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5th Gen Third Game legendary

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Forever said:
Aww, I thought the discussion of the amount of legends was over. :( Discus it in the New Legendaries thread.

And nooo, cobra is green. ;; I want white...or grey looking for the mascot :D
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It might end up being a rainbow pokemon(or has ho-oh already taken that one)
 
Not sure if it's been already announced but I speculate that the game will be called Pokemon Grey.

It won't be Zorua fox thing. I imagine in keeping with the legendaries for Black and White, one of the unannounced legendaries will be grey and so will be on the cover.
 
Ok, the Dragon Ice confounds me. It is set up like a third, but its attack list doesn't match up the way it is supposed to and its base stat total is less than Zekrom and Reshiram's.

This thing is driving me crazy.

Level[c]Reshiram[c]Zekrom[c]Kyuremu[c]
[ -- ][c]Fire Fang[c]Thunder Fang[c]Icy Wind[c]
[ -- ][c]Dragon Rage[c]Dragon Rage[c]Dragon Rage[c]
[8][c]Imprison[c]Imprison[c]Imprison[c]
[15][c]Ancient Power[c]Ancient Power[c]Ancient Power[c]
[22][c]Flamethrower[c]Thunderbolt[c]Icebeam[c]
[29][c]Dragon Breath[c]Dragon Breath[c]Dragon Breath[c]
[36][c]Slash[c]Slash[c]Slash[c]
[43][c]Extrasensory[c]Zen Headbutt[c]Scary Face[c]
[50][c]Unknown[c]Unknown[c]Unknown[c]
[54][c]Dragon Pulse[c]Dragon Claw[c]Dragon Pulse[c]
[64][c]Imprison[c]Imprison[c]Imprison[c]
[71][c]Crunch[c]Crunch[c]Endeavor[c]
[78][c]Fire Blast[c]Thunder[c]Blizzard[c]
[85][c]Outrage[c]Outrage[c]Outrage[c]
[92][c]Hyper voice[c]Huper Voice[c]Hyper Voice[c]
[100][c]Unkown[c]Unknown[c]NO ATTACK

Ok so out of 16 attacks, 12 match up fine. The other 3 that the Ice does have don't match up. It may actually be 11 and not 12 cause there is still the unknown attack.

So what the hell is Kyuremu compared to Zekrom and Reshiam?

Their base stat total is 685 and Kyuremu is 660.

I know that Rayquaza is different, but Rayquaza was the master of his trio so his extra 10 is valid, but this dragon is too weak and doesn't match well. What the hell?
 
XanderO said:
Ok, the Dragon Ice confounds me. It is set up like a third, but its attack list doesn't match up the way it is supposed to and its base stat total is less than Zekrom and Reshiram's.

This thing is driving me crazy.

Level[c]Reshiram[c]Zekrom[c]Kyuremu[c]
[ -- ][c]Fire Fang[c]Thunder Fang[c]Icy Wind[c]
[ -- ][c]Dragon Rage[c]Dragon Rage[c]Dragon Rage[c]
[8][c]Imprison[c]Imprison[c]Imprison[c]
[15][c]Ancient Power[c]Ancient Power[c]Ancient Power[c]
[22][c]Flamethrower[c]Thunderbolt[c]Icebeam[c]
[29][c]Dragon Breath[c]Dragon Breath[c]Dragon Breath[c]
[36][c]Slash[c]Slash[c]Slash[c]
[43][c]Extrasensory[c]Zen Headbutt[c]Scary Face[c]
[50][c]Unknown[c]Unknown[c]Unknown[c]
[54][c]Dragon Pulse[c]Dragon Claw[c]Dragon Pulse[c]
[64][c]Imprison[c]Imprison[c]Imprison[c]
[71][c]Crunch[c]Crunch[c]Endeavor[c]
[78][c]Fire Blast[c]Thunder[c]Blizzard[c]
[85][c]Outrage[c]Outrage[c]Outrage[c]
[92][c]Hyper voice[c]Huper Voice[c]Hyper Voice[c]
[100][c]Unkown[c]Unknown[c]NO ATTACK

Ok so out of 16 attacks, 12 match up fine. The other 3 that the Ice does have don't match up. It may actually be 11 and not 12 cause there is still the unknown attack.

So what the hell is Kyuremu compared to Zekrom and Reshiam?

Their base stat total is 685 and Kyuremu is 660.

I know that Rayquaza is different, but Rayquaza was the master of his trio so his extra 10 is valid, but this dragon is too weak and doesn't match well. What the hell?
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Well what I'm thinking is that Kyuremu will be like Giratina and get another forme and in this forme it will gain 25 extra to it's base stats and not just redistributed like Giratina's were.
 
