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Would PBR have been better with an RPG mode?

Should PBR have had an RPG mode>

  • Yes

    Votes: 93 80.2%

  • No

    Votes: 23 19.8%
  • Total voters
    116
Hm... well, PBR was really stupid, i mean all you do is upload your pokemon then battle online, basically like everyone else is saying a "A online version of pkmn Stadium" with just updated Graphics, i also agree with "Nintendo NEED TO STOP using Genius Sonority and just have Nintendo & GameFreak work on them like with the handheld titles and make a 3D Pokemon game worth playing." SO to answer the topics Question yea, i thing there should have been a RPG, Also i have never seen a game that was actually good, that was made with Genius Sonority.
 
EmpoleMew said:
Best. Post. Ever.

Basically, this is what PBR is to me. Its a game that has nearly identical graphics to the GC titles. It has a name that attracts interest but the game itself is a worthless piece of I don't even know what and a waste of the materials(sp?) to make each disc. It was a waste of time to make. Nintendo and Game Freak keep screwing themselves over when they make games with Genius. And the announcer sounds like he's some guy with nothing better to do in his life.

"It went down!"
"It couldn't survive the second hit!"
"Pokemon restored its health!"
"Pokemon is STILL gaining health!"
"BAM!"

Bam? When exactly did Bamm-Bamm from The Flintstones become the announcer? And if you don't have a DS and D/P, the game sucks harder than ever. If I wanted to go through endless battles using rental Pokemon, I'd play my Emerald and go to the Battle Factory. The only thing that is good about PBR is the fact that you can battle random people on Wi-Fi instead of typing in Friend Codes all the time. And then what? Some stupid n00b goes and ruins it with hacked Pokemon like Wondertomb and Arceus. Or even worse, the Six-Man Uber Squad. Then they think they're so strong. Then when you meet them on forums and tell them that using ubers is cheap, they want to cry and throw a tantrum and start flame wars. In the end, they either disregard the comments and go on being a n00b or kill themselves.

In a nutshell: PBR could burn in the hottest incinerator and it still wouldn't be enough to destroy this horrible monstrosity. Its games like these that give Pokemon a bad name.

End Rant.
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See? Your the problem. You make a post so big, it can't fit in my sig.

This post sums up my feelings of the game in a COMPLETE nutshell, but ya left some things out

1)$50 Price Tag for a cheap expansion
2)Pitiful graphics for something ONLY boasting 3D

This post is my favorite so far.
 
I say no, because I wanted PBR just like pokemon stadium 1 and 2, but no that never came out to be the way I thought it would be...
 
sims796 said:
See? Your the problem. You make a post so big, it can't fit in my sig.

This post sums up my feelings of the game in a COMPLETE nutshell, but ya left some things out

1)$50 Price Tag for a cheap expansion
2)Pitiful graphics for something ONLY boasting 3D

This post is my favorite so far.
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When I rant, I express all my feelings. I didn't expect my post to be so...
I guess you could say, moving.

PBR is $50? :shocked: Man, they are con artists to sell that pitiful excuse for a game for that much.

Glad you liked my post that much.
 
The graphics in the game are not nearly as bad as everyone is giving them credit for. Sure, some of the 1st gen Pokemon look kinda ugly, but really, people hardly ever use the ugly Pokemon hidden deep within the game. Who the hell uses Weepinbell or Likitung and their low-poly gloriness? They're both blocky as hell, but who cares, you're hardly ever going to see them, only in single player mode, and if you're busy playing that, kill yourself, because I'll be the first to admit, I wanted to rip my hair out due to boredom while gaining access to all the colosseums. (Which don't look THAT bad by the way.) But really, the Pokemon you're going to be facing online almost every time you battle (Ex. Salamance, Garchomp, Electrivire, Gengar, etc.) look perfectly fine. The game adds a shine to them that actually makes them look rather impressive. Hell, even first gen Pokemon like Arcanine have been given a MASSIVE makeover.

To make things simple...

The game is NOT ugly.

The game is NOT pretty.

The game is overall unimpressive.

It's completely average and mediocre at everything it does. The online's meh, the graphics are passable (but NOT ugly), and the overall package has "Wait 'till I'm 20 bucks!" written all over it.
 
Pride Reaper said:
The graphics in the game are not nearly as bad as everyone is giving them credit for. Sure, some of the 1st gen Pokemon look kinda ugly, but really, people hardly ever use the ugly Pokemon hidden deep within the game. Who the hell uses Weepinbell or Likitung and their low-poly gloriness? They're both blocky as hell, but who cares, you're hardly ever going to see them, only in single player mode, and if you're busy playing that, kill yourself, because I'll be the first to admit, I wanted to rip my hair out due to boredom while gaining access to all the colosseums. (Which don't look THAT bad by the way.) But really, the Pokemon you're going to be facing online almost every time you battle (Ex. Salamance, Garchomp, Electrivire, Gengar, etc.) look perfectly fine. The game adds a shine to them that actually makes them look rather impressive. Hell, even first gen Pokemon like Arcanine have been given a MASSIVE makeover.

