3rd Gen Types, is that all?

He meant Dark type attacks, not Dark type pokemon...which I don't use at all because everyone seems to kill them in one hit.
 
err... Tyranitar still survives brick break unless it's STAB O.o; and crunch is quite ok as only steel and dark types are weak to it. Its advantage towards ghost and psychic are quite nice. The only thing that makes dark type moves look sucky is because not too many good sp.sweeper cna learn dark attacks, as they're all stuck on Pokemon with low sp.atk.
 
I generally don't sue dark type moves either, although I think Crunch is pretty descent. I used to use a sharpedo of mine I named "Sharpie" quite a bit before I beat the pokemon league. And he doubled as a pretty good water type too.

I do agree that Dark types are possibly one of the easier ones to beat, but they have more strengths than bug pokemon. Bug pokemon seem to have naturally low stats and can only control the weakest of moves. notice how omst bug pokemon are caught early in teh game, indicating their weak status. If any type should be strengthened, I think it would be those poor, abused and trounced on bug types.
 
Good point about the match in the dark. but even though light isn't opposite of dark, dark does seem to have a weakness to light because dark can't exist in a room that is light but light can exist in a room of dark( of course technically if light is in a room the room should be conidered light reguardless of the amount). Anyway for that reason light type could be a type being super affective to dark.
Dark moves is what I meant, and they don't do much damage. I used to trian dark types until I kept losing to pokemon that learn stronger moves.
 
ahem... how's crunch or pursuit terrible in anyway? They're both excellent moves if you put it on the right stats. Don't sue the moves... sue those crappy Pokemon who learns it (only good crunch/pursuiter: Tyranitar, Houndoom, Salamence, Flygon, Charizard, Raikou)
*note: just because those Pokemon can use crunch well, that doesn't mean they have to use crunch/pursuit, because they just may have even better moves!

Bug types need no boost. Bug Pokemon generally does need it. However bug types are still a lot stronger than grass. Out of the bugs, there's still heracross leading the crowd, with pinsir, scizor, ninjask, Armaldo (more recognized by rock blast rather than being a bug though) and Forretress following behind. Silver wind and megahorn are both very powerful bug attacks, along with HP Bug for nice STAB along with fast speed and good attack power. Type advantage over dark and psychic are quite nice, with a strong point towards Ludicolo as a bonus. It's just the stats of the Pokemon that needs some fixing.

So what's good in grass?

-Breloom, sceptile, Ludicolo, Celebi, Exeggutor, and occassional Venusaur

Though grass types have a higher amount in terms of usable, grass types have major weaknesses to many types (ice, poison, fire, flying for exampel) and there isn't really much good grass moves... notice that all of those listed Pokemon don't really rely on grass damage moves except Exeggutor solarbeam and Sceptile with Leaf blade. Their stats suck just as much, and their type advantage is even worst than bug...
 
Light in a room gives off shadows. Shadows are dark. Dark and Light agaisnt each other should be like Normal vs Ghost and vice versa.
 
That would be interesting. Types that don't hit eachother. they would have to make another type at the same time. both dark and light would have to be able to learn another types moves besides normal in order to hit eachother and since light could learn any type since it hasn't been invented yet and dark is already invented there would need to be a new type for dark to learn moves from to hit light besides normal(because if it didn't then they couldn't make a light/ghost pokemon) and under certain sercumstances like dark facing light/ghost(or the other way, light against dark/ghost) in a gym battle or something, you wouldn't be able to beat the game. Alternately they would need to start a new generation of pokemon games not compatible with existing ones in which dark learns an existing types also. There's a good arguement against having light type. Wait, I wanted light type. Oh well.

And about the dark moves being good but the pokemon bad. well I still dont agree with the moves being good but in my experience, dark type pokemon don't do very well when using dark type moves which is why I wanted a new type super effective to dark so they make new dark pokemon who kick butt with prefferably new dark moves.
 
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I beg to differ. I find that my sceptile is just as important as any other member of my team. And it's leaf blade is pretty good, but a well placed Mega Drain is just as good in my case. and bug types are weak to pretty much the same things as grass types for the most part. And there are manymore bugs htat are just too weak. I.E., weedle, caterpie, Metapod, kakuna, beedrill, butterfree, wurmple, cascoon, silcoon, beautifly, and dustox. I also think paras may be a bug type. All of these are quite weak and depend on either evolution (Paras's case) or are beyond hope. you must agree that for the average pokemon trainer, bug pokemon are only used up to a certain point, then they depend on stronger types such as fire, grass, water, dragon, etc.

and speaking of moves, I think megahorn is the only good bug move. THe rest I think have a strength of 30% or less.
 
