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What's the ultimate team?

Kabutops

Force to be Reckoned With
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    Rate my team please.

    hey... i think my teams pretty good but i'm curious as to know what other people's opinions are. This team is mainly for fighting the Elite Four.

    Kabutops lvl.53
    -Giga Drain
    -Hydro Pump
    -Slash
    -False Swipe

    Blaziken lvl. 59
    -Blaze Kick
    -Sky Uppercut
    -Quick Attack
    -Slash

    Venusaur lvl. 55
    -Synthesis
    -Solar Beam
    -Razor Leaf
    -Growth

    Blastoise lvl. 55
    -Surf
    -Bite
    -Skull Bash
    -Rain Dance

    Dragonite lvl. 56
    -Blizzard
    -Fire Blast
    -Safegaurd
    -Hail

    Pigeot lvl. 56
    -Wing Attack
    -Fly
    -Agility
    -Quick Attack

    I have the national dex so that's why i have kab utops and stuff.
     
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    *NOTE THIS IS CONSTRUCTIVE CRITICISM NOT FLAMING*
    Well I dont really know how you want me to rate it but heres my take on it anyways...
    On first impression it appears to be a balanced team, but it has one undeniable weakness: The dual types. Give me one electric pokemon and I will singlehandedly take out almost every one! Another thing, while I beleive might is right you should spread your status boosting/destroying moves over the entire team and not limit it to half. Blastoise seems to be unescessary as well since you already have a water type in the form of Kabutops choose one or the other. You could replace them with say a psychic or electric type mabye? If your going for favorites thats fine but if you want a strong and well balanced team mix up the types a little. It's a great team for the elite four but it wouldnt last long in a real life game boy tourny.

    Sorry if that got harsh lol ^_^
     
    thanks it wasn't harsh at all lol. hmmm yeh I had blastoise there on account he's got a few strong attacks like skull bash and surf.but i know what you mean... i think i'll substitute him for ampharos. but on a scale of 1-10 what do you think it is?
     
    As it stands right now? About a 6.
     
    O.K. then i swapped blastoise with ampharos, and i'm ready to kick elite butt. :P

    Kabutops lvl.53
    -Giga Drain
    -Hydro Pump
    -Slash
    -False Swipe

    Blaziken lvl. 59
    -Blaze Kick
    -Sky Uppercut
    -Quick Attack
    -Slash

    Venusaur lvl. 55
    -Synthesis
    -Solar Beam
    -Razor Leaf
    -Growth

    Ampharos lvl. 58
    -Light Screen
    -Thunder Puch
    -Iron Tail
    -Thunder

    Dragonite lvl. 56
    -Blizzard
    -Fire Blast
    -Safegaurd
    -Hail

    Pigeot lvl. 56
    -Wing Attack
    -Fly
    -Agility
    -Quick Attack
     
    now that u changed it for ampharous*one of my favs* ''ill'' give it a 5.but let me fix it.

    kabutops has a low sp.atk(65) so giga drain and hydro pump wont do much hurting.
    slash and false swipe are the only ones thatll stand out since it has a base stat of 115.
    replace giga drain(since u got venusaur) for brick break. if u want u can switch hydro pump for ancient power, aerial ace, or the totured rock slide. u can switch hydro pump if u want but i would leave it.

    blaziken is good.
    a move set ill give blaziken is:
    rock slide(breeding)
    flamethrower(better accuracy than blaze kick)
    sky uppercut/brick break
    earthquake/slash

    a move set ill give venusaur is:
    razor leaf
    earthquake
    slude bomb
    synthesis/frenzy plant

    a move set ill give ampharos is:
    body slam(breading)(move tutor)
    thunder punch/thunder bolt
    thunder
    iron tail/double team

    a move set ill give dragonite is:
    dragon dance
    thunder bolt
    earthquake
    aerial ace
    ~thank serebii


    a move set ill give pidgeot is:
    winga atk/aerial ace/fly
    steel wing
    are cutter
    quick atk/faint atk(breeding)

    now i give this a 8 1/2.
     
    sounds good... but something doesnt seem right with some of the moves idk yet just a "hunch" lol
     
    Kabutops said:
    sounds good... but something doesnt seem right with some of the moves idk yet just a "hunch" lol

    its ok but if u want the absolute best move set ask frostweaver. hes the best at moveset for annoyers or all on atk teams.
    but if u want 2on2 help ask me.just call stewie(<-even though thats not my real name :P )
     
    alrighty then, thanks for the tips...
     
    but thi IS Ruby AND Sapphire discussion, so that's why i posted it here
     
    Before the rate goes on, I'll strongly recommand you to read the advanced trainer's guide (link is in my signature) as this team violates some common errors made by some trainers, such as duplicated types (thunderpunch and thunder... both of them are electric so one of them is repeated and unnecessary). That'll be a good start.

    Secondly, we usually expect all teams to be posted at their DREAM STAGE. That is, what you want your team to be in the end. If you fix up what you want your team to be first, then you don't have to "restart" any training because the nature is wrong and so on. Assume lvl 100s, any items with any TMs that you want (as that's how online battling works as well)

    I'll work on top of the 2nd version of the team.