To make things simple...

The game is NOT ugly.

The game is NOT pretty.

The game is overall unimpressive.

It's completely average and mediocre at everything it does. The online's meh, the graphics are passable (but NOT ugly), and the overall package has "Wait 'till I'm 20 bucks!" written all over it.
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I have to disagree with the graphics comment. Maybe I have been a bit too harsh, howver, I cannot call them passable. Despite the fact that no one will use those pokes, it doesn't excuse the fact that they look like that. Saying "They got the majority right" isn't good enough. Arcanine's paws looks more squared than Richard Nixon at Marti Gras. What if a casul player comes along, & decides to play with Likintung, with Weepingbell? You're a pokefan, so its understandable that it doesn't phase you much. However, unlike Stadium, this doesn't cater to others comming along to play. It BARELY caters to Pokefans.
 
No, I think its fine staying the way it is as a D/P Battling upgrade
 
omahcakaw said:
The price point, however, remains as an obstacle for a simple "Battling upgrade".
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The fact that they think they can get away with charging this simple "expansion" as a full fledge game is pretty insulting.
 
sims796 said:
The fact that they think they can get away with charging this simple "expansion" as a full fledge game is pretty insulting.
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My thoughts Exactly.
SOME pokemon fans see "Pokemon" stapled on the front and instantly say, "I want it!"
Thank goodness I'm not that gullible.

Anyway, PBR ,in my opinion, is very lacking. I think I would have more fun completing a storyline and getting "special" pokemon than pure battling. I think its only saving grace(and originality) was the 3 gifts and character cuztomization; and even with that, it is barely worth $20.
I wouldn't get it, as I rather spend my cash on better titles(Twilight Princess, Brawl, etc...)
Its sure to be a parent's-money-plucker, but that's it.

To other posters: Some of you are a little too harsh. After all, what can you possibly expect out of a sole battling game?
 
The simple answer is yes. Pokemon is an RPG, and for an RPG to consist solely of battle after battle is just laziness on the developers' parts, and an insult to everything that RPGs stand for.

I love how people keep calling Pokemon a fighting/battling game. It makes me laugh my --- off each time I read a post with that claim.

sims796 said:
The fact that they think they can get away with charging this simple "expansion" as a full fledge game is pretty insulting.
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You hit the nail right on the head.
 
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I'm not sure. A Wii Pokemon RPG would be nice, but with PBR it would probably turn out just the same as Collo/XD (which I generally enjoyed, but they were WAY too short and easy). I just recently got it, and so far it's not been too disappointing. They probably will make another Pokemon Wii game that's gonna be an RPG, but for now, Battle Revolution serves as just an entertaining D/P edition. As for the graphics debates, that really is the only let-down I've felt for it (though I don't usually care how crappy graphics are as long as the game is fun enough). I mean, it's a Wii. Not a N64. They could at the very least re-do the old Pokemon images from way back when; I believe one of the first Pokemon I saw used on PBR was Charmeleon and I almost freaked out when I saw that they were still using the Charmelon from Stadium one. Nintendo could get away with that back then, because Stadium 1 and 2 really were "Revolutions", but now we've seen it before, and we as Pokemon fans expect a new and better game to replace Stadium.
 
Skii said:
Its hardly overrated.

More like underrated.

Everyone is saying its a waste of time, there is no point and it is a rubbish game when it actually beats the crap out of alot of games.
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Agreed. An RPG mode would kill this game.

Being able to battle anyone around the world without having to trade Friend Codes and getting a Friend Pass out of it is great. 3D battles are great. Battling without fear of nooby hacked Pokémon and their stupid Trainers (if they are even worthy of the title) rushing in to try and own you with AR coding crap is great. Having no minigames to distract you is great. Having all different kinds of battles is great (Neon and Waterfall Colosseums are good examples). Being able to customize your Trainer and Battle Pass is great. Being able to get Electivire and Magmortar for Pokédex data without trading or finding the Magmarizer and Electirizer is great. Getting a Pikachu that knows Surf is great, especially since that's been looked forward to since Pokémon Stadium was made obsolete with Ruby and Sapphire. Being able to get TMs and other items that are otherwise 1 per DS Pokémon game or extremely rare is great. Being able to use your own Pokémon and not always Rental Passes is great.

