What stats would real life animals have in the Pkmn world?

[OreoMaster]

Okay, I know lots of animals have been turned into Pokemon but there are some whose stats are just wrong. For example, Bouffalant should have more HP and Def. It's based on a Cape Buffalo. Buffaloes are among the hardest things to kill. They may get shot countless times but still charging. And this is a fact not speculation. They are very tough.
Also, hippowdon should have more Att since hippos have an immense bite force and strong bodies. Ursaring being a grizzly should have more HP and Def as well. Bears are hard to kill too.

Anyway, what stats would you give to buffaloes, bears, honey badgers and whatever animal you can think of. Also, what stats would the average human have?

 

[droomph]

Dog, canines.

HP - They are strong - they don't bruise and injure as easily compared to how big they are. So I would say 110 or 115.

Attack - I can barely control my dog sometimes, so definitely an 80.

Sp. Attack - They can't projectile, just like humans, so either lower or the same as Attack.

Defense - 50. Just like I said in HP, they are comparatively strong.

Sp. Defense - 50 or lower.

Speed - hella fast, so around 90.

Humans.

HP - Depends on the person, but HP, on average, should be around 100 base.

Attack - We have weapons but with out bare hands I think we would have around 50.

Special attack - If you mean weapons, 255. But if not, probably none or same as attack...we don't have any natural Sp. Attack powers.

Defense - Base is around 40. We're weak, ya know.

Sp. Def - um, 40 again. We can take punches equally as well as bullets.

Speed - We're not all Usain Bolt so we're around 70.

 

[OreoMaster]

Um, so you say stats aren't taken on a general, stable scale which remains the same for every Pokemon but rather it is pound for pound. This can kinda explain why Caterpie has more defense than Chansey even though it can be stepped on and squashed. Caterpie, pound for pound, has something to protect its body(the exoskeleton) while Chansey only has her soft flesh.
I like it.

But I think dogs having such HP is kinda odd. I mean, Hippowdon has less than that and I am pretty sure dogs aren't as tough as hippos. I would give them a 70-75. I agree about the rest.

And for humans, I think 100 HP for us is too much. I mean, we aren't that tough. Would we have the same HP as Swampert and even more than Donphan and other large tough pokemon? I think we are at about 55. Look at other humanoid Pkmn like Mr.Mime, Alakazam, Hitmonlee etc Also, wouldn't attack be around 70-75? I mean, we can be stronger than Wigglytuff. It's just an oversized bunny. And I agree once again about the rest. 40 defense looks appropriate.

 

[Pokemon Trainer UV]

Why are you comparing them to Pokemon? That doesn't make sense.
That's like comparing Naruto to Goku.
It's okay to put power levels in Naruto, but to compare them to the power levels in the DB world instead of their own is ridiculous.

Anyways:

Wild animals:

Lion (Male)
HP: 250
Attack: 247
Defense: 230
Speed: 220

Lion (Female)
HP: 210
Attack: 230
Defense: 210
Speed: 240

Cheetah:
HP: 200
Attack: 200
Defense: 190
Speed: 290


Hyena:
HP: 240 (Males: 220)
Attack: 270 (Males: 230)
Defense: 230
Speed: 210

Wolves:
HP: 220
Attack: 230
Defense: 210
Speed: 215

Hippo:
HP: 260
Attack: 240
Defense: 250
Speed: 170

Elephant: (Males)
HP: 270
Attack: 270 (Females: 260)
Defense: 240
Speed: 200

Crocodile:
HP: 200
Attack: 260
Defense: 260
Speed: 200

Alligator:
HP: 190
Attack: 240
Defense: 250
Speed: 210


Humans: (~ = Varies)

Human: (Unarmored, no weapons)
HP: 120
Attack: 110
Defense: 100
Speed: 100

Human: (Armored, weapons)
HP: 120
Attack: 220 ~
Defense: 200 ~
Speed: 100 ~


Domestic creatures:

Dogs
HP: 120 ~ 200 (Max)
Attack: 100 ~ 210 (Max)
Defense: 120 ~ 200 (Max)
Speed: 120 ~ 180 (Max)

Cat:
HP: 90 ~ 100
Attack: 100 ~ 105
Defense: 100 ~ 105
Speed: 130 ~ 150

Prehistoric: (They'd pretty much be in their own league)

Tyrannosaurus:
HP: 260 (Females: 270)
Attack: 260 (Females: 275)
Defense: 240
Speed: 220 (Female: 210)

Spinosaurus:
HP: 280
Attack: 290
Defense: 250
Speed: 210

Triceratops:
HP: 230
Attack: 250
Defense: 260
Speed: 200


Just for fun:

Spoiler:

Megalodon (Shiz just got REAL)
HP: 280
Attack: 320
Defense: 260
Speed: 220

No special attack, because as far as I know, animals don't got notable powers.


Maaaan, would it be cool if someone made a Pokemon hack that used real animals..it'd be fun thinking of abilities.
Maybe even a separate version with prehistoric animals, because prehistoric animals would massacre current animals.

 

[OreoMaster]

Yeah because most Pokemon are based on animals so you can get an idea of the animal's stats. For example, I would like to know the stats of a lion.

I take Luxray so I get a vague idea of how much HP, Attack etc it would have.

Now, if you want to be helpful and actually answer the question, that's up to you.

 

[Pokemon Trainer UV]

Yeah because most Pokemon are based on animals so you can get an idea of the animal's stats. For example, I would like to know the stats of a lion.

I take Luxray so I get a vague idea of how much HP, Attack etc it would have.

Now, if you want to be helpful and actually answer the question, that's up to you.

