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UU Based Team

PKMN Santa

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    Hey Guys! This is my UU Team. I am looking for some recommendations to see how I can cover what I have found to be my weakness. Since I don't like using OU PKMN I generally use this team in OU Battles. This isn't my problem. I've done very well holding my own against OU Teams and have beaten quite a few, but what I have found my problem to be are Dragon Dance + Outrage Sweepers. Due to the fact my team is so defensive and I don't necessarily have a designated Sweeper. Therefore, the opponent is usually able to Dragon Dance twice. It takes more than one Ice Punch from my Hariyama to take an Outrage Sweeper, usually. With +2 Attack & +2 Speed there's almost nothing I can do besides hoping my Venusaur can land a Sleep Powder, but that's only if I haven't already slept someone on his / her team. Basically, what I am asking is if anyone has any ideas of what I can do to face this weakness. I'm not looking to drastically change my team. I am looking for new Move Sets / 1 - 2 new PKMN.

     Mismagius ♀
     Held Item: Life Orb
     Ability: Levitate
     Nature: Timid
     EV: 4 HP / 252 Sp. Attack / 252 Speed
     - Destiny Bond
     - Shadow Ball
     - Taunt
     - Thunderbolt

     Clefable ♂
     Held Item: Leftovers
     Ability: Magic Guard
     Nature: Careful
     EV: 252 HP / 44 Defense / 212 Sp. Defense
     - Wish
     - Protect
     - Seismic Toss
     - Heal Bell

     Hariyama ♂
     Held Item: Leftovers
     Ability: Think Fat
     Nature: Impish
     EV: 80 HP / 172 Attack / 252 Defense / 4 Speed
     - Brick Break
     - Ice Punch
     - Payback
     - Whirlwind

     Slowbro ♂
     Held Item: Leftovers
     Ability: Own Tempo
     Nature: Bold
     EV: 252 HP / 176 Defense / 80 Sp. Defense
     - Calm Mind
     - Surf
     - Slack Off
     - Psychic

     Steelix ♂
     Held Item: Leftovers
     Ability: Sturdy
     Nature: Sassy
     EV: 252 HP / 124 Attack / 132 Sp. Defense
     - Torment
     - Gyro Ball
     - Substitute
     - Toxic

     Venusaur ♀
     Held Item: Leftovers
     Ability: Overgrow
     Nature: Calm
     EV: 252 HP / 4 Defense / 252 Sp. Defense
     - Leech Seed
     - Energy Ball
     - Sleep Powder
     - Sludge Bomb

    Thanks for everyone's help and advice! ^^
     
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    Im not sure but you could try its an NU

    Hitmonchan @ Choice scarf
    Ability: Iron Fist
    Nature: Adament
    Moveset:
    ~ Close Combat
    ~ Mach Punch / Stone Edge
    ~ Ice Punch
    ~ ThunderPunch
    EvSpread: 12 HP / 252 Atk / 244 Spe
     
    Is Hitmochan meant to replace Hariyama? If so I don't like the idea. I use Hariyama for his bulk and his ability to cover Steelix's & Venusaur's weaknesses with Think Fat. Who I can see replacing is Slowbro for a more traditional Sweeper. Or perhaps I should switch one of his Attack Moves for Ice Beam in order to take down Dragon types more easily...? As he is somewhat of a Sp. Sweeper with Calm Mind. +Sp. Attack & +Sp. Defense
     
    Registeel over Steelix.
    Though Steelix will have more Def, Registeel has a bit higher HP, and awesome SpDef.
    And it has instant recovery which Steelix lacks, Rest. Registeel has access to Rest, Curse, and Sleep Talk. It can't be KO'ed by and Outrage once it starts Cursing.
     
    Excellent! It's only a shame because I like Steelix, but I will give Registeel a try. I'm assuming there is such a set on Smogon? If not... EVs, Moves, Nature...?
     
    PKMN Santa said:
    Excellent! It's only a shame because I like Steelix, but I will give Registeel a try. I'm assuming there is such a set on Smogon? If not... EVs, Moves, Nature...?
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    Sometimes, you shouldn't really follow Smogon.
    If you want a Registeel wall, I'll go for this set:

    252 HP 36 Def 220 SpDef
    Curse
    Rest
    Sleep Talk
    Iron Head

    This set maximizes HP and SpDef. The bit Def is additional walling-purposes which can be boosted by Curse. Get enough Curses (like 2~4) and Iron Head will definitely hurt those who doesn't resist it. One great partner for Registeel is Arcanine to absorb incoming Fire attacks with Flash Fire, and Spiritomb/Rotom to make Fighting moves useless. Though Spiritomb is just another wall, you can use Rotom instead for more revenge killing with it's above average 91 Base Speed. A Scarfed Rotom with Trick can make dancers/cursers useless.
     
