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[Synchronize]

I've noticed that there are some posters here that post their teams and ideas hoping to get criticism that will be of beneficial use to them in the future. I've also noticed that a few of them criticize the rates that we give them, as if they knew better than the person(s) that they are receiving help from. Well here is the list of creditable people (that I can think of at the moment) that you shouldn't backtalk to just because their rates "seem" a little harsh:

- aragornbird
- husk1442
- Mullet
- Synchronize
- Pyrotechnix
- Toothache
- shanecdavis
- ice demon

As they are pretty much experts here in the knowledge of this field.

Also note that we do harshly post when consecutive posts are made by people we've attempted to correct in their misconceptions of pokemon strategy (i.e. e4_protector and Tory) so watch out for that little gem.

This message provided in an attempt to reduce flaming (regardless of how much I enjoy it) and spamming useless arguments into "Rate My Team" threads.

 

[Espy Psyche]

yo dude, you can't group me with tory/meaty. I am of a way higher caliber than he is. I am not quite on the same level as the people on the list but close. My strategies should be tested at least, if not accepted. Some of my sets, though not standard, are quite effective (referring to charmbreon and espyblock mostly here). I actually am a good (not top though) NBer.

 

[Synchronize]

yo dude, you can't group me with tory/meaty. I am of a way higher caliber than he is. I am not quite on the same level as the people on the list but close. My strategies should be tested at least, if not accepted. Some of my sets, though not standard, are quite effective (referring to charmbreon and espyblock mostly here). I actually am a good (not top though) NBer.

I wasn't grouping as the same battle level as Tory. I was merely insisting how you repeatedly make posts as if you didn't take any information we relayed to you in regard, which is a common a occurence for both of you.

But seriously, Amnesia on Snorlax is pointless for the following reasons:

1) Snorlax is a Special Wall with Rest. It abosrbs Special Attacks and Heals off the damage easily to fight another day.

2)With the set you suggested, you're having to use two stat increasing moves, which is too much of a set up while you could be attacking or just cursing.

3) Also, with the set you suggested, Snorlax has no Rest, meaning now, status pretty much screws it now more than ever, and even if you lessen the damage taken from attacks, it will eventually pile on as you are phazed out later, not to mention that you can't heal damage received from switching in on Spikes.

As for Charmbreon, I'm really the only one ok with it (except for how you take it as your own creation, which it's not), but it doesn't really serve too much purpose in today's NB OU. At least not without Taunt IMO.

"Espyblock" is just a Reflect Espy, something you use to counter Metagross. Meanwhile, there's a Mixpert out there that could recieve a CM Pass and still own Metagross anyway. Nothing wrong with Reflect, mind you, but I'm just saying, it's better off CMing it up and possibly passing.

 

[Espy Psyche]

Yeah, Mullet was the one who hated Charmbreon iirc. And, I didn't even mention Amnesia Lax. I have stopped bothering to suggest it over other's standard Curselaxes. I still, however, use it myself and will continue to instruct those from Pokemon Defender to use it.

Charmbreon and Espyblock, along with my new Gardyblock, are different. I will continue to suggest them here, even though I take criticism. My sets are original and not necessarily bad. I simply think outside the famous "box" that you and the people that you mentioned think inside.

 

[Kataphraktoi]

They think inside that box as you say perhaps because the OU metagame is so stale. many of the moves you suggest like extrasensory zapdos ^^ dont work that great and esspecially amnesia lax.... I welcome creativity, but the OU Metagame is pretty much figured out.

 

[Synchronize]

There's really nothing wrong with creativity, as long as it proves useful by the majority (as more often than not, the majority knows best). Heck, reflect on Celebi seems revolutionary IMO. It's just that if one set isn't as good as a pokemon's other usual sets, you should scratch it out instead of suggesting it in an RMT.

