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Urgh...My OU Netbattle squad

That's why there is Earthquake :\

Earthquake puts a dent in them, but brick break puts blissey into a range where I can power up raikou and take out blissey with thunderbolt. Sad part is, after 4 calm minds, thunderbolt did a mere 49% to blissey.

Ah well. If anybody has a better substitute for brick break, the floor is yours. Fire blast??? And milotic has failed me...I was thinking of using swampert instead. Ideas?
 
Earthquake puts a dent in them, but brick break puts blissey into a range where I can power up raikou and take out blissey with thunderbolt. Sad part is, after 4 calm minds, thunderbolt did a mere 49% to blissey.

Ah well. If anybody has a better substitute for brick break, the floor is yours. Fire blast??? And milotic has failed me...I was thinking of using swampert instead. Ideas?

Nooblet Attack is an alternate, put in on Jimmyray.

Replace the item and in place of it, put Petaya Berry. Replace Brick Break with Flamethrower. And HP Flying with Dragon Claw if STAB is what you're looking for. Yeah, I know , no boost, right? Adamant Nature then. Mized
 
Nooblet Attack is an alternate, put in on Jimmyray.

Replace the item and in place of it, put Petaya Berry. Replace Brick Break with Flamethrower. And HP Flying with Dragon Claw if STAB is what you're looking for. Yeah, I know , no boost, right? Adamant Nature then. Mized

I have no other physical attacker...I kinda can't use mixed mence...I can put fire blast, but does it really need petaya berry? Mence is gonna be switching a fair amount too...so the pinch berries wouldn't be good compared to the choice band. It laughs at blissey switch-ins.

Anyhow, that comment was a little out of line, wouldn't you say? Of course, return, especially in 4th gen, is lol on gyarados, but the last thing I want this to do is turn into a flame war. KK thanks.
 
I have no other physical attacker...I kinda can't use mixed mence...I can put fire blast, but does it really need petaya berry? Mence is gonna be switching a fair amount too...so the pinch berries wouldn't be good compared to the choice band. It laughs at blissey switch-ins.

Anyhow, that comment was a little out of line, wouldn't you say? Of course, return, especially in 4th gen, is lol on gyarados, but the last thing I want this to do is turn into a flame war. KK thanks.

Okay. Sorry, replacement for Salamence?

Slaking @:Choice Band
Trait: Traunt
Adamant Nature (+ Attack - Special Attack)
252 Attack/252 Speed/6 HP
Yawn
Substitute
Focus Punch
Aerial Ace.
 
Okay. Sorry, replacement for Salamence?

Slaking @:Choice Band
Trait: Traunt
Adamant Nature (+ Attack - Special Attack)
252 Attack/252 Speed/6 HP
Yawn
Substitute
Focus Punch
Aerial Ace.

Subpunching with a choice band...and traunt? Don't you think that's a little bit of an unrealistic goal? Mence covers everything. I see no reason to get rid of it...I'm sure there is one, but I don't want my only physical attacker to be slaking...
 
Subpunching with a choice band...and traunt? Don't you think that's a little bit of an unrealistic goal? Mence covers everything. I see no reason to get rid of it...I'm sure there is one, but I don't want my only physical attacker to be slaking...

Oops, yeah. Try replacing Raikou with Heracross.

Heracross @:Salac Berry
Trait: Guts
Adamant/Jolly Nature
Sleep Talk (Switch in when the opponent uses Hypnosis to activate)
Megahorn
HP Fighting
Rock Slide.
 
Oops, yeah. Try replacing Raikou with Heracross.

Heracross @:Salac Berry
Trait: Guts
Adamant/Jolly Nature
Sleep Talk (Switch in when the opponent uses Hypnosis to activate)
Megahorn
HP Fighting
Rock Slide.

I have to ask...what's with all the replacements? I tested this out last night with pretty good success. Raikou made a few people DC...as did Mence...they're too strong lol. I really don't see any need to fix what aint broken. HP fighting? Brick break has more power you know...but yeah, Mence>Heracross, from my experiences, mostly because it is faster, has more resistances, and has intimidate.
 
I have to ask...what's with all the replacements? I tested this out last night with pretty good success. Raikou made a few people DC...as did Mence...they're too strong lol. I really don't see any need to fix what aint broken. HP fighting? Brick break has more power you know...but yeah, Mence>Heracross, from my experiences, mostly because it is faster, has more resistances, and has intimidate.

Gyarados has Intimidate..

Gyarados @:Leftovers
Trait: Intimidate
Adamant Nature (+ Attack - Special Attack)
Ev's 252 speed/252 attack/6 HP
Dragon Dance
Taunt
Waterfall
Earthquake. TauntDos!
 
Gyarados has Intimidate..

Gyarados @:Leftovers
Trait: Intimidate
Adamant Nature (+ Attack - Special Attack)
Ev's 252 speed/252 attack/6 HP
Dragon Dance
Taunt
Waterfall
Earthquake. TauntDos!

But again, Mence doesn't need to be replaced...why do you hate it so much? It's fast, it's powerful, and with a little prediction, guarentees at least one poikemon on the other team gone. I'd really rather not replace anything except milotic. What I'm really looking for is a good swampert build. Cuz I suck with swampert...
 
But again, Mence doesn't need to be replaced...why do you hate it so much? It's fast, it's powerful, and with a little prediction, guarentees at least one poikemon on the other team gone. I'd really rather not replace anything except milotic. What I'm really looking for is a good swampert build. Cuz I suck with swampert...


I was just giving it as a option.. I wasn't telling you to replace it...
 
I was just giving it as a option.. I wasn't telling you to replace it...

I've tried about everything...at this point, I'm using my pokemon that have given me the best results. Gengar failed me. Zam failed me. Raikou...raikou didn't fail me. Heracross was okay...but Mence is amazing.Raikou hammers many common lads...yeah. I doubt I'll replace anything, except milotic, which I actually want to replace. Swampert...
 
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