Prediction : Ash will lose Unova League .
    --Fan Expectation : But Ash will lose the League honorably
    Fans were ready for ash to lose the League but they were expecting a honorable defect . So the Director/Writer give Ash the most pathetic and dishonorable defect to prove themself creative & unpredictable.
    Thats their way, Pokemon Writer/director simply screw and ignore every good thing Fans expect but follow every single Prediction !
    Those idiots doesn't even know that when Fan have high exception & really look forward but it does come true then its take away their desire to see the rest .
    Thats why Pokemon failed to keep their high rating and ''XY series debut'' got lesser rating the other debut while XY030 (Korrina's debut) failed to make the top ten .
    Because Since Fans no longer expect Ash to win Any League or Major Tournament , So if Ash doesn't have Megevolution & Lucario then the only thing to look forward to is Froakie's evolution .
    So I have no interest in seeing some pointless time-wasting Tournament ark that Ash will never win!
    FYI : Sinnoh Tag-Battle Tournament doesn't because Ash was allowed win due to Paul being his Tag-partner .
    And now you think that Ash will loose every tournament which could make that Ash wins one atleast ^^.

    But when I thought of this special tournament arc, I thought of it as a Kalos series finale Tournament, where Ash wins it. but the arc wouldn't be just the tournament, Ash would have to qualify with badges or something like that.

    It would have all generation games protagonists (with the exception of Red, since Ash is based on him, and Blue, having Gary instead) and Ash would battle some of them.
     
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