 

[Pyrotechnix]

Lol Reflect Celebi. giga used that on me with a Calm Mind type set :D

EDIT: And the brightness setting on my computer must suck or sumthing, because my banner looked a lot better on here at school =/

 

[aragornbird]

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Plus, the people who need the most help on RMTs are generally newbies who have no real knowledge of standard sets. It's important to teach them about standards before branching off into more novelty sets. You can't learn to run before you learn to walk.

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[Mobile Tsk]

what does this have to do with movesets?!
also, aragornbird, you did flame this guys choice of moves, so you are wrong synchronize. also , the three of you are getting annoying with your constant bragging and flaming( your just taking advantage of your "friendship" with aragornbird if thats what you call it.

ps calm mind boosts special stats, so dont put it on kadabra, alakazam, or mewtwo, considering they already have a high special attack and defense to ko 89% of all pokemon of that level in 2 turns... its just a waste of a turn

 

[Smarties-chan]

what does this have to do with movesets?!
also, aragornbird, you did flame this guys choice of moves, so you are wrong synchronize. also , the three of you are getting annoying with your constant bragging and flaming( your just taking advantage of your "friendship" with aragornbird if thats what you call it.

ps calm mind boosts special stats, so dont put it on kadabra, alakazam, or mewtwo, considering they already have a high special attack and defense to ko 89% of all pokemon of that level in 2 turns... its just a waste of a turn

And with a couple of Calm Minds they can take out almost anything with one attack.
Also, why don't you go learn the difference between criticizing and flaming? Hh, and by the way, I think your mini-modding is getting on most people's nerves (at least it's getting on mine <.<), I have seen you around the forum, telling Aragornbird, Synchronize and a couple of more expert Netbattlers how their movesets and criticism suck, how they flame others, etc..., even though you should be fully aware of them being way better than you, and that you are the one flaming others. Like what you have said in Synchronize's threads

god dangit !, im sick of you, synchronize, and all of your sick swearing ways. if you have issues dont take them out on pc

you are getting really annoying, synchronize. if you think your so good at this, rate your team yourself

And you dare to tell other people about flaming?


I also thought I'd point out that those people have the right to brag (even though I wouldn't call it bragging, they know they are good, so...), because they actually know what they are talking about.

 

[Mobile Tsk]

well, since you think they are so good, why dont you start a pact with them. you would be an ally of a moderator, so you could flame, swear(like syncronize), and spam without ever getting a warning. also, those quotes you put on there were not flaming, but synchronize's "your moves suck" is

 

[CipherDakim12]

I have to agree with peabobo a bit on this one, considering that Synchronize's way of paying respect and loyalty to these "professional raters" is not needed on this part of the forum. And I could bet you that aragornbird will probably never close this thread considering that Synchronize is his friend. I have nothing against you guys, but aren't your taking advantage of the fact that aragornbird is your friend and that he will never close this thread.

 

[Smarties-chan]

If Aragornbird would ignore other people's rule-breaking just because they are his friends, I'm pretty sure he'll get de-modded soon <.<
And if this thread breaks the rules and Aragornbird doesn't close it, then I'm sure a higher staff member will take care of it.
We all have our opinions, but I don't see how this thread breaks the rules.

Oh well, I'm not a staff member, so what I think doesn't really matter, but if you really think this thread should be closed, why not report it?

 

[aragornbird]

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First of all peabobo, I hope you are reading your own posts because you're the one who is flaming and spamming. There is something called "constructive criticism" which serves to correct and give helpful advice to other people, especially people who are less experienced in a certain area. That is what the people on that list do when rating teams.

This thread is relevant to this forum because recently, there have been a lot of people who start acting like they know everything even when they don't. This includes Tory (who was banned) and con (who was tempbanned and hasn't returned yet). If you keep this up, peabobo, you'll get banned to. When people start flaming the helpers because they think their advice is bad, that is very rude. Here are people who have played the games for years and years and have acquired a ton of knowledge on the subject. If you disagree with them, please post reasons why in a kindly manner.

