There's just not enough spac (YGO RMD)

[Alter Ego]

Yes, that title is intentional, and yes, a certain staff member's user title may have inspired it. *Brick'd*

Anyways, I've been having a lot of fun with this deck, but I wanted to ask for ways to make it better at what it does. I originally made it to level up Curran (yay for duel spirits with semi-usable effects), but then I just got hooked on its control freakyness. This is for Spirit Caller, as usual, so take the corresponding banlist and card library into account:

Monsters (14)
2x Bowganian
2x Des Koala
2x Ebon Magician Curran
3x Mystic Tomato
1x Sangan
1x Spirit Reaper
3x Stealth Bird

Spells (13)
1x Book of Moon
1x Confiscation
1x Graceful Charity
1x Level Limit - Area B
3x Messenger of Peace
1x Mystical Space Typhoon
1x Sealed Gold Coffer
1x Swords of Revealing Light
3x Wave-Motion Cannon

Traps (15)
1x Gravity Bind
2x Mask of Restrict
1x Mirror Force
3x Ojama Trio
1x Ring of Destruction
3x Spatial Collapse
1x Torrential Tribute
3x Waboku

If you're going to say 'bad topdeck' then please go shoot yourself now and spare me the trouble. <.< So anyway, the aim of this deck is to lock up my opponent's plays completely by the lovable effect of Spatial Collapse (For those not familiar with this card, it's a continuous trap that prevents anyone who already has five cards on their field from playing any more cards) and then burn away their life points either by spamming burn monster effects or by WMC. Ideally, I'll want to lead with two copies Ojama Trio and one copy Spatial, in which case I can chain the three of them on my opponent's first turn and lock them out of the game completely (since ojama tokens count as cards on your field) but of course this doesn't always happen, so I'm also running Mask of Restrict to prevent disruption of the lock by means of tribute summons or similar things and the usual stall cards to turn my opponent's attacking monsters into dead cards on the field.

So yeah, suggestions, please? I want to keep Spatial Collapse since it's the coolest thing I've seen since Satellite Cannon, but if you have any ideas for making it work better, I'd love to hear them. :3 And yes, I know there's a blatant Jinzo/Decree weak here, but I'm not sure how to best tackle it. >.<

 

[Scarlet Weather]

Wave motion cannon without Skill Drain? This is madness! No- this is ALTER EGOOOOOOOOOOOOO.....

Okay, only suggestion is -2 Mask of Restrict, +2 Nightmare Steelcage for better stall purposes. I don't know whether that particular card is in Spirit Caller, but then again I don't know a lot of things. Carry on. XD

 

[Marauding Master]

Wave motion cannon without Skill Drain? This is madness! No- this is ALTER EGOOOOOOOOOOOOO.....

Okay, only suggestion is -2 Mask of Restrict, +2 Nightmare Steelcage for better stall purposes. I don't know whether that particular card is in Spirit Caller, but then again I don't know a lot of things. Carry on. XD

Nightmare Steelcage sucks if you run 3 Messenger of Peace.

 

[Alter Ego]

Helpful post as usual, I see. Did you intend to actually help or does posting stuff like that just give you a warm, fuzzy feeling?

Actually, don't answer that. Your post speaks for itself. Even though it may not have been the best call, ACC actually made a suggestion, why not try to follow that example for a change?

But ACC, it's not the stall part that's causing me problems; it's Decree/Jinzo (with a trap count of 15, those things are a serious nuisance). Also, I'd rather keep the mask since it keeps monarchs and other pesky tribute monsters that could break the lock out of my hair. I can't always draw into Ojama Trio in time, you know, and my opponent could have a set Enemy Controller or something too (The monster control effect would cut their card count down by two, giving more than enough room to maneuver). Plus, it also prevents my opponent from tribute summoning for Jinzo. I'd sooner cut Waboku to be honest. :x

So like, anyone have anything to say in that regard? I've considered Dust Tornado and Solemn, but since they're both traps they can't deal with Decree if it's already on the field, Twister wasn't in the card library last I checked, and that would still leave Book of Moon as my only Jinzo counter-measure too. Unless I get lucky with Confiscation.

