Which card pack or box to buy to get Pokemon Go pokemon cards

[fsiefken]

There are lots of packs and boxes to get for TCG, but which packs contain the largest percentage of Pokemon Go pokemon below? I want to play TCG 2p with the Pokemon Go Pokemon.
Is Pokémon TCG 20th Anniversary Venusaur EX Box a good idea or would Pokémon TCG XY 10 Booster Fates Collide be better?

For example in Pokemon Go there are the listed cards below, what would be the most efficient way to get most of them?

* Everywhere
Rattata
Pidgey
Weedle
Venonat
Zubat
Caterpie
Doduo

* Common Pokemons in Pokemon Go
Oddish
Paras
Gastly
Drowzee
Eevee
Magikarp
Meowth
Bellsprout
Ekans
Nidoran M/F
Polywag
Slowpoke
Goldeen
Krabby
Mankey

* Special Pokemons in Pokemon Go
Bulbasaur
Charmander
Squirtle
Pikachu
Omanyte
Kabuto
Aerodactyl
Hitmochan
Hitmonlee

* Epic Pokemon in Pokemon GO
Dratini
Farfetch'd
Mr.Mine
Jynx
Magmar
Electabuzz
Porygon

 

[fsiefken]

Appearently I need the Generations Elite Trainer Box, but that's not available yet. It includes 10 Generations booster packs and 45 Energy cards with a new look, 6 damage-counter dice, 1 competition-legal coin-flip die and 2 acrylic condition markers.

What are the chances these Pokemon Go pokemon: Spearow, Rattata, Abra, Pidgey, Magikarp, Psyduck, Goldeen, Fearow, Magikarp, Poliwag, Pidgeotto, Drowzee, Pickachu I alreday collected with Go and the aforementioned are included in these 10 packs? Is there an overview somewhere?
Or would it be better to hunt for the old cards individually through second hand channels or ask around?

The boxes are available and also contain Generations packs. Now can I use default cards as energy cards, ordinary dice for damage counter dice or the 'coin-flip die' and 2 random condition markers?

1x Pokemon Generations Expansion single pack
4x Generations packs incl. in Pokemon: 20th Anniversary Red & Blue Collection - Venusaur-EX
4x Generations packs incl. in Pokemon: 20th Anniversary Red & Blue Collection - Blastoise-EX
4x Generations packs incl. in Pokemon: 20th Anniversary Red & Blue Collection - Charizard-EX
2x Generations packs incl. in Mythical Pokemon Mew box
2x Generations packs incl. in Mythical Pokemon Celebi box
2x Generations packs incl. in Mythical Pokemon Jirachi box
2x Generations packs incl. in Mythical Pokemon Darkrai box

 

[ddrox13]

Appearently I need the Generations Elite Trainer Box, but that's not available yet. It includes 10 Generations booster packs and 45 Energy cards with a new look, 6 damage-counter dice, 1 competition-legal coin-flip die and 2 acrylic condition markers.

What are the chances these Pokemon Go pokemon: Spearow, Rattata, Abra, Pidgey, Magikarp, Psyduck, Goldeen, Fearow, Magikarp, Poliwag, Pidgeotto, Drowzee, Pickachu I alreday collected with Go and the aforementioned are included in these 10 packs? Is there an overview somewhere?
Or would it be better to hunt for the old cards individually through second hand channels or ask around?

The boxes are available and also contain Generations packs. Now can I use default cards as energy cards, ordinary dice for damage counter dice or the 'coin-flip die' and 2 random condition markers?
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Oh dear. Let's start from the top. You don't "need" anything on that list. Let's get that out of the way.

The "Pokemon Go Pokemon" are the first pokemon that were released in 1996, i.e. numbers 1-149. Subsequently, older sets generally have higher density of older pokemon. Generations is a very new set, but has a high density of old pokemon. While I can't guarantee any specific pokemon, that is your best bet. Gens packs are hard to come by, as you clearly noticed.

From your post, I'm confused as to wether you want to start playing the TCG or just collect some specific pokemon. In the latter case, second-hand-markets would be your best bet. Most of the pokemon you mentioned have appeared as common cards in recent sets, and market rate for those are usually $0.10 each. I don't think I'm allowed to link any sellers here due to advertising rules, but there are a lot of them.

If you actually want to play the TCG, you need to scrap the idea of "only using pokemon go pokemon" unless you thought you could pull off a Flareon deck without Vespiquen. If you wanted to go that route, I'd start with a theme deck to learn the game before buying anything weird. The Burning Spark deck contains 6 different pokemon that appear in Go, so that be your best bet.

 

[fsiefken]

Hi ddrox, thanks for your thoughtful reply. As I mentioned I am primarily interested in playing TCG 2p (perhaps with a 3p variant as outlined on boardgamegeek) with only cards from numbers 1-149, generation 1 - I am not sure Pokemon Go overlaps completely with this but I assume it does.

Answering my own question I read that I can use anything for 10 damage tokens: cardboard circles, to pennies, to glass bead counters and a coin for flipping (from: "Building A Retro Deck" on the Retro TCG Tournament at BelleCON 2013 page). The only thing I need it says around 25 to 30 basic energy cards (only Fighting, Fire, Grass, Lightning, Psychic, and Water).
You say you need a "Flareon deck with Vespiquen" but when I search people have come up with Classic and 1st generation decks that are playable. Thanks for your suggestion about the Burning Spark deck - I see it contains 10×Lightning Energy and 8×Fire Energy - is that enough? Why would the other 'Building a Retro Deck' page (i cannot link to it directly) says 25 are required - or have there been some changes in the rules?

So thanks to your recommendation my plan is now to:
1) practice with Pokemon TCG Online and
2) buy the Burning Spark theme deck and the Night Striker theme deck to try out the game - as I want to play it with my kid I assume I need 2 decks
3) Buy Generation decks (through the aforementioned options) eventually to build a retro deck and try to collect or individually buy the most frequent or useful for a 'Pokemon Go' themed deck. Either that or go 'old school' and ask around or order 1st generation cards to construct the classic deck lists I found online.

Does this sound like a good plan to start playing with 1st generation pokemon?

 

[ddrox13]

I was kidding about the Flareon bit

Your new plan of action seems to be the most reasonable, and works just fine for casual at-home play. Might not work in tournaments, but should be fine for playing with family