[YGO] Amphibians Pwn

[Apple Juice]

Amphibians Pwn (Frog Deck)

Creator: Apple Juice
Deck type: Advanced
Deck: Frog Beatdown
Total: 42
Extra Total: 2

The main strategy of this deck is to get out Wetlands as quickly as possible (x3 of it and Terraforming for the win) and use Substitoad to swarm the field. Spiritual Water Art and Froggy Forcefield, Dupe Frog, and Level Limit Area B help lockdown the opponent to protect the frogs (Also, Unifrog can attack him directly for 1600 and then destroy a spell or trap).
Treeborn does NOT work in this build, because the whole point is having Wetlands out, so yeah.

Also, Stardust is ONLY because of Starlight Road.

Monsters
Substitoad x3
Dupe Frog x3
Flip Flop Frog x2
Swap Frog x3
Unifrog x3
Mother Grizzly x3
Junk Synchron x1

Spells
Level Limit - Area B x1
One for One x1
Pot of Avarice x1
Terraforming x3
Wetlands x3
Solidarity x1
Mystical Space Typhoon x1
Heavy Storm x1
Swords of Revealing Light x1
Brain Control x1
Scapegoat x1

Traps
Mirror Force x1
Solemn Judgment x1
Aegis of the Ocean Dragon Lord x3
Gravity Bind x1
Starlight Road x1
Bottomless Trap Hole x2

Extra Deck
Stardust Dragon
Junk Warrior

 

[Cirrus]

...Or, you know, you could play Frog FTK/Frog OTK/Frog Monarchs.

Frog beatdown doesn't work all that well because of the unreliability of Wetlands + Solidarity (Heavy Storm = gg, Hyunlei = gg, et cetera) and though I used to run it in the past, Frog OTK/FTK and Monarchs are better choices in the current meta, I think.

Other than that it's interesting. And decent for casual play.

Just remember to cut the Spiritual Water Arts, Des Croaking, Broken Blocker and Inferno Reckless Summon (as well as copies of Aegis) for the staples and such - TT, Mirror, Heavy, Brain Control, BTH, and such.

 

[Eternal Nightmare]

As Cirrus stated the relability of Wetlands can hurt your deck especially woth Heavy Storm being a common staple these days. I guess that's what Starlight Road is there for right? But what about a Giant Trunade can bounce it right back to your hand or a mystical space typhoon or dust tornado which can hurt considering how weak in power these frogs are :/. Other than that its a great build and I really wouldn't mind dueling this deck using my Gemini Deck xD. Oh I also would like to reccommend...

Junk Warrior- a great synchro for this deck considering frogs are level 2 or lower. With wetlands giving those frogs a 1200 power boost, Junk Warrior will gain there attack power resulting in a large atk point boost. Synchro summoning for him is also a breeze with a Junk Synchron in the deck. Summon Junk Synchron and special summon a level 2 frog in your graveyard to easily facilitate a synchro summon. Its just a suggestion though n_n.

 

[Apple Juice]

...Or, you know, you could play Frog FTK/Frog OTK/Frog Monarchs.

Yes I do know... Who dosen't?

Frog beatdown doesn't work all that well because of the unreliability of Wetlands + Solidarity (Heavy Storm = gg, Hyunlei = gg, et cetera) and though I used to run it in the past, Frog OTK/FTK and Monarchs are better choices in the current meta, I think.

I have Starlight Road anyways. :{ But you make a good point.

Other than that it's interesting. And decent for casual play.

Although not what I was going for (I'm competitive, but this isn't competitive build anyways) thanks.

Just remember to cut the Spiritual Water Arts, Des Croaking, Broken Blocker and Inferno Reckless Summon (as well as copies of Aegis) for the staples and such - TT, Mirror, Heavy, Brain Control, BTH, and such.

Spiritual gives good hand control for Heavy, MST, and others, Des I was shaky on anyways, same with Broken Blocker and Inferno. Aegis protects the froggies, and about the staples: 4 mirror forces is pretty overkill, aint it? (Froggy Forcefield)

I guess I'll try to make a better build, mabye make an OTK... Eternal, thanks for the comment. Actually quite a nice Junk Warrior idea; I might test it out on YVD. Thanks!

Updating build.

 

[Cirrus]

You should actually take out a Froggy Forcefield if you don't want to run 4 Mirrors and run 1 Mirror in its place. In fact you should probably play Dimensional Prison and cut Froggy Forcefield altogether due to Stardust Dragon stopping the latter as well as monster bouncing/removal hindering FF.

Aegis I'd cut a copy of and put in something else. But Idunno.

 

[Apple Juice]

I'm totally redoing this build, and so far I still think x3 Aegis is pretty good, but if something good comes up, I'll take out one. I agree, Froggy Forcefield is starting to seem a little bit too situational for my taste. Dimensional Prison = how much $ again?

Also, I need people's opinions: Is Poision Draw Frog good for Substitoad bait even though it misses it's timing?