And the graphics are NOT terrible. Yes, they could have been better, but it's not like Mewtwo looks like your great grandmother's naked butt. So don't complain that Pokémon Battle Revolution's graphics "suck", because they don't. The graphics would get a 7/10 score, compared to the 10/10 score a game like Super Smash Bros. Brawl or Metroid Prime 3: Corruption would get.

It is called Pokémon Battle Revolution for a reason. It's not meant to have an RPG mode. It is NOT crap. It is NOT just fanservice. It is NOT just something to buy for the sake of having a full collection of Pokémon video games. It is NOT "just an expansion".

It lives up to its name, and therefore is a true video game on its own. If you can't/don't appreciate this game, you have no right to call yourself a Pokémon Trainer.

That's my opinion.

And by the way, Pokémon Colosseum and Pokémon XD: Gale of Darkness didn't suck either. The first gave us a nice break from the usual type of hero, and granted us Wes, the rogue who left Team Snagem and saved the Orre Region from a shadowy disaster. Pokémon XD: Gale of Darkness was also the only way to get stuff like Tri Attack on Togepi and Heal Bell on Articuno, which provided more battle possibilities in the GBA games. Shadow Lugia was amazing, too.
 
They could have at least added you walking to the different colosseums from the airport. That would have made it slightly better...
 
I think its perfect the way it is. It's one of thoughs game when you just kick back and relax with a nice battle thats all...
 
sims796 said:
Out of what games? Its the same thing as D/P. The exact same thing, only less. Wow. 3D battles. Too cool. D/P has Wi-fi matches, without all the random crap of noobs using hacked Judgement Wondertombs. I know, WTF.

The thing that kills it for me are the graphics. Come on. Yes, there should be fur textured. There should be a tad bit more realism. They just got lazy this time around. When Grotlye opened his maw, is was basically square, as if he was a robot.

Did you see Diddy Kong's fuur on Brawl? How the fur on the Ice Climber's Parka's [coats] looked? You can appreciate every stitch on Waluigi's overalls. Link looks grity (in a good way) from battle. Plus, on those when the Gamecube's trophy turned into Wii fighters, they showed the improvement.

So why the hell does PBR look like crap? You are only lying to yourself when you say those graphics are good. Compare that with Brawl RE4, Twilight Princess, Galaxy. Then try to tell me that PBR looks good. I can no longer take your opinions seriously if you say its good. & its not the Wii's fault. No. Even with limited power, it still makes games beautiful, by making it crisp, & vibrant.

The reason they keep shelling half-arsed games like PBR is because pokemaniacs buy it no matter what. No, that's only half truthful. I'm a pokemaniac, & even I hate it. So only the one's who MUST buy every bit of new game would buy that. Like Naruto games. They keep shelling out more, sometimes, they don't even try, but they buy it. Only this time, they released it as a full fleged title at that price, when its only an expansion. Which is the problem. If gamers keep running to the store paying whatever price just because Pikachu's on the box, they will continute to shell out half baked-no, half done-games. Consumers should demand better made games, by not buying those cheap knockoffs.



And omahcaw, you've given me no choice but to put that post of yours in my sig. Too true.

I realized I never answered the question! Why should they waste time putting in an RPG? That's what Diamond/Pearl is for.
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You sir have just earned my upmost respect, I couldn't agree more.
The GCN could manage PBRs graphics. As far as I can tell, some of the first Gens still use the N64 graphics, though I am not certain of this.

"They even whinge about the graphics and the fact that the Pokemon don't have fur shading, texturing and all that crap."
What's wrong with wanting semi decent graphics from a console that can easily do it? Especially since it's such a poor stand alone game in general, it could of at least looked nice.
 
yes shouldve had an RPG. the colleseums shouldve just been like mini games. an RPG wouldve made this game longer, more interesting, and way more fun.

graphics arent that bad but could be better. everyone complains about the graphics and i think they have a right to. i personaly think they (people who created PBR) expected more kids than teenagers to play this so thats probably why the graphics are somewhat crappy.
 
.:Kaku:. said:
You sir have just earned my upmost respect, I couldn't agree more.
The GCN could manage PBRs graphics. As far as I can tell, some of the first Gens still use the N64 graphics, though I am not certain of this.

"They even whinge about the graphics and the fact that the Pokemon don't have fur shading, texturing and all that crap."
What's wrong with wanting semi decent graphics from a console that can easily do it? Especially since it's such a poor stand alone game in general, it could of at least looked nice.
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Thank you. If the game is only about 3d battling, ONLY 3D BATTLING, the "3D" part should be superb.

But evilcheese has a point. An unfortunate point. On the fact that this is mainly for kids. Still, I would only buy this for a punishment for the brats.
 
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