 

[Scarlet Weather]

*Is Touched* I feel that warm and fuzzy feeling that isn't remotely related to a mental illness inside after that compliment of sorts, AE, I really do...

Decree givin' ya grief, eh? Well then, step into my office...

Well, without Twister you can't really nail decree in a stall deck like this. My best suggestion would be to run a few copies of a monster that likes blowing up traps or something in your sidedeck. (Honestly, the only monster I can think of who likes bombing traps is Armed Ninja. I think it's Armed Ninja. It's an old card, so it'll probably be included.) Exiled force and D.D. Assailant might mess up your ability to burn the opponent for damage, but either one of those could serve as a removal agent for Jinzo. Alternatively, you could always try to speed up Spatial Collapse's lovable lockdown effect. In this deck, you could almost wish for a copy of whatever that card Kaiba used in that horrible 4Kids movie was, Obligatory Summon, I think? Slap that and a copy of Level Limit Area-B or G-Bind down to lock the opponent's moves and you've got a situational complete stall right there. XD

To be honest, there's a reason I prefer beating people over the head rather than stalling them. I just stink at stall. Anyway, that's all I can think of to say on the subject for now. XD

 

[Frostweaver]

The problem lies in more to the fact that I don't know what the heck is available in spirit caller x.x; But I think jinzo is at 1 and decree is at 3 here? For starter, add the 3 solemn judgment anyway. Better to destroy them before they're even out, plus it stops heavy storm or whatever they can possibly throw at you. What stall decks don't use solemn anyway? o_O

 

[Marauding Master]

Helpful post as usual, I see. Did you intend to actually help or does posting stuff like that just give you a warm, fuzzy feeling?

Actually, don't answer that. Your post speaks for itself. Even though it may not have been the best call, ACC actually made a suggestion, why not try to follow that example for a change?.

I'm sorry I don't fit in your happy-go-lucky type of posting but unlike some of these morons, I actually know what I'm talking about. Either way, I like how you reply to every post I make. That's the real thing that gives me a warm, fuzzy feeling. I thought someone with your intelligence would realize that and ignore me. Haha, guess not. Anyway, as to not be a blockade for your posting whoregasms, a fix for you. I don't know if this is all available in this game and I'm not going to check.

-3 Wobaku
+3 Solemn Judgment

-2 Mask of Restrict
+2 Reckless Greed

-1 Confiscation
+1 Wall of Revealing Light(Out of those 2 LP costing options, I'd definitely go for that, especially backed with Solems)

-1 Book of Moon
+1 Crush Card Virus(With all those low Darks, go for it!)

If you wish, to make it 40:
-1 Mystic Tomato(I honestly don't see the point of them in a deck with THIS much stall)
-1 Tor(Any excuse to keep Trios on the field is a good one)

 

[Scarlet Weather]

I'm sorry I don't fit in your happy-go-lucky type of posting but unlike some of these morons, I actually know what I'm talking about. Either way, I like how you reply to every post I make. That's the real thing that gives me a warm, fuzzy feeling. I thought someone with your intelligence would realize that and ignore me. Haha, guess not. Anyway, as to not be a blockade for your posting whoregasms, a fix for you. I don't know if this is all available in this game and I'm not going to check.

Okay... that was just... what the crap? I'm not a moron, dingus. I'm just no good at children's card games. Hello? Earth to MM? That's what YGO is. And your posts are really pretty unhelpful. After all, when we criticize we at least do it constructively. You, on the other hand, seem to have no problem with insulting other people. Would it kill you to be civil? I mean, I'd love to listen to your advice but your elitist attitude makes me feel like grabbing your precious deck and burning it, card by card, in front of your eyes just to see your reaction. Oh, and last I checked calling someone a moron usually destroys any chance that they'll ever listen to you about anything. There's a little thing called "diplomacy". Learn to use it.

