Towlie is back with a new team! O:

Towlie

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    Alright, I was off of shoddy for about a month, so I got a little rusty. I've been making a lot of teams lately, but this one actually seems like a keeper. I've only been using it a little while, but I like the feel of it. There's bound to be some changes to be made, so fix away!


    The Lineup:

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    Gardevoir (♂) @ Leftovers
    Ability: Trace
    EVs: 252 HP/32 Spd/56 SAtk/168 SDef
    Timid nature (+Spd, -Atk)
    - Psychic
    - Hypnosis
    - Will-o-wisp
    - Thunderbolt

    Double Status Gard lead. Yea, Gengars are a common lead, which forces me to switch to Blissey, but this counters Gyara leads pretty good. (This was the idea, and at first I had Hidden Power Electric on this, forgetting Gardevoir learns Thunderbolt. >_<;)

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    Lucario (♂) @ Choice Scarf
    Ability: Inner Focus
    EVs: 200 Atk/252 Spd/56 SAtk
    Naughty nature (+Atk, -SDef)
    - Hidden Power [Ice]
    - Stone Edge
    - Close Combat
    - Dark Pulse

    MixCario. This is the first team I included a Lucario in. And I really enjoy this set. Hits most stuff for at least neutral. Most people don't expect Scarf on Lucario, so it surprises a lot of stuff. Should I go +Speed nature?

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    Blissey (♀) @ Leftovers
    Ability: Natural Cure
    EVs: 196 HP/252 Def/60 SAtk
    Bold nature (+Def, -Atk)
    - Ice Beam
    - Flamethrower
    - Toxic
    - Softboiled

    O:!

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    Gliscor (♂) @ Leftovers
    Ability: Sand Veil
    EVs: 252 Hp/4 Atk/252 Def
    Impish nature (+Def, -Sp. Atk
    - Earthquake
    - Knock Off
    - Roost
    - Ice Fang

    Gliscor to cover my heraweak.

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    Bronzong @ Leftovers
    Ability: Levitate
    EVs: 252 HP/152 Def/104 SAtk
    Bold nature (+Def, -Atk)
    - Psychic
    - Grass Knot
    - Calm Mind
    - Hypnosis

    CalmZong. At first this was just a filler pokemon, because I needed something immune to Earthquake, and since Swampert has Stealth Rock, I made this into a Calm Mind set. I have to say, I'm surprised that this actually hits stuff for decent damage.

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    Swampert (♂) @ Leftovers
    Ability: Torrent
    EVs: 236 HP/216 Def/56 SAtk
    Relaxed nature (+Def, -Spd)
    - Earthquake
    - Stealth Rock
    - Waterfall
    - Ice Beam

    And finally, Swampert. Really just the standard Swampert. Does what he needs to do, and does it well. Not much to say about it.
     
    It looks really good but you have some raikou troubles, especially HP Grass.
     
    Psychic leads get raped by Weavile. You should lead with ScarfLuke.
     
    Trace is way better to lead with. Weavile leads aren't as common anymore. Plus, if Weavile's do lead, it's a SD variety, which Luke can't counter well anyways.

    As for Raikou, I agree with that if it runs HP Grass, but it commonly runs HP Ice, which swampert can wall fairly easy. If it's HP Grass, Gliscor can wall it pretty good.
     
    Eh, Gliscor is pretty unreliable and if it surprises you with Hidden Power you could be in trouble. But yeah HP Ice is really popular and probably better.

    also Rain Dance teams with the whole Kingdra thing going will be tough on you, especially if they have a good way to take out blissey, but that's true for almost all teams so meh.

    Overall it's actually really good and the walls fit very well together unlike many teams posted here.
     
    Yea, I'll admit, this would have a tough time with a rain team. Thing is, rain teams are so uncommon because of Hippo/TTar.

    And that CalmZong just demolishes teams if they allow me to get a couple CMs in. (Trying to break through zong with special attacks etc.) I'm thinking about going Wish>Softboiled on Blissey. Another thing I like about this team so much is the fact that people are so confused to which pokemon is going to Stealth Rock. Gliscor/Swampert/Bronzong are all common Stealth Rockers, and people expect to switch in a heavy sweeper vs Gliscor while he sets up rocks, but end up getting a Choice item knocked off.
     
    Yeah any Clam Mind thing going that doesn't actually get massacred by Earthquake will really hurt. also CM Zam cna KO a lot of your pokemon and stall out blissey if it has recover.

