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Global Warming

Do you think it will be possible to reduce the Global Warming?

  • Yes

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  • No

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  • Are you crazy, man?!?

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    I wasn't talking about a repentine Ice Age. I meant other cathastrophes like floodings, migrations of all the people in the Ecuador and other countries like The Netherlands and Denmark, droughts, etc. Ovbiously, we won't freeze this century, we are talking about warming < <

    Yeah, but most of the warming is because earth recovers from an Ice Age, not only pollution...Global Warming can't be stopped, because it's mostly natural, and if we would stop it, in about ten thousand years the earth will cool down to an Ice Age, as it always was, but stopping Global Warming will cause the earth from extremely cooling down instead of "normally" during such Ice Ages.

    ~Cya, UnitRico
     

    Dr.Garchomp

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    Oh my goodness! I can't believe there is a thread like this! You have no idea how much I care about saving the world from global warming. It's one of my major goals in life. However, I believe that global warming CAN BE STOPPED. I may sound crazy saying this, but I truely belive that scientists could make a sort of "filtration" system to get rid of excess greenhouse gases, but still leaving enough to keep the world at a close to average temperature. By filtration, I mean a chemical that can actually get rid of greenhouse gas in the atmosphere. Thank you for posting this thread. This issue to me is more important than war itself.
     

    Ullion

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    Oh my goodness! I can't believe there is a thread like this! You have no idea how much I care about saving the world from global warming. It's one of my major goals in life. However, I believe that global warming CAN BE STOPPED. I may sound crazy saying this, but I truely belive that scientists could make a sort of "filtration" system to get rid of excess greenhouse gases, but still leaving enough to keep the world at a close to average temperature. By filtration, I mean a chemical that can actually get rid of greenhouse gas in the atmosphere. Thank you for posting this thread. This issue to me is more important than war itself.

    Ironically enough, we DO have a filtration system; thing is, it works backwords frm what you want it to do. Its called the Catalytic (Sp?) Converter, which is ut into all automobiles. This alters the result in a incomplete combustion chemical equation. Instead of the Incomplete Combustion producing CO (Carbon monoxide) the Catalytic Converter is used to make it CO2 instead. CO2 may cause the Greenhouse ffect, but at least thats less dangerous then filling our cities with dangerous CO. x:
     
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    Oh my goodness! I can't believe there is a thread like this! You have no idea how much I care about saving the world from global warming. It's one of my major goals in life. However, I believe that global warming CAN BE STOPPED. I may sound crazy saying this, but I truely belive that scientists could make a sort of "filtration" system to get rid of excess greenhouse gases, but still leaving enough to keep the world at a close to average temperature. By filtration, I mean a chemical that can actually get rid of greenhouse gas in the atmosphere. Thank you for posting this thread. This issue to me is more important than war itself.

    Ehrm...aren't you just a bit overreacting? I mean, war causes more victims then GW, I guess

    Better don't...just slow it down, don't stop it. Then in 10,000-40,000 years, when the new Ice Age comes, it'll be damn cold :)

    I still like your idea though, but it's full of fantasy. But hey, scientist can do huge things these days, so there's still hope for you :)

    ~Cya, UnitRico
     

    Gabri

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    I have hope too that GW can be reduced or even stopped (but very very difficult to stop), but some countries aren't helping (I'm not talking about a especific country, I'm talking about some countries). But I still have hope.
     

    Kotowari

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    There is no doubt something is going on, no doubt at all. Can you believe we didn't have a summer (a.k.a. wet weather, lots of clouds and barely a sunny day ) this year? And last year it was a heatwave during August and July. =.=
    The weather is completely out of balance. =O

    It's true that Global Warming (and possibly Cooling too) are a natural process, but usually it goes very slow and takes many, many years. But the last 150 years or something, the temperature has risen a lot. 150 years is a very short period in the Earth's life. =O
    Glaciers are melting and in a few years they will disappear. In Switzerland e.g., the mountains are filled with snow during winter, this year almost no snow to be seen.

