Why is nintendo looked down on?

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    Many gamers have deserted Nintendo as to peer pressure saying its "childish" or "only nerds do Nintendo"

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    What do these guys have? They all have somthing in common, killing someone. Nintendo is very un-lethal and has stupid games that make gaming actually fun. Where has the time gone? discuss

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    I personally think that Nintendo has reached a new plateau of popularity by diversifying it's gamer-base with more accessible features for the casual player a la Wii. But these largely "new gamers" are *shudders* your parents and other non-gamers (such as I describe a gamer as someone who usually plays for competition). Contemporary gamers scorn Nintendo for what I think is that gamers treat gaming like its the ark of the covenant and completely exclusive for only competitive play, and that anybody who plays for fun is a n00b.

    I think Nintendo is unique in that unlike contemporary platforms it has always sought to broaden it's consumer base with innovation while other platforms specialize. I've found X-Box is really only good at FPS (with some RPG exceptions) while Playstation is really good at immersion and RPG (not that I'm saying they're lacking in FPS... lots of good choices there). In the end, though, if gamers exert peer pressure to demonize Nintendo for doing what it's always done best, it's better to ignore them and play what you like. You can't change a person, after all.
     
    It's graphics really. Most people drifted away in 2001 when the Xbox came out and had superior graphics to the gamecube. This also caused developers to drift away as well and somewhat loosen the stable base nintendo had in the 8 and 16-bit eras. The wii was really the first step towards drawing those people back and lot haven't simply because it seemed to gimmicky (lol, waggle) but also the fact that nintendo tends to be very conservative about what content is in their games. I think I've heard one swear word in a wii game and like a couple hundred on the xbox. Honestly, true gamers are ones who like game for an artistic and fun reason.

    The people who look down on Nintendo are mostly what I call "Bro Gamers" who only play their xbox for Halo and Madden NFL. Lots of people love Nintendo and Nintendo does satisify most of it's fanbase (see Legend of Zelda: Twilight Princess or Metroid: Other M for examples)
     
    It can't be graphics, I've seen some very well done shooters on Wii. The Prime example(no pun intended)is Metroid Prime 3. Granted, Nintendo had a hand in making that, and they actually know what's their system can do, but it loked fabulous, and the world was no more cramped than anything I've seen on Xbox or Playstation. What's disappointing is that, as has been said, the "hardcore" gamers(a term which has changed definitions from someone who games a lot to someone who plays violent "go kill everything" games constantly, sometimes with multiplayer)have already disregarded the Wii as being a toy for children and old people. Well, I can tell you right now that I am in the age group where everyone's playing violent games on Xbox Live(or Playstation Network, whatever floats your boat)and I like some COD and Resident Evil as much as the next guy, but quite frankly, the Wii has something about it that I think the Xbox and Playstation lost in a pool of blood.

    And then there's Microsoft and Sony's blatant attempts to rip off Nintendo's motion controls. Who's really the powerhouse console here? Doesn't seem like the one with the most processing power, not this round anyway.
     
    Yeah, the cube kinda ruined it.
     
    I think people who look down on nintendo gamers just need to lighten up and stop taking themselves so seriously. Everyone loves the wii at parties, even those who swear by their PS3, and pretend not to know the names of the original 151 pokémon.
     
    It is because Nintendo mainly makes games for children and families. Mario, Zelda, Pokemon, Kirby, Wii Sports - they are all games which appeal mainly to children and families.

    But you see most of the gamers who you will find on the internet are antisocial teenagers, who dislike all of the beautiful things in life such as families and childishness and colors and fun and wonder. They dislike Nintendo because it represents all of those things they hate. These teenagers would rather play Call of Duty and in their minds they will substitute the enemy players for their psychiatrists their classmates who bully them. I assume.
     
    Well personally, my only real issue with Nintendo is all the control gimmicks making me think twice about a game that I know might be good just because I'm afraid of it being weird to control, thus hard to play, and thus hard to enjoy.

    I've played video games since I was a little kid so it's not like I'm new to gaming, but I've never actually been good at video games let alone competitive or whatever. I kind of walk the line between 'casual' and 'hardcore' because I just play what I like 'cause it's fun and challenging but not too hard. I don't see why both types of games can't exist in harmony. The presence of 'casual' stuff isn't doing any harm. I think some people just kind of need to get off their high horses and be glad that toddlers, parents, and old people or whatever can enjoy video games just as much as the young bucks who grew up gaming.
     
    And the wii also has lots of mature games, such as resident evil, silent hill, red steel 2, no more heroes, dead space, cod modern warfare 1, metroid, monster hunter tri, house of the dead, guitar hero and in addition to all this we get to enjoy our fun-ness like kirby, mario and pokemon!!

    Best of both worlds!!
     
    Exactly. Why's that bad? Do all the "mainstream" gamers these days consider a game to be crap if it's not so gore-filled that blood could spill out of the casing?
     
    But you see most of the gamers who you will find on the internet are antisocial teenagers, who dislike all of the beautiful things in life such as families and childishness and colors and fun and wonder. They dislike Nintendo because it represents all of those things they hate. These teenagers would rather play Call of Duty and in their minds they will substitute the enemy players for their psychiatrists their classmates who bully them. I assume.
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    lol, exactly. I can't stand realistic graphics, but I love really surrealistic and colorful stuff like Mario.

