To the MIMEKISS MOBILE!!!

Waffle-San

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    So me and Chatot were putting our heads together and we started brain storming about a Mr. Mime and Togekiss combo. And yes we are aware of Mr. Mime's horrid HP, we just don't care.

    Mr. Mime @Wide Lens
    Filter
    Calm
    192 Spd/188 Sp.Def/128HP
    ~Substitute
    ~Calm Mind
    ~Baton Pass
    ~Hypnosis/Psychic

    Togekiss@Leftovers???
    Serene Grace
    Modest/Timid/Bold
    Whatever the standard Paraflinching set is.
    ~Aura Sphere
    ~Thunderwave
    ~Air Slash
    ~Roost

    or

    Togekiss@Leftovers/CS/CSpecs
    Serene Grace
    Modest/Timid/Bold
    Mainly Sp. Atk and Sp. Def with HP
    ~Aura Sphere
    ~Air Slash
    ~Flamethrower
    ~Shadow Ball

    This bottom one's for more of a sp. Sweeping aspect.

    We know it's a work in project but we believe it could have a good upside. Just thought we'd post it because we've never seen it around.

    Edit: EV Sets would be a HUGE help.
     
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    Adding to what Mr.May has said, the way this works is basically Mr.Mime uses Substitute and Calm Mind and BP's the Calm Mind back to Togekiss. The boost Togekiss receives from Calm Mind will make it a total killing machine!
     
    My cousin is planning on having Mr.Mime, so this helps alot.
     
    Ya he's a favourite of mine but i was having trouble fitting him in.

    It can be both. Be free to add or critize, just don't shoot us down to hard. It's good enough for me but we want to know what everyone else thinks.
     
    I think its both.

    Like it or not, no matter how much you ignore it, Mr.Mime has low HP, making weak Subs. That is NOT something you can ignore.

    I'm not saying its fail, but its not something to disregard.
     
    Ya we know, we wanted to give it more HP but we only have so many EV's. Filter and his Sp. Def just make it worth it though.

    Plus, its making the most of a personal favourite and a pokemon with a combined 480 stats. Bot everything can be perfect :(
     
    Well, Samson is here, he can give a better analysis than I can. Mr.Mime is in no way fail, but its HP...
     
    sims796 said:
    I think its both.

    Like it or not, no matter how much you ignore it, Mr.Mime has low HP, making weak Subs. That is NOT something you can ignore.

    I'm not saying its fail, but its not something to disregard.
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    So so so so so so true. however, if you switch Mr Mime in on say, a weezing (assuming you use decen t prediction and survive the hit)...weezing won't stick around to get killed...they'll obviously switch out, which is when you set up a sub and CM up once or twice...pass the sats to Kiss, and wham. I like the idea.
     
    sims796 said:
    I think its both.

    Like it or not, no matter how much you ignore it, Mr.Mime has low HP, making weak Subs. That is NOT something you can ignore.

    I'm not saying its fail, but its not something to disregard.
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    Exactly. But the most you want to go for is 404 HP, to make a 101 Sub. The max HP Mr.Mime can have is.. 284.. Lol.
     
    Yes we've realised that sadly Itachi, that's why we're trying to get away with giving it some speed.
    Plus we're not trying to make it a wall, just more of a supporter.
    EV sets are our biggest problem. We tried alot of things. woops that's a combined 460 not 480. Why couldn't they have given it 40 more base stats in the HP departement.
     
    I say CM first, Sub later. Problem is, the Sub may break before you can pass it.
     
    if you want mr mime for CM passing, then you're gonna have to give it hypnosis. if you want hypnosis to work, then you'll have to give him wide lens. it's just too weak on the damage-inducing side and not fast enough on the defensive side to NOT use hypnosis.

    you should make togekiss bold considering that it will have to make up for mr mimes physical weakness.

    oh and EDIT: sub is always first, and then hypnosis, and then a couple CMs and then the pass.
     
    Samson said:
    if you want mr mime for CM passing, then you're gonna have to give it hypnosis. if you want hypnosis to work, then you'll have to give him wide lens. it's just too weak on the damage-inducing side and not fast enough on the defensive side to NOT use hypnosis.

    you should make togekiss bold considering that it will have to make up for mr mimes physical weakness.
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    Ya, we definately had that in mind. So Substitute and Hypnosis or just Hypnosis.

    Edit: Saw your edit, feel stupid for asking.
     
    both. sadly, if something with taunt that is faster gets to you, then he becomes useless not having any attacks, but that's why you make him timid with 252 SPD, and a variation of HP and sp def for the last 256 evs.

    good luck ^.^
     
    Hold on. Base 100 SP.ATK is nothing to scoff at. And he has a pretty diverse movepool.

    Chatot, sarcasm will get you nowhere :P
     
    Ya I saw the edit, Taunt's the only reason we had Psychic on there (and because it's STABed).
    So max out his speed at 306. Sounds good. Thanks for the feedback.

    Ooh, i see Sims has been doing research Yay! Ya his Sp. Atk is highly effective which is another reason why we considered Psychic (adnd Thunder bolt and Energy Ball) but it doesn't fit for this peticular usage.
     
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