US Supreme Court 2012 Rulings

[OmegaRuby and AlphaSapphire]

Speaking about penalty some of the health care acts supporters are trying to call it a "Penalty on free riders" rather than a tax...seems they can't really get away from the politics surrouding this act...people will attack it for being either a tax or a penalty.
Also a new poll came out (i beleive it was either gallup or Cnn) saying 49 percent of Independents want part if not the whole act repealed.

 

[Esper]

I heard that in Massachusetts people like their Romneycare system 2 to 1, doctors overwhelmingly say it's improved the quality of care, and 98% or people (with 99+% of children) are insured. Basically, it worked. And since the Affordable Care Act is a clone of Romneycare one would expect it to work as well. When you get down to it, if it works and is good for people that should be the only thing that matters, not whether you call something a tax or a penalty or a walrus.

 

[Guest123_x1]

I was fully expecting that the Obamacare Individual Mandate would be upheld (and also Arizona's immigration law to be gutted). Let's be clear about a few things:

1. The individual mandate is NOT about "helping the uninsured", "expanding access to care", "keeping costs under control", or even "cracking down on free riders", but corporate welfare for insurance companies and lining executives' pockets with windfall revenues. Despite mainstream media claims otherwise, the insurance industry lobbied HEAVILY for the individual mandate, because they will be making out like bandits with ever-skyrocketing rates (despite media claims that ObamaCare would lower insurance rates, insurance companies have had to push rates much higher because of this law-for much the same reason requiring college degrees just for decent-paying middle-class jobs has caused tuition to skyrocket-it's called supply and demand/economic fundamentals.) now that it's a permanent part of our law. (This is similar to how the stimulus packages and the horribly watered-down financial "reform" enriched Wall Street greed, despite media claims that the latter would crack down on Wall Street's excesses.)
2. The only reason the Supreme Court upheld the mandate was to save their rears from violent protests from health care reform supporters (like the upcoming riots over the coming permanent food and energy shortages that Jim Bakker, Matt Simmons, Jim Rogers, Peter Schiff, James Kunstler and Gerald Celente keep talking about). The chance of the mandate being struck down was about as likely as Detroit ever regaining its population and becoming a viable city again (read: zero).
3. Even though the Supreme Court is supposed to rule according to the Constitution, many of their rulings have flaunted the Constitution. To those defending the individual mandate as part of the Commerce Clause, WHERE in the Commerce Clause (or anywhere else in the Constitution) does it call for government to force people to engage in business with certain entities or industries? (BTW, I remember reading an editorial in the Lapeer County Press several years ago saying that courts are supposed to rule according to what's law, not what's popular with the people.)
4. As for the immigration thing, open borders are part of the Globalist/New World Order agenda, which will be to erase national borders, abolish national sovereignty, destroy the dollar and impose a new just as worthless global fiat currency, and make every country in the world equal with each other. You'll all think I'm being a nutcase talking about the NWO, but take a look at what Henry Kissinger has to say:
   -Obama primed to create 'New World Order'
   -The world must forge a new order or retreat to chaos.
5. Putting people in jail for not having health insurance sounds exactly like something the USSR, Fascist Italy, or Nazi Germany would do if either of those regimes were around today.

The Supreme Court just upheld the foundation for socialism in America, and he's still complaining!

In effect, this means we have fought the Cold War for nothing and lost. America stepped up its expansion of government power after the USSR dissolved, and compounded/accelerated those efforts to an even greater extent after 9-11. Despite most of our freedoms being taken away and imperialist nation-building wars (Afghanistan and Iraq) being waged in the name of "national security" and other such things, we are not any safer than we were on September 10, 2001.
If only I had the money to leave the US for good (like Jim Rogers did a few years ago), and never come back... I am so tired of America morphing in a giant totalitarian state rivaling the worst regimes of the 20th Century. I don't think I'm going to even vote this November (it won't matter who I vote for, Obama's still going to win big anyway, even if the election gets rigged like those in Russia and Iran).