    Thanks for the advice and set! ^^

    However, trying to keep this a UU Team my doesn't my works Hariyama work better than a Arcanine with his Thick Fat Ability? The reason being he covers Venusaur's weaknesses to Fire & Ice with his Ability. In my opinion I think Hariyama is a better fit due to the fact that Arcanine can only cover one weakness oppose to two. As well, my Mismagius works as the Rotom you were talking about, absorbing Fighting Attacks. Also, Slowbro can do the same with his typing and high defense. However, this still leaves me with no designated Sweeper. So, back to what you were saying... Would I be better off replacing Hariyama with Arcanine and equip Arcanine with a Sweeper Set? I'm sorry if I confused you here. I'm kinda contradicting myself. XD

    P.S. I just realized Arcanine can cover Venusaur's weakness to Ice because he's a Fire Type. XD Major N00B moment!
     
    PKMN Santa said:
    Thanks for the advice and set! ^^

    However, trying to keep this a UU Team my doesn't my works Hariyama work better than a Arcanine with his Thick Fat Ability? The reason being he covers Venusaur's weaknesses to Fire & Ice with his Ability. In my opinion I think Hariyama is a better fit due to the fact that Arcanine can only cover one weakness oppose to two. As well, my Mismagius works as the Rotom you were talking about, absorbing Fighting Attacks. Also, Slowbro can do the same with his typing and high defense. However, this still leaves me with no designated Sweeper. So, back to what you were saying... Would I be better off replacing Hariyama with Arcanine and equip Arcanine with a Sweeper Set? I'm sorry if I confused you here. I'm kinda contradicting myself. XD

    P.S. I just realized Arcanine can cover Venusaur's weakness to Ice because he's a Fire Type. XD Major N00B moment!
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    You got that correct. (Except for the Major noob comment pun).
    Arcanine does wonders too if used correctly, and again, as opposed to Hariyama, Arcanine has access to Morning Sun which is a recovery ability. Contradicting yourself brings out true potential. Oh, I forgot about your Mismagius. Only that one advantage of Rotom is it's Electric-Typing that can hurt those pesky water types when Venusaur is afraid of an Ice Beam. Slowbro's better off with a Calm Mind set too.

    I know team-building is hard. Just give a bit more time for it. I onced trolled around Pokemon Online just to test out 'mons. It's really helpful.
     
    Musica said:
    You got that correct. (Except for the Major noob comment pun).
    Arcanine does wonders too if used correctly, and again, as opposed to Hariyama, Arcanine has access to Morning Sun which is a recovery ability. Contradicting yourself brings out true potential. :P

    I know team-building is hard. Just give a bit more time for it. I onced trolled around Pokemon Online just to test out 'mons. It's really helpful.
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    Yeah, it's been a challenge, but thanks for all your help. It's greatly appreciated. =D
     
    PKMN Santa said:


    Yeah, it's been a challenge, but thanks for all your help. It's greatly appreciated. =D
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    One way that helped me while battling around was having serebii and smogon opened while battling. Try asking for mock battles around Smogon to test your team and probably know your style.
     
    replace sludge bomb on venu with hidden power fire if this is going to be used in OU, otherwise steels wall you all day (heatran still does, but are you honestly going to stay in on heatran?) if you are having trouble dealing damage with hariyama, try running an adamant nature.
     
    .Gamer said:
    replace sludge bomb on venu with hidden power fire if this is going to be used in OU, otherwise steels wall you all day (heatran still does, but are you honestly going to stay in on heatran?) if you are having trouble dealing damage with hariyama, try running an adamant nature.
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    I guess he could also mix in OU 'mons like Gyarados if he's going to battle in an OU-based tier. For Heatran carrying Hidden Power Grass, Milotic can wall it for a while and give back damage that may OHKO Heatran, yet Specs-boosted Heatran kills Milotic.
     
    Alright! Taking into consideration the advice given to me this is what I have come up with thus far. Take a look... =)

    Mismagius ♀
    Held Item: Life Orb
    Ability: Levitate
    Nature: Timid
    EV: 4 HP / 252 Sp. Attack / 252 Speed
    - Destiny Bond
    - Shadow Ball
    - Taunt
    - Thunderbolt

    Clefable ♂
    Held Item: Leftovers
    Ability: Magic Guard
    Nature: Careful
    EV: 252 HP / 44 Defense / 212 Sp. Defense
    - Wish
    - Protect
    - Seismic Toss
    - Heal Bell

    Arcanine ♂
    Held Item: Life Orb
    Ability: Flash Fire
    Nature: Adamant
    EV: 120 HP / 152 Attack / 236 Speed
    - Flare Blitz
    - Extreme Speed
    - Morning Sun
    - Will-O-Wisp

    Slowbro ♂
    Held Item: Leftovers
    Ability: Own Tempo
    Nature: Bold
    EV: 252 HP / 176 Defense / 80 Sp. Defense
    - Calm Mind
    - Surf
    - Slack Off
    - Psychic

    Registeel
    Held Item: Leftovers
    Ability: Clear Body
    Nature: Impish
    EV: 252 HP / 36 Defense / 220 Sp. Defense
    - Rest
    - Sleep Talk
    - Curse
    - Iron Head

    Venusaur ♀
    Held Item: Leftovers
    Ability: Overgrow
    Nature: Calm
    EV: 252 HP / 4 Defense / 252 Sp. Defense
    - Leech Seed
    - Energy Ball
    - Sleep Powder
    - Sludge Bomb
     
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