Magmaruby and Aquasapphire said:

Well what I'm thinking is that Kyuremu will be like Giratina and get another forme and in this forme it will gain 25 extra to it's base stats and not just redistributed like Giratina's were.
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Seriously doubting that. Plus it doesn't explain why it doesn't have a perfect matching Attack list like all the Trios have. All the other Trios have attack lists that fit perfectly together even when they have different moves in their place. Scary Face is not Zen Headbutt or Extrasensory equivalent and Icy Wind? Why not Ice Fang and balance it out?
 
XanderO said:
Seriously doubting that. Plus it doesn't explain why it doesn't have a perfect matching Attack list like all the Trios have. All the other Trios have attack lists that fit perfectly together even when they have different moves in their place. Scary Face is not Zen Headbutt or Extrasensory equivalent and Icy Wind? Why not Ice Fang and balance it out?
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Hmm well they are not all balanced out check the other trios, like the bird trio.
 
Magmaruby and Aquasapphire said:
Hmm well they are not all balanced out check the other trios, like the bird trio.
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the stats are what is bugging me though.. 25 points between zekrom/reshiram and the ice dragon? its strange. but maybe there is a reason for it. of course it could just be a random dragon and there might not actually be a dragon trio
 
XanderO said:
The Birds are perfectly aligned. There are cases when two learn status and the third learns an attacking attack, but it changes the order two attacks down. They are balanced perfectly.
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It's the same for the Dragon trio...also look at it, it looks half Mecha and half natural!
 
Magmaruby and Aquasapphire said:

It's the same for the Dragon trio...also look at it, it looks half Mecha and half natural!
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The Ice Dragon doesn't match up perfectly with Zekrom and Reshiram at all. Endeavor when it should have had Crunch? Scary Face in place of a damaging Psychic attack? Icy Wind instead of Ice Fang? And its Missing a level 100 Attack.

The Lv 50 attacks are Cross Thunder and Cross Flame, I brain farted on those two, but dunno what the new attack is for the Ice one. If it isn't Cross Frost/Ice or something like that, then there is heavy doubt as to whether if this is a Trio. Right now it doesn't fit well with them.
 
XanderO said:
The Ice Dragon doesn't match up perfectly with Zekrom and Reshiram at all. Endeavor when it should have had Crunch? Scary Face in place of a damaging Psychic attack? Icy Wind instead of Ice Fang? And its Missing a level 100 Attack.

The Lv 50 attacks are Cross Thunder and Cross Flame, I brain farted on those two, but dunno what the new attack is for the Ice one. If it isn't Cross Frost/Ice or something like that, then there is heavy doubt as to whether if this is a Trio. Right now it doesn't fit well with them.
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i'm not sure if they are a trio either. or at least an equal trio. someone suggested the ice one could be a minion of zekrom/reshiram and im beginning to think that may be the case
 
StratusJm said:
i'm not sure if they are a trio either. or at least an equal trio. someone suggested the ice one could be a minion of zekrom/reshiram and im beginning to think that may be the case
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That would have been me. Seeing as its stats and even its attack list is weaker than Zekrom and Reshiram, I came to that conclusion.
 
Why still talk about this when its obviously that one with the long tail on a sort of cloud with all of those form changes..... I knew it the first time I seen the complete dex
 
vkeychain said:
Why still talk about this when its obviously that one with the long tail on a sort of cloud with all of those form changes..... I knew it the first time I seen the complete dex
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-.-. those are 3 different pokemon, they only look alike.
Btw. I seriously doubt that the ice dragon will be the thrid legendary, first of all it doent fits with the rest in the yin-yang story (and it looks ugly) probably we will have only dual legendary here, and the 3rd version mascot will be one of the trio pokemon.
 
I doubt it would be a Pokemon that we already know about. It'll be a completely new legendary. If they come out with a new game, they are going to want to make it look like something we don't have already, so they aren't going to put a Pokemon that we already have on the box art.
 
MrsNorrington said:
I doubt it would be a Pokemon that we already know about. It'll be a completely new legendary. If they come out with a new game, they are going to want to make it look like something we don't have already, so they aren't going to put a Pokemon that we already have on the box art.
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Yeah I don't see why they just couldn't add Pokemon #650 before the third game comes out. But then again you could get Giratina in Diamond and Pearl, so IDK......
 
MrsNorrington said:
I doubt it would be a Pokemon that we already know about. It'll be a completely new legendary. If they come out with a new game, they are going to want to make it look like something we don't have already, so they aren't going to put a Pokemon that we already have on the box art.
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I highly highly doubt that will happen. There might be new form changes but no new pokemon. That has never before happened in pokemon. New pokemon only come out when a new region is released, never added to a previous region.

I agree with Magmaruby, the third game mascot will be the Ice Dragon. It is also a mechanical looking dragon. They do not always have to be perfectly aligned stat wise, look at G/S/C Suicune was the third game mascot and his stats are completely different.
 
I am one that sees Qurem (Kyuremu) as part of the trio. I'm thinking that he will get a form change, a slightly different moveset, and a stat boost in the 3rd game.
 
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