Working On a Fire Red Team

[StrickeN]

Ok i'm working on a fire red ingame team.

Idon't care about EV's or Natures, as I feel that takes away the challenge of a game for me, so don't give me hogwash like thatp lease.


I just want team advice. Also, I'm trying to use people ingame I don't usually use.


Team as is with 5 Badges.

Blastoise
-Surf
-Water Pulse
-Rapid Sping
-Bite

He originally had mega punchbut due to a fail he now has.... rapid spin yay:D
I'm using because I ALWAYs use Charizard, and I wanted to give him a try. To be quite honest though, Idon't like him. He's slow and generally the weakest on my team. I might consider replacing him, as I don't really care for starters that much anyway.

Raticate
-Super Fang
-Hyper Beam
-Dig
-Strength

Ok I knowwhat you are thinking. Stupid Right? As one of the biggest meta gamers around I gave this pokemon Hyper Beam AND an HM move? Well Thanks to STAB Strength is a beautiful 120 Base which I like. It also has perfect accuracy, which I liked more than Ultra Fang. Super Fang was just filler, but I really like hyper beam. Seeing as Fire Red makes all normal type attack phyiscal and I happened to get an Adament Raticate first try? Hyper Beam is great. Especially with switch advantage. I really like Raticate and he has helped me power my way through so many things. I'd like a better moveset though. Suggestions open.

Electabuzz
-Psychic
-Thunderpunch
-Light Screen
-Brick Break

Ok now now now.. I'm really liking this guy. He's just simply PRO TO THE MAX.
Psychic was taught simply for team rocket and all the stupidity they implore so this I like a heck of a lot. Tpunch is just there till tbolt comes my way and brick break well I just needed a fighting move. I'm NOT replacing Electabuzz. I like him way to much now. Never used him, but utterly regret that now. Just moveset suggestions are open.

Flareon
-Toxic
-Bite
-Fire Spin
-Quick Attack

ugh. I was tryingto think of suitable fire type and I had the idea of flareon. She kinda sucks. She's not doing much for me at all and I'd love a replacment that wasn't named arcanine.


Dragonair
-Dragon Rage
-Shock Wave
-Twave
-Slam

Dragonair is just toooo cool to pass up. Got it asa dratini from the game corner and leveled it up. Now I love her. Her moveset does seem piss-poor so suggestions are more than welcome here.

Vileplume
-Giga Drain
-Acid
-Bullet Seed
-Sleep Powder

I like Vileplume, he's cool and all but heseems to be lacking. I'm thinking once again in move pool. Suggestions more than welcome.



You may suggest any replacement for anything except for dragonair and electabuzz, I'mkeeping those two. Any other suggestions feel more than welcome :D

 

[Arc]

Just a Fire Red in-game team? Oh all right, I will try to critique this team.

Blastoise.

His moveset seems decent not bad, but not good. So I can't suggest anything to make him better. But if you are planning to ditch Blastoise might I suggest that you pick up a Poilwrath as a replacement. It has fairly good, speed, above average attack, and good balanced stats overall.

Raticate.

Raticate is fine, as it is. It has two powerful moves Strength and Hyper Beam. It also has a hiding attack dig. But Super Fang doesn't seem to helpful when you already have two good moves already. I suggest, Endeavor.

Electabuzz.

Your Electabuzz is fine. I don't see anything wrong with it.

Flareon.

Well, this pokemon isn't good. But if you don't want a Arcanine I would suggest getting a Rapidash. If not, I can't help make any suggestions for Flareon.

Dragonair.

At this point when it is still a Dragonair. All the moves I would suggest are only for Dragonite. so I can't really help you, but if you manage to get your hands on a Ice Beam, I would suggest you give that to Dragonair, or even Flamethrower.

Vileplume.

I would recommend Sludge Bomb, so you have a better Poison attack. I would also say get rid of Bullet Seed for Synthesis, but thats your call since you already have Giga Drain.

Anyways finished making my suggestions for your team. Hope you like them.

 

[StrickeN]

I think Poliwrath would be a very good switch for Toise. Seeing as I've never used him but he's pretty cool all the same. I think I'll do that.


Flareon does blow. Rapidash I've never tried so that seems cool. Maybe with Sunny Day / Solar Beam / Fire Blast / -filler-


Dragonair is only 10 levels from Nite. I just haven't gotten to training him yet. I'musing my vs seeker south of fuchisca to train Electabuzz at themoment. He's level 50. Going for 55 then moving on to probably getting D-Nite

I would think sludge Bomb would be cool. Giving him Synthesis would also be good but I don't know when he learns it. I don't know where to get sludge bomb TM as well. If you know let me know :P This is before I even try to fight Sabrina because atm, she'd stroke me easily.

Thanks for the advice. You gave me some good ideas.

 

[Safetyfirst]

Blastoise doesnt want both Water pluse & Surf, sub out Water pulse for something, and rapid spin is bad.Flareon wants Flamethrower > Fire SpinRaticate doesnt want Hyper Beam, STAB Strength is good enough power.Vileplume wants Razor Leaf > Bullet Seed.Kgl

 

[StrickeN]

Double STAB is good lol. Raticate also has a piss poor movepool ;)

Blastoise isn't even staying. I've fully decided on ditching him ;D. He sucks honestly.

Flareon is also going. She's level 40 with no fire move learned but fire spin, and I haven't made enough $$ for both ice beam for dnair and fthrow. So no no.