    And you know, I like a lot of FPS's and that kinda stuff, but really a bunch of gore and superfluous violence concerns me when those particular anti-social teens giggle or grin when they blow somebody's brains out. They're the same lot who think evil and darkness are cool.
     
    CptnSmonge said:
    lol, exactly. I can't stand realistic graphics, but I love really surrealistic and colorful stuff like Mario.

    And you know, I like a lot of FPS's and that kinda stuff, but really a bunch of gore and superfluous violence concerns me when those particular anti-social teens giggle or grin when they blow somebody's brains out. They're the same lot who think evil and darkness are cool.
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    Emo's? ya a lot of FPS addicts are emo, and wow i didnt expect this to get replied to so fast O.o
     
    sirboulevard said:
    It's graphics really. Most people drifted away in 2001 when the Xbox came out and had superior graphics to the gamecube. This also caused developers to drift away as well and somewhat loosen the stable base nintendo had in the 8 and 16-bit eras. The wii was really the first step towards drawing those people back and lot haven't simply because it seemed to gimmicky (lol, waggle) but also the fact that nintendo tends to be very conservative about what content is in their games. I think I've heard one swear word in a wii game and like a couple hundred on the xbox. Honestly, true gamers are ones who like game for an artistic and fun reason.

    The people who look down on Nintendo are mostly what I call "Bro Gamers" who only play their xbox for Halo and Madden NFL. Lots of people love Nintendo and Nintendo does satisify most of it's fanbase (see Legend of Zelda: Twilight Princess or Metroid: Other M for examples)
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    As I had to repeat to my grade-school friends repeatedly during that era a I defended my GameCube purchase - but the GameCube had better graphics than the PlayStation 2!

    The Xbox did not blow the GameCube out of the water visually like the 360 does to the Wii now. They were comparable systems. Xbox was the most powerful, the PS2 the least, and the GCN was in the middle. The system was develop-friendly too. There are instances where the GCN version was the "home" version of a title, then ported to PS2, and optimized for Xbox.

    But developers flocked to the other consoles for a number of reasons (less so the Xbox). And really all Nintendo had for its console were Nintendo titles. Great Nintendo titles mind you, but...not a lot of variety. If you wanted an RPG, well... tough luck. Halo and Grand Theft Auto brought a lot of teens over to the other consoles. They had a market Nintendo didn't, much like Nintendo now has a market that they don't.

    And the purple lunch box look didn't help even though it had the most comfortable controller last-gen.
     
    ah, i remember the days i hated on nintendo, actually up until this e3. if you look at past conferences, nintendo actually had pretty much abandoned the "core audience", being the people who grew up on games like Ocarina of time and such,the people who play the mw2 you talk about, or the emoteens as you called them. compare the amount of actual quality games that someone over the age of 10 would enjoy on the 360 and wii, and you shall see where the hate came from or further back. i do believe that has changed though, as i stopped hating this year.
     
    I personally dislike the attitude Nintendo took a few years ago in telling gamers that they weren't their target audience anymore.

    I dislike their marketing practices as well. The most recent Nintendo advert in the UK depicts a young-adult girl playing Dragon Quest IX for DS, focusing on how you can dress up your character... It's a JRPG for flipsake! The main audience is going to be people who play JRPGs, not girls who want to dress up dolls and it's just going to alienate the latter when they find out they have to go through hours of battling before they can even change their clothes...

    That said, the DS is the nicest handheld around. The expectation to use the touchscreen for some gameplay gimmick has really pushed devs away from it though and as a result there are only a handful of third party games that aren't just a suite of minigames or 'casual' games.

    Overall, I think Nintendo is looked down on these days simply for relying on gimmicks. Don't get me wrong though, I don't see Sony or Microsoft's gimmick-based tactics any less shameful. Move and Kinect are possibly the most facepalm worthy gimmicks since the reintroduction of 3D films...
     
    Nintendo maintains an avid field of detractors because it never does anything remarkably new (nowadays), yet is one of the single largest and longest-standing producers of video games on the planet. It doesn't cost much to make Super Mario Bros 18067, especially with the profit of doing it at least ten times a year, so where is all that money going?

    Personally I only saw particular appeal to Nintendo's franchises as a child; I don't look for a reason to hate the commercial giant nowadays but it's difficult to appreciate either.
     
    Cassino said:
    Nintendo maintains an avid field of detractors because it never does anything remarkably new (nowadays), yet is one of the single largest and longest-standing producers of video games on the planet. It doesn't cost much to make Super Mario Bros 18067, especially with the profit of doing it at least ten times a year, so where is all that money going?

    Personally I only saw particular appeal to Nintendo's franchises as a child; I don't look for a reason to hate the commercial giant nowadays but it's difficult to appreciate either.
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    The jump from lucky to get one new installment in the Mario franchise a year to at least ten is awfully large.
     
    It's all the bad the third party games, I think. And the "Lol wii is only for sport/swinging games" thought. And of course the fact that PS3 and the 360 are more powerful.
    Those are all the reasons ppl need to laugh at the wii.
     
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