You're comparing the physical abilities of super powered creatures based on cryptids, legends, symbols, objects, to real life animals...

I think it'd make a LOT more sense to just give animals in real life stats that are relative to each other, and not mixing super powered monsters into it. It'd make it more fair.

 

[OreoMaster]

Oh come on. Luxray is a lion. Plain and simple. Tauros is a bull. Vulpix is a fox. Stoutland is a dog. The list goes on.
They may be kinda overpowered but how do you think Game Freak determined Pokemon's stats. Sure, some of them are purely made up and all but look at some Pokemon that closely resemble animals.
Hippowdon, Donphan and Rhydon all have high HP and very high Def because in real life hippos, elephants and rhinos are very tough and extremely hard to kill with physical force. They can tolerate a lot of damage(HP) and their body is very resistant to physical damage due to thick hide etc (Def).
They all have poor Sp.Def because those animals can't do well against harsh environmental factors.
I know that their stats aren't just pure logic and influence from their real life counterpart but it has a lot to do with it. I mean, it would be pretty ironic if Hippowdon had a very low Def and HP when you do know that hippos in real life are very sturdy. Get it now?

Of course as I said, some Pokemon are purely made up like Clefable or Blissey or Vaporeon. Their stats are made up too.

 

[MiTjA]

Dog - 10/15/10/1/5/45
Pigeon - 5/1/1/5/5/55
Caterpillar - 1/1/1/1/1/1
...


In other words, real life animals are weaker than pokemon.
Perhaps some of the tougher creatures could get to pokemon like stats, but essentially none would have Sp.Atk, or many cases of noteworthy Sp.Def.

Pokemon can survive fires, shocks, getting hit by things that would kill anything else, and they recover way easier.

 

[Pokemon Trainer UV]

Did I say that Game Freak's stats were wrong? I don't get why you're bringing up on how Game Freak seems to determine stats, it's pretty obvious how they do it. They take appearance, type, diet, and mass in order to try to figure out stats.

But, what I'm pointing out is that when you replied to Droomph.

If you move a Pokemon to the world of Yu-Gi-Oh, its stats are gonna change to fit to that world.
If you bring Pokemon-esqe stats to real world (Which does not have Pokemon) , the stats of every living thing will change to be relative to each other.
If you mix Pokemon with the real world, then the stats of every living creature will lower in order to fit.

Just like how another level 5 Pokemon would seem tough to you in the beginning, but later on, a level 5 Pokemon becomes a joke.

Get it now?


And you better not give me a wall of text talking that points out your obsession with Pokemon stats, Blissey, and imagining Pokemon getting mutilating with damage...

 

[OreoMaster]

I agree about the pigeon and caterpillar MiTjA. Maybe dogs would have kinda more HP or Def like at least 30 HP and 20-30 HP. But okay. I like how dogs have the same defense with Blissey xD Although I am curious about the stats of humans. If a caterpillar has all 1's and a dog has 10 HP and 10 Def then humans would have 7-8 HP and 3 Def? LMAO those base stats are pathetic.

UV, okay, I agree with you. It's just that they may be super powered but it doesn't mean that their bodies can instantly take more damage. I mean, it's easy to think that a bear has the same stats like Ursaring because they are so similar. Or Tauros with a bull. But okay. Can't we just be friends and get along?

 

[Oryx]

Okay guys calm down. It doesn't really matter all that much how you define the stats as long as you note them.

But UV, I disagree with the Attack of the genders of lions. You know lionesses are the hunters of the pride, right? Based on that, one would guess their Attack would be higher than the male lion's. Just because it's a male doesn't necessarily mean it's stronger.

 

[Pokemon Trainer UV]

Sorry, I have a habit of obsessively editing my post. I gotta write what I want at once..anyways, check it out, I changed things.


@Toujours

Correct, Lioness do all of the hunting, but a Lion is still naturally stronger, it's much larger, it gets the meals first, and it has to fight off other male Lions.

In fact, it usually takes 2 to 4 female lions in order to fight off a male lion.

 

[OreoMaster]

UV, thanks so much about your reply. See? Wasn't so hard in the first place :P Also, have you edited all of your posts? Because I got really confused.

Also, are they Base Stats or Maximum Stats?

By the way, how can an elephant have less HP and less Def than a hippo? Okay, maybe hippos' hide is thicker but how about HP. I mean, it's an elephant.

 

[Pokemon Trainer UV]

UV, thanks so much about your reply. See? Wasn't so hard in the first place :P Also, have you edited all of your posts? Because I got really confused.

Also, are they Base Stats or Maximum Stats?

By the way, how can an elephant have less HP and less Def than a hippo? Okay, maybe hippos' hide is thicker but how about HP. I mean, it's an elephant.

Not sure, I never really thought about it. I guess I'll just put them as maximum.

An elephant may be the biggest land mammal, but compared to hippos, they are more offensive. Hippos are covered in VERY thick fat in order to float in water, keep warm, and not absorb water. Elephants, though, because they live in a very hot enviroment and on land, they do not need much fat. As big as they are, the thing that's really protecting them is their leathery skin, which isn't much compared to the thick fat AND skins of Hippos.

 

[OreoMaster]

Yeah but what you're talking about is Def. I agree that maybe hippos have better armor than elephants but elephants should have more HP due to body mass. Lower defense(slightly) but higher HP.

And yeah, those don't fit as base stats because a lion having more HP than Chansey and Wailord sounds too much.
I think max stats.

 

[Pokemon Trainer UV]

Hmm. guess you're right. The Elephant would have a bit higher HP, I'll change it.