 

[Arc]

All the information I had for Vileplume were wrong, so just clarifying somethings Vileplume gets MoonLight instead, but learns it when its a Gloom at Level 35. Sludge Bomb, is gonna be pretty far in the game, to get it. As you get it at Island 5 on the Sevii Isles.

 

[jab2033]

How about Moltres for a Flareon replacement? You may have already decided on Rapidash, but Moltres can be pretty decent. Of course, the earliest you can find it is on Sevii Island One after getting your seventh badge. Just say yes to Bill when he talks to you. Bring lots of Ultra Balls. 25+ at least.

 

[Charizard3]

Ur team is pretty good and u should probably switch blastoise for something else, but, when i used blastoise in my fire red (got all 3 starters) i never had a problem with it, especially if u can teach it blizzard or ice beam. ive never seen anyone make good use of a vileplume, but u look like u can do that. Electabuzz and dragonair are fine, but it might get annoying not having a pokemon know fly until dragonair is lvl 55, so u should probably take out raticate for a flying pokemon (a legendary bird if u want to and can) or use an hm slave if u havent yet and flareon is ok if u get it to a pretty high level, but training for the frlg e4 is very annoying so u probably want an arcanine or rapidash.

 

[StrickeN]

I'm actually considering Moltres. I've always liked it, but never really gave it a try.

I however, am not ditching Raticate. It's just too cool :P.

Also, I did some research on Vileplume last night. It actually can learn synthesis through breeding but I did notice I missed out on Moonlight. I evolved Gloom too early. I'll try to make do at the moment. It did learn petal dance but considering I have giga, I"m thinking of swapping acid out for Sunny and giving it solar > petal.That wayI have a recovery move. The problem with this however is friggin lowering water type moves but it would be quite useful for Lorlei even though she's ice, her water att's would get screwed.


Training before E4 isn't that hard. I have 2 really great vs seeker spots I train at the only require 5 badges. Plume / electabuzz is currently level 50,and i'm working on Dnair now.

Moltres / Rapidash / Magmar are my 3 choices and I have a hard time deciding which to go for :P

 

[Sydian]

Blastoise
-Surf
-Water Pulse
-Rapid Sping
-Bite

I assume you have Rapid Spin as an accident? It's not nearly as useful in-game as it is in competitive play. I also recommend Ice Beam > Water Pulse. I'm not too much in favor of having two of the same type moves, unless one has low PP. For example, if you had Hydro Cannon and Surf. That would be understandable. There are better water types imo, but Blastoise doesn't fall short of too many in generation III, so I'd just stick with it.

Raticate
-Super Fang
-Hyper Beam
-Dig
-Strength

C:

I really have no suggestions. Even though I said I'm not in favor of more than two of the same type move, another exception to that is Normal Pokemon with Normal type moves. You might consider Swords Dance > Dig in the future, but you can't get SD til 7 Island I think.

Flareon
-Toxic
-Bite
-Fire Spin
-Quick Attack

NO! Level that sweet heart up and do not replace that, or I will hunt you down. >:C Either buy a ton of coins and get TM35 (Flamethrower) or get her to level 52 for it. Scrap Fire Spin. Also, someone can teach it Double-Edge in Victory Road. I think Quick Attack is good for a quick KO, but Flareon's attack power is good enough for Double Edge. I just recommend sticking a Leftovers to it if you do choose that path.

Dragonair
-Dragon Rage
-Shock Wave
-Twave
-Slam

Ouch. Thunderbolt > Shock Wave, when you can. Keep Thunder Wave. Slam can go in favor of...well, I don't know honestly. When it evolves, get Fly > Slam I suppose. But speaking of evolving, I highly, highly recommend waiting til level 56 (just one more level more) to evolve it, as Dragonair learns Outrage at 56, and Dragonite learns it at an unfortunate 61. Or evolve it at 55 and pick up the TM for Dragon Claw in Victory Road.

Vileplume
-Giga Drain
-Acid
-Bullet Seed
-Sleep Powder

You get Sludgebomb at 5 Island in the Rocket Warehouse, so I guess keep Acid til then. :/ Bullet Seed is laughable, though. I think it would have been a better move to keep it as a Gloom til it learned Moonlight. I'd rather have a two recovery moves than Bullet Seed of all things. Also, I really hate Giga Drain, especially in generation III and back. Only 5 PP for an attack with a base power of 60? Pssh. If you plan on keeping it instead of learning Petal Dance at 44, at least tack on every PP Up you find.

Hope I helped! Saw nothing wrong with Electabuzz, so I didn't mention anything.

 

[StrickeN]

The only reason he knows Bullet Seed was because it out did Absorb and didn't learn anything new for a long time :P. I also, didn't realize I was missing out on moonlight. He's already level 50, so.. idk whether to use my other Oddish ornot. But the other oneis level 13 /wrist.

Really wish I had moonlight though, that'd be pretty cool. But I'll just deal.

I already had my mind set on evolving dnair at 56 :P outrage ftw right? I'm even holding a candy for that purpose xD

That suggestion for flareon isn't half bad to be honest. I MIGHT just stick with it. It'd makeme feel better anyway since I leveled it up to 42 off of lead->switch in because I didn't have exp share at the time xD.

Thanks for the tip Sydian. Back to poer leveling. Later \o

#edit

Oh yeah, rapid spin was an accident lol. I was just hitting A while watching t.v. and accidentally removed mega punch for it.