    Kabutops- [atk + / sp.atk -] @ liechi berry
    EV: Atk and Spd max
    -Rock Slide
    -Substitute/Endure
    -Flail
    -Brick break/hydro pump/rain dance
    *note: if substitute is used, HP must be a number divisible by 4, plus 1

    With a crappy special attack, nothing but hydro pump can do any damage, and even hydro is only half decent with STAB. Use substitute/flail to reduce your hp down to 1 hp purposely in order to use flail with liechi berry. Rock Slide to help STAB, and brick break can be used to go against normal types. Hydro Pump can also be considered to have something to do against Skarmory and Weezing. Can always consider rain dance to use swift swim and help out Ampharos (if Amp is using rain dance set as well)

    Never use Slash. It is useless. Whatever Slash can do, Return does it better with 20 higher attack power. False Swipe cannot kill so why bother? (it's only good for catching pokemon inside the game, not battling)


    Blaziken- [atk + / sp.atk -] @ salac berry
    EV: Atk and Spd max
    -endure/substitute
    -reversal
    -flamethrower/overheat
    -quick attack/rock slide

    I was never too fond of this guy when I tried him out... the speed was slower than I imagined. Same strategy as Kabutops, except now it's reversal not flail, and has a fire attack to beat the crap out of the evil metal chicken. You can also have the option to quick attack to kill off other reversal/flail users, but then that'll make you completely helpless to ghost types (you'll only have fire attacks against them then). However, you can't ahve it all.

    Blaze Kick is useless. Whatever it can do, flamethrower does it better with higher power AND accuracy. Sky Uppercut has poor accuracy in comparison to brick break, which is by far a lot better due to accuracy and a very powerful side effect.

    Venusaur1- [atk + / sp.atk -] @ leftovers
    EV: Atk max, mix of the 3 defensive stats to your choice
    -sleep powder
    -swords dance
    -sludge bomb
    -earthquake/HP Fire

    Try to survive one round, then pull off sleep powder. Swords dance up once then bombs away. Use earthquake to hit fire types, or HP fire to hit evil metal chickens. However, do take note that Venusaur is not that fast at all, and you cannot afford to be paralyzed or burnt. If you're playing with sleep clause, do take note that no more than 1 pokemon can be affected by sleep powder.

    Venusaur2- [sp.atk + / atk -] @ leftovers
    EV: Sp.atk, defensive EVs of your choice
    -sludge bomb
    -sleep powder
    -razor leaf/giga drain
    -HP Special

    Same as always, survive and attack, then sleep powder. Except now you're using special attacks instead of physical. Keep Sludgebomb though. A STAB sludgebomb even without any attack EV can still hurt the evil egg by quite a bit.

    Venusaur2- [def or sp.def + / atk or sp.atk -] @ leftovers
    EV: Defensive EVs of your choice
    -leech seed
    -sleep powder
    -giga drain/protect/synthesis
    -offensive move /light screen

    Leech seed version... however the slow speed doesn't appeal me to be a leech seed user at all in comparison to Sceptile and Jumpluff, and can't heal as much as Ludicolo too. However you can always try it out.

    Always keep in mind that you can mix up the 3 Venusaur sets to what you think is the best for it. Toxic is also another candidate if you are stalling with venusuar (by do take note that grass type is weak to *quite a bit* of stuff)

    Ampharos- [sp.atk + / atk -] @ leftovers/lum berry
    EV: Sp.atk max, defensive stats
    -thunderwave/rain dance
    -thunderbolt/thunder
    -light screen/reflect
    -HP Fire or Ice/HP Water

    Ampharos should be a special attack sweeper with the high sp.attack stats (atk on the other hand, is not as high... don't use iron tail EVER because it's highly inaccurate and we know steel attack sucks offensively. There are ampharos packing physical attacks, but they're purely for anti Blissey purposes with brick break, or using counter against Salamences). Thunderwave for paralysis, and then sweep away. Setup the barriers to help out.

    The other set uses rain dance to make thunder usable, and it helps Kabutop's swift swim as well. Always remember- Lanturn Screws You, unless you have HP Grass. If you have HP Grass, then Eggy Screws You. So you can choose who to go against. Do you wnat to kill Lanturn, or do you want ot kill Eggy?

    Dragonite- I have no clue how to use him... I tried though. Perhaps make him with haze... you need a hazer. You will... Dragonite is too flexible for me to use =/ It can be a utilizer with the barriers, and thunderwave, or a mix sweeper as it can learn too many things. However, with so much movesets it's too hard to choose the right EV for Dragonite (for me that is). So I'll stay out of this one so I won't be messing you up.


    Pidgeot- [atk + / sp.atk -] @ lum berry
    EV: Atk and Spd?
    -aerial ace
    -whirlwind/return/double edge
    -HP Ground/Steel Wing *sigh*
    -quick attack

    Strongly suggest you to take Dodrio instead... it has higher defense, but so what as the type combo is weak to too many elements. It has slow speed (relatively), and attack power is not high enough to sweep. Keen Eyes gotta be one of the worst trait you can possibly have... But if you're playing with favorites, then use the set above and best of luck o.o;
     
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