    Also even though nobody uses it anymore Chain chomp will break through all of your walling easily besides maybe Swampert but a powerful Draco Meteor will just hurt.

    In general it's pretty strong. It counters about as much as you can in DP.
     
    Recover on Alakazam?
    ;o

    The biggest threats to this team are really MixMence and Gyara. I beat a MixMence earlier with Blissey, but Gardy is the only thing I have vs Gyara, which makes me consider going Wish on Blissey. Gardy normally takes ~40% from an Intimidated Waterfall from Gyara.
     
    Towlie said:
    Trace is way better to lead with. Weavile leads aren't as common anymore. Plus, if Weavile's do lead, it's a SD variety, which Luke can't counter well anyways.

    As for Raikou, I agree with that if it runs HP Grass, but it commonly runs HP Ice, which swampert can wall fairly easy. If it's HP Grass, Gliscor can wall it pretty good.
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    Weavile is a very common lead, but it's all up to you if you don't mind losing a poke right from the start. Also, how exactly does lead Scarf Lucario NOT counter Weavile? Close Combat.. lol.
     
    If Gliscor counters Hera, why not Aerial Ace?
     
    Dani_X said:
    If Gliscor counters Hera, why not Aerial Ace?
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    Mostly because Heracross can't really hurt Gliscor unless it's a SD variant and Ice Fang will beat it in a few hits. Actually I prefer AA myself but that's why.

    Also Recover on Zam is really cool but nobody uses it so good point. Recover/CM will beat teams that rely on Blissey too much to wall special attacks, which is a lot of teams.
     
    It won't beat Blissey without Taunt, because Zam hates getting paralyzed, and if you run Recover, Taunt and Calm Mind, you're left with 1 attack. Good luck. =\
     
    Actually Sub/CM/Psychic/Recover works if you support it right but yeah, as a standalone it isn't really that good.
     
    Weavile is only the 10th most common lead. Only 7000~ less usages than the number one lead, Gyarados. To me, that's not a common lead.

    Lucario doesn't counter SD Weaviles, seeing they run Focus Sash. Close Combat, Hangs on with focus sash and brick breaks me for the kill.

    Dani_X: Earthquake does enough to it if I need it. Ice Fang allows coverage, plus when I switch into a Heracross, it's a free Knock Off for me. I never attack Hera with Gliscor unless I know there's nothing that can wall a Gliscor attack.
     
    Ouch.... Spikes is REALLY a pain ><

    Any ideas how you are going to make Lucario break through Bronzong/Skarmory? =P Otherwise, Infernape would be better
     
    Funny you mention that.
    It just broke through a Zong. CC does around 40~ to it.
    Rest is only Zong's form of healing, so it can't switch in very good.

    And Mixape isn't better.
    Every person thinks of Infernape to be a Mixed attacker.
    People see me Dark Pulse and will keep a 100% Blissey in on Luke, assuming they can OHKO with Flamethrower. Then they start WTFing and get all confused.

    On a side note, this team is on at least a 10 game win streak. xD
    EDIT: Just as I said that, I got an error in shoddy.
    I FAIL at gloating.
    xD
     
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    Towlie said:
    Weavile is only the 10th most common lead. Only 7000~ less usages than the number one lead, Gyarados. To me, that's not a common lead.

    Lucario doesn't counter SD Weaviles, seeing they run Focus Sash. Close Combat, Hangs on with focus sash and brick breaks me for the kill.
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    Not all Weavile are focus sash'd.. I actually pity the ones that are. And 10th most common lead isn't that common? Wow.. ok, I'll leave that alone. But that Gardevoir isn't even outspeeding jolly Tyranitar, which is the 4th most common lead on shoddy. Pursuit much?
     
    Focus Sash Weavile is a joke.

    Anyways I'd have to agree that leading with double status is cool and all but with Gardy it just doesn't look good.
     
    Gardy works wonders with Double Status.

    Also, Gardy outspeeds Jolly TTar, dude. That's what the EV spread is meant to do, outspeed TTars and sleep them. ;o

    Also, Focus Sash weavile gives me more trouble than other variations of it.
     
    Well looking at it, what I run on my MixCario is HP Electric over HPIce, that hits the things it cant hit very hard, especially Skarm.

    And I actually like Gardy, he's uber cool. First Pokemon I ever leveled up to level 100. And double status is good, but I would go Careful for a nature.
     
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