Also, added a Scapegoat for the Substigoat combo. Is Swords worth it in this build (for stall)

EDIT: Might have to take Solemn out cause I've been searching for one within my budget and simply can't find one (yes I know, it's nooby enough that I don't own one)... Anyways, suggestions for things that might replace solemn?

 

[Cirrus]

Dimensional Prison should be a few quarters. It was released in the Machina Mayhem structure deck as a Common. :D

Swords isn't really, really worth it... it gets blown up by Heavy Storm, etc, and it's not really chainable or anything so. Lyla tells it to go die in a hole, Hyunlei tells it to go die in a hole, etc etc.

Solemn should be about twenty at most for the Gold Rare version... well, Idunno. Dark Bribe could replace it, but that's just subpar. Dark Bribe should be a Common too released in the Warrior's Strike structure.

Miscellaneous advice:

Cut a copy of Terra for Pot, cut a copy of Swords for Torrential, and maybe cut a copy of Aegis for Solidarity. (More consistency)

 

[Apple Juice]

Dimensional Prison should be a few quarters. It was released in the Machina Mayhem structure deck as a Common. :D

All these prices are from a website I use to order cards.
Dprison: $5.99 (T_T but affordable)

Swords isn't really, really worth it... it gets blown up by Heavy Storm, etc, and it's not really chainable or anything so. Lyla tells it to go die in a hole, Hyunlei tells it to go die in a hole, etc etc.

Took it out.

Solemn should be about twenty at most for the Gold Rare version... well, Idunno. Dark Bribe could replace it, but that's just subpar. Dark Bribe should be a Common too released in the Warrior's Strike structure.

Solemn: $21.99
Dark Bribe: $4.99
Soo yeah. XD
I'll prob just go buy Warrior's Strike instead...

SO.
Miscellaneous advice:

Cut a copy of Terra for Pot, cut a copy of Swords for Torrential, and maybe cut a copy of Aegis for Solidarity. (More consistency)

Did everything cuz I'm trying real hard to make this at least locals worthy... XD

 

[The Cynic]

Add in Ronintoadin . He is the perfect fodder for Substitoads effect because he can just be special summoned again allowing easy swarmming. Swap Frog can send cards to the graveyard so that it can keep using its effect. Also once Wetlands is out, use Shield & Sword or Inverse Universe to make him have 3500ATK! In order to have room to run a few copies of this card you might want to get rid of Pot of Avarice just so that you have a good graveyard feedstock.

 

[Apple Juice]

Add in Ronintoadin . He is the perfect fodder for Substitoads effect because he can just be special summoned again allowing easy swarmming. Swap Frog can send cards to the graveyard so that it can keep using its effect. Also once Wetlands is out, use Shield & Sword or Inverse Universe to make him have 3500ATK! In order to have room to run a few copies of this card you might want to get rid of Pot of Avarice just so that you have a good graveyard feedstock.

Ronintoadin is mostly only useful in Des Frog OTK/FTK, but I say where you're going with that. Pot of Avarice helps Substitoad with draw power and keeping Frogs out of the graveyard. Solidarity and United We Stand also boost the frogs power, so Shield & Sword/Inverse Universe wouldn't work that well.

I'm thinking about adding a Cyromancer of the Ice Barrier because it's a tuner that's effected by Wetlands (would have 2500 ATK).

 

[Cirrus]

Well Cryomancer is interesting, but as I said Frogs don't tune. :( It's usually a -2 or more for the deck, whose monsters are fairly low in level. Ronintoadin is always good, because it's a free Special Summon and Frogs don't really use the Graveyard much other than using Pot.

I still think Frogs need Monarchs backup.

 

[Apple Juice]

I already have a lot of Ronintoadin, so that's not a problem to testplay. Once I finish my beatdown build, I'll try out monarchs.

What about Junk Synchron?

EDIT: So guys, I've been playing around with Frognarchs, and because making another thread would not be nesseceray, I'm posting it here. Please r/r.

Monsters:
Substitoad x3
Swap Frog x3
Treeborn Frog x2
Ronintoadin x1
Caius the Shadow Monarch x3
Raiza the Storm Monarch x3
Thestalos the Firestorm Monarch x3
Light and Darkness Dragon x3
Battle Fader x3
Gorz the Emissary of Darkness x1
Jinzo x1
Vanity's Fiend x1

Spells:
Soul Exchange x3
Enemy Controller x3
Mystical Space Typhoon x1
Heavy Storm x1
Brain Control x1

Traps:
Spiritual Water Art - Aoi x3
P. Wing Blast x1

Total : 40
(no links because most of these are same cards as above)

 

[Cirrus]

Alright, alright.

1. That tribute-monster sandwich is waaaaay too large. D: Vanity's Fiend? What deck are we running here? Jinzo too?

Typical Monarchs lineup is usually... Triple Caius triple Raiza double Thestalos double LaDD. Say it three times fast in a row. It sounds great. (Ok, maybe NOT the Thestalos part...)