-3 Wobaku
+3 Solemn Judgment

Didn't Frosty suggest that already? 0_o

-2 Mask of Restrict
+2 Reckless Greed

-1 Confiscation
+1 Wall of Revealing Light(Out of those 2 LP costing options, I'd definitely go for that, especially backed with Solems)

Are you some kind of nutter? Three solemns and a wall only work if you throw out the wall first. Chances are, however, that you'll be grabbing solemns first in which case you'll probably be using them up before WoRL hits play. When your life points have been cut in half, Wall is basically halved in its usefulness. Three solemns and one wall usually equals suicide in LP costs, I thought. 0_o

-1 Book of Moon
+1 Crush Card Virus(With all those low Darks, go for it!)

If you wish, to make it 40:
-1 Mystic Tomato(I honestly don't see the point of them in a deck with THIS much stall)
-1 Tor(Any excuse to keep Trios on the field is a good one)

Honestly, I'd say the only profitable thing you just did was to suggest CCV as a counter for Jinzo. Thanks so much for the gratuitous insult and the edgy attitude. Please, sir, if you want to be angsty while playing card games then go find someone else to insult. I bite.

 

[Frostweaver]

Wall of Revealing Light and 3 Solemn are just fine. Heck, 3 Wall of Revealing Light were up together with 3 Solemn back then when they are available in some of the decks >>; Wall of Revealing Light is like a permanent Swords of Revealing Light with high cost. Plus, you really ought to use Solemn a lot more sparingly than that early game. If it's just zaborg blowing up your Stealth bird early game, I'll rather just take the 2400, and keep solemn for more important things. If it's Jinzo coming down, I'm using Solemn regardless of whatever the situation is (for this deck, at least.)

I think Wall is fine here. Plenty of low star monsters, or monsters with less than 1500 atk are pretty destructive... Don Zaloog, Reaper, and other blahblah. Wall stops them all while no other stalls can. With this much amount of stall, use 3000 LP call for wall or 2000 if you can't pay for it all even if you get down to say 500 LP (as long as you see Ring in the graveyard already of course). You really should be able to protect the wall for a darn long amount of time with all these negations and blocks.

If all goes wrong, it becomes an obvious choice of what to throw with graceful?

Taking out Mystic Tomato by 1 sounds like a plan... with all the stall, they really don't have much of a chance.

 

[Alter Ego]

Well, this is more like it. =D

And yeah, I wouldn't really be paying for anything besides Wall and Solemn, I'm not attacking at all so I don't run the risk of taking surprise damage on that front, and odds are that I'd find myself blocking the pesky low-Atk monsters that feature in basically every ingame deck (too weak for Messenger, too low level for Gravity Bind/Level Limit) and even the random Burstinatrix craze on wi-fi (seriously, every opponent I've run into there thus far has had Burstinatrix in their deck o.O) so I can still afford wall even after having pulled a solemn. If I pull wall first I'll still be paying half all the time, so it won't matter then.

And...it's true that the Tomatos have been clogging. Fine then,

-1 Book of Moon
-1 Confiscation
-2 Mask of Restrict
-1 Mystic Tomato
-1 Ring of Destruction
-3 Waboku

+1 Crush Card Virus
+2 Reckless Greed
+3 Solemn Judgment
+1 Wall of Revealing Light


Not dropping Torrential, though. I know that it kills the tokens, but it's an emergency reset button in case my opponent breaks through, and because Collapse can't be activated if there are more than five cards on either field, I sometimes need to wipe the slate and start anew. I think I'll sooner drop ring, since between Wall and Solemn that's liable to be too small to wipe out what I need to be rid off. Besides, I don't need the burn from it to finish my opponent off. So final decklist:

Monsters (13)
2x Bowganian
2x Des Koala
2x Ebon Magician Curran
2x Mystic Tomato
1x Sangan
1x Spirit Reaper
3x Stealth Bird

Spells (11)
1x Graceful Charity
1x Level Limit - Area B
3x Messenger of Peace
1x Mystical Space Typhoon
1x Sealed Gold Coffer
1x Swords of Revealing Light
3x Wave-Motion Cannon

Traps (16)
1x Crush Card Virus
1x Gravity Bind
1x Mirror Force
3x Ojama Trio
2x Reckless Greed
3x Solemn Judgment
3x Spatial Collapse
1x Torrential Tribute
1x Wall of Revealing Light

Oh my, and I thought the trap count was high before. Oh well, going to try this out. x3