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[Ice demon]

AB this thread serves no lasting purpose..Its quickly turning into a flame war.
Evidently people like peabobo and CipherDakim12 will have a problem with it, as their names were not listed.
IMO this thread should be locked.

 

[Mullet]

Yeah, Mullet was the one who hated Charmbreon iirc. And, I didn't even mention Amnesia Lax. I have stopped bothering to suggest it over other's standard Curselaxes. I still, however, use it myself and will continue to instruct those from Pokemon Defender to use it.

Charmbreon and Espyblock, along with my new Gardyblock, are different. I will continue to suggest them here, even though I take criticism. My sets are original and not necessarily bad. I simply think outside the famous "box" that you and the people that you mentioned think inside.

It's not that I hate the idea itself it's that you adlibed on a good idea and made it bad by using HP on it. You have mentioned Amnesia Lax here before.

I have no problem with orginial sets that work such as when McGraw made McGar it quickly spread but before that it caught many people offguard because it was effective and orginial.

- aragornbird
- husk1442
- Mullet
- Synchronize
- Pyrotechnix
- Toothache
- shanecdavis
- ice demon

As they are pretty much experts here in the knowledge of this field.

Okay <3 Umby as we needed this thread long ago as we kept posting it in topics. Add Paradise as he too knows what he is talking about.

I suggust to AB that he might want to lock, sticky and delete all pointless or flaming posts in this thread.

 

[Pyrotechnix]

Ok, time for Pyro-Rant. tl;drness ahead.

Be thankful I don't always say what I truly feel about some of the teams I see displayed around here, because i remember when I used to have similar, nubbish setups. However, it kinda worries me that these nubbish setups continue for multiple months with no visible signs of improvement, despite the efforts of all of us to try and help you guys. One definition of insanity is to keep doing the same thing over and over expecting some sort of different result, and, well, i'm sorry to say, but if that's true, a big lot of you are crazy.

The standard metagame in itself is admittedly stale, because creativity has become highly limited. When a metagame has remained in a similar format for as long as RSFRLGE has, with only slight and ultimately negligible changes (XD created some stirup, but things still remained essentially the same) it becomes hard to come up with creative sets that actually work. Sure, there are probably around 50-75 move each individual pokemon can learn. Out of those, however, the standard metagame only allows about 10 to work in any sort of order. As a good player once explained to me, surprises work only once. If you're going to make something groundbreaking, make it so that it will continue to work against your opponent game, after game, after game. Consistency > Surprises in OU, and, like Synch and I can tell you all too well, it'd be really nice to find a team that can remain consistent instead of having to create a new team every two days, and that is what happens with surprise teams.

And a quick lol to all the backseat modding.

 

[Mullet]

Ok, time for Pyro-Rant. tl;drness ahead.

If you're going to make something groundbreaking, make it so that it will continue to work against your opponent game, after game, after game.

It wasn't that long.

Like I said McGar is a good example of that. It can still tear up teams to some extent.

 

[mew_rocks]

Well the way I see it..It's not the best thing to be proud of that you know the OU metagame inside out. I mean in more ways than one your paying yourself out as it goes to prove you probably play the game far to much. XD. I accept it is a good game and i've played it alot myself but not to the extent that i know all that stuff that ultimatley turns out pointless in REAL LIFE.
Just thought i'd point that stuff out. BTW im not paying out pokemon its a great game im just saying that you know....dont be obsessive over it.

EDIT: As some of you have pointed out syncronize and aragornbird and whoever have the right to brag. But still syncronize come on...show a little bit of..well at least try and be a little modest. I mean your sig is a little over board dont you think? Its called winning with grace. Not saying the others do just syncronize. And no im not flaming at you just making another pointless point XD.

 

[Kylie-chan]

I don't know what AB wants to do with this thread, but I'm locking it, anyhow, due to the flame wars. o.o;

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