I've never met a trainer who used grass pokemon and was good. Grass just isn't one of those types that you can use against any pokemon. Fire is okay, water is about the same except for Swampert who is better than most water types, and Dragon or Psycic has got to be the strongest.
 
I don't think we need more types, just more pokemon/more evolutions. For example, a new evolution for eevee, a grass type. Or a stage 2 evolution(s) for evee would be cool.
 
mewtwo87 said:
I've never met a trainer who used grass pokemon and was good. Grass just isn't one of those types that you can use against any pokemon. Fire is okay, water is about the same except for Swampert who is better than most water types, and Dragon or Psycic has got to be the strongest.
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I happen to be near unbeatable and I use a grass type, thank you very much. My sceptile is quite deadly and is the only one in my team that can take down certain pokemon like kingdra just as en example, with out a lot of trouble.

Personally I feel unsulted you think grass users aren't good. i'd be happy to prove you wrong.I know a lot of grass users, most of which are friends or family of mine.I myself use sceptile, a friend of mine uses sceptile as well, a league operator I know usees sceptile, another friend is partial towards tropius, and my sister likes breloom. and just to show a grass user is not a bad trainer, I'm going to show you my win loss ratios, and I want you to know that I had sceptile since just after I beat the pokemon league 68 hours, 10 mintues and 51 seconds into teh game. ( now with 315 hours and 43 mintues of play time.)

Wins:25 Losses: 9 Ties:0

and most of those losses were before I got sceptile. And if that isn't enough, my battle tower team of Blaziken, Sceptile, and Swampert earned me 198 wins, 54 straight.

Basically I'm saying that you can't make a generalization that grass users are bad trainers. That is an unfair assumption.
 
i think that a light type would be good it can be strong agaimst dark and weak against grass
 
light would be a good type, since darks weaknesses are dumb, like bug.
 
Mew9 said:
light would be a good type, since darks weaknesses are dumb, like bug.
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yeah but to me having dark's weakness is bug is good seems im a scyther fan
 
I know this isn't on the new games but back at pokemon league(at toys"R"us) on my silver version my mewtwo and the rest of my team got me over 200 wins and close to 15 losses. never lost to a grass trainer, the losses I did get is from those who used gameshark which I refused to use cause I heard it wrecked your game. Me and two of my friends were some of the best people there. I used mostly psycic, Tim used mostly dragon, then the weakest, Matt used mostly grass. In the end matt had nowhere near the wins Tim and I had. Oh yeah, unsulted isn't a word.
 
ppl underestimate bugg pokemon like grass pokemon so im sticking up for
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mewtwo87 said:
Oh yeah, unsulted isn't a word.
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It's a typo. (Rolls Eyes) just because your friend couldn't handle grass types properly doesn't mean all other trainers are the same way. that is an even greater and an even more unfair assumption to think that just because your friend wasn't good with grass types that everyone else is too. He just wasn't a good trainer with grass types, but I can assure you I am, as many other people are.

And any team that is mostly one type can be beaten easily, regardless of what type it is. Frankly,if you used mostly psychics than any other type, then I must say I'm amazed you won so much. Even the pros at nintendo suggest creating a well balanced team.
 
Well teams change from time to time so it wasn't all the same pokemon though I did use Mewtwo and Alakazam almost every time. If I ever meet a grass pokemon trainer stronger than me, I'll shoot myself in the foot. But I've been training all types lately and my team is getting stronger every day(on ruby/Sapphire). I just got a rayquaza up to level 100 a few hours ago that is better than all my other rayquazas. And now I'm training a Tyranitar, and later because of you I'm going to see what I can do to a Sceptile, but I do doubt it will be one of my better pokemon.

Does anyone know of a pokemon league like they used to hold at toys"r"us. I need to test my team. Just to make sure I'm right.
 
Don't they usually hold that stuff in NYC or Washington? Does it matter how good you're Rayza is? All Dragon/Flying are the same, OHKO when up to Ice Beam.

The only good grass types I know of are dual types like Ludicolo, which can be one heck of a pain.
 
Rayquaza has some bad weaknesses but it's incredibly strong. it can learn ice beam too. In double battles it's pretty good.
I can't get to NY or Washington. I wish toys"R"us would do something like that again.
Now completely off topic. Is there a pokemon I might have overlooked that is fire/electricity?
 
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