Dupe Frog is nice as a wall, to be honest, and tribute fodder as well. Battlefader should be a two-of, at most. Ronintoadin is the right number. Spells look sort-of-ok-ish.

Cut most of your tributes. Add in maybe a copy or two of Pot of Avarice (pot is like fine wine - the decks that use it enjoy it very much and run it happily, and the decks that don't are either epic enough without or suck), though I don't really think it's needed here. You're lacking many staple traps - 2 BTH, 1 TT, 1 Mirror, and sometimes one Solemn is usually staple. As I said Aoi is kind of bad D:.

TBH I'd do something like this

Monsters - 24
3 Caius the Shadow Monarch
3 Raiza the Storm Monarch
2 Thestalos the Firestorm Monarch
2 Light and Darkness Dragon
3 Dupe Frog
3 Substitoad
3 Swap Frog
2 Treeborn Frog
1 Ronintoadin
1 Battlefader

Spells - 10
3 Soul Exchange
2 Book of Moon
1 My Body As A Shield
1 Brain Control
1 Heavy Storm
1 Mystical Space Typhoon
1 One for One

Traps - 4
2 Bottomless Trap Hole
1 Torrential Tribute
1 Mirror Force

Which leaves about 2 cards' space for you to play around with.

That's what I think on the topic of frogs + monarchs, anyway.

 

[Apple Juice]

Alright, alright.

1. That tribute-monster sandwich is waaaaay too large. D: Vanity's Fiend? What deck are we running here? Jinzo too?

Okay, so I went to another forum with this build for Frognarchs, and I got like 20 comments and I decided to put 'em all together to see what everyone here thinks. I personally did not like the idea of Vanity's Fiend or Jinzo either, but it struck them as useful in this build.

Typical Monarchs lineup is usually... Triple Caius triple Raiza double Thestalos double LaDD. Say it three times fast in a row. It sounds great. (Ok, maybe NOT the Thestalos part...)

Double LADD? Hmm, well I do only have two so no objection there.

Dupe Frog is nice as a wall, to be honest, and tribute fodder as well. Battlefader should be a two-of, at most. Ronintoadin is the right number. Spells look sort-of-ok-ish.

Thank you on the spells (I think)
Dupe Frog was on my original build but half of the members on the other forum said it was useless. Battlefaders are already super pricey, so no objection there either.

Cut most of your tributes. Add in maybe a copy or two of Pot of Avarice (pot is like fine wine - the decks that use it enjoy it very much and run it happily, and the decks that don't are either epic enough without or suck), though I don't really think it's needed here. You're lacking many staple traps - 2 BTH, 1 TT, 1 Mirror, and sometimes one Solemn is usually staple. As I said Aoi is kind of bad D:.

I was thinking that too many traps would corrupt the Treeborn Frog loop (bring back treeborn-tribute) so I didn't put the usuals in. Aoi isn't that bad. It sort of gives you hand advantage. Pot is a pretty good idea, but you want to keep Ronintoadin and Treeborn in the grave, correct?

TBH I'd do something like this

Monsters - 24
3 Caius the Shadow Monarch
3 Raiza the Storm Monarch
2 Thestalos the Firestorm Monarch
2 Light and Darkness Dragon
3 Dupe Frog
3 Substitoad
3 Swap Frog
2 Treeborn Frog
1 Ronintoadin
1 Battlefader

Spells - 10
3 Soul Exchange
2 Book of Moon
1 My Body As A Shield
1 Brain Control
1 Heavy Storm
1 Mystical Space Typhoon
1 One for One

Traps - 4
2 Bottomless Trap Hole
1 Torrential Tribute
1 Mirror Force

Tbh, that's almost exactly my original build, -the MBaaS and BoMs.

Which leaves about 2 cards' space for you to play around with.

That's what I think on the topic of frogs + monarchs, anyway.

Thanks so much for this Cirrus, it helped me alot! I was kind of shaky about most of the tribute monsters anyways, but meh. Since I'm probably on the lowest budget ever, I'm going to build my Wetlands build first and probably very slowly gather the cards for this build.

So please don't stop rating the original build(first post) and possibly the one in this post.

 

[Cirrus]

The monarchs build is pretty cheap. :) Caius (Ultra Rare) is about five bucks, Raiza is something like that as well (maybe eight?), Thestalos is a jank Common, LaDD should be 15 at MOST, and The frogs are all jank Commons.

The Battlefader should cost you a tidy sum... you don't need it if you don't want to. I find that usually Gorz works as an acceptable substitute.

 

[Apple Juice]

Seriously? Everyone's been saying Battle Fader is needed at 3 which is why I didn't plan to ever finish the build (I'm on a low budget), but Gorz is like 2.00, so hopes have risen inside of me!

Does anyone think Mother Grizzly is still good in a wetlands build?