    You can't deny something is happening, and it's not for the best.
    And if you say you don't care, 'cause you won't be here when it happens, think about those who live in the future. =/
     

    Erimgard

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    I haven't read the whole thread, so this may have already been said.
    BUT, I HIGHLY suggest you all go out and read the book "State of Fear"
    it's a book by Michael Crichton. and while, it is one of my least favorites of his in terms of keeping my interest, it presents facts about global warming.
    such as: while yes, there is an incline in temperature currently, it is LESS than the warming trends of the past. in fact, the highest the average temperature was in the last century was in (I believe) 1974. that's right, it was hotter 30 years ago. and in the 40's (despite the fact that there were factories putting out carbon) the average temperature went DOWN for several years.
    not to mention, theoretically, if global warming is caused by gasses being trapped in the atmosphere thus raising tempearture....theoretically the atmosphere should be heating up too, is that not correct? well, to test that, satelites were sent up.
    truth is, yes, it is heating up. but not at a rate that is considered dangerous by any means. AND it's a rate considerably less than that of earth's land
    Translation: while the atmosphere is slightly heating up, it's not enough to justify the warming trend down on earth. that is caused by something else.
    could just be a trend. there are lots of seemingly unexplainable warming and cooling trends.
    and all the talk about glaciers melting and such. yes, it sometimes happens. but in some areas, the exact opposite is happening. example: Iceland which is 12% covered in ice, is actually GAINING ice currently.
    it's all hype in my mind.
     

    Dr.Garchomp

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    Ehrm...aren't you just a bit overreacting? I mean, war causes more victims then GW, I guess

    Better don't...just slow it down, don't stop it. Then in 10,000-40,000 years, when the new Ice Age comes, it'll be damn cold :)

    I still like your idea though, but it's full of fantasy. But hey, scientist can do huge things these days, so there's still hope for you :)

    ~Cya, UnitRico

    hahaha I knew I'd get some criticism! XD But it wouldn't suprise me if some great technology came out in the next decade.
    lol I am fantasizing a little aren't I?
     
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    c02 isnt the only contributer to global warming but its pretty much what makes it so bad.

    Lets say we dont stop. Eventually the ice caps will melt. Shutting down the ocean currents. Warming the ocean and cooling the earth. The cooling is good the warming is bad. If the water warms up the frozen methan in the ocean WILL melt back into a gas. And methan is even worse the co2.

    So if global warming from c02 does its toll and doesnt kill us the methan release will.

    You wanna live somewhere where it gets to 300 degress in the winter? Of course you dont care because youd be dead quicker then you could relize how hot it really is >_>
     

    Melody

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    Indeed. Our distant future is looking perilous. But I'm sure that the world will come up with a way to power all of our needs without polluting the environment. You gotta give us some credit. If we're smart enough to figure out that something is gonna cause a problem in the future you can bet on us to be able to find a solution with less consequence. In the meantime there's no point in crying about the average temperature rising a few degrees. Or the effects that has on us. We cant stop it. We didnt actually cause global warming anyway.
    Sure, the fuels we burn release gases that aid the warming. But do we really have another choice? Life is one big race for survival and when a new gadget is invented it's intended to (usually) help (some)people live better lives. :/
    Can you really blame our ancestors for not knowing what we do now? No. Society is like a person in itself. It had to grow up a bit (The dark ages, yadda yadda,) to actually achieve something. Getting trillions of people to cooperate for the better good is no easy task. Especially when there is so much greed in the world along with the many good intentions. And it's easy for someone who started out with good intentions to be warped by power and money to start the seed of greed.
    I'm not saying that global warming is an insignificant issue. To be perfectly honest I'm as concerned as all of you people in this thread are about it. I just think that getting too exited about it is pointless because that makes it look like we dont quite understand things.
    Unfortunately it's gonna be hard to root out the greedy people in power just because they have power. But while the world is ruled by those who are ignorant about or dont care about global warming it'll never be addressed. I support some mesures to cut back on global warming but we cant just quit our "addiction" to fossil fuels cold turkey.
    Doing so would kill too many people's prosperity. It would bring poverty(Jobs lost) and make it harder to communicate(Leading to misunderstandings that cause strife) and would also make it difficult to move what we need to the areas that really need it(famine, lack of medicine and other neccessities).
    So, IMO, There is nothing we can do but maybe cut back a tiny bit on our consumption and hope that we discover a solution in the near future.
     

    gaz-is-the-best

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    Global Warming is a load of rubbish. The Earth has been warming up ever since the last Ice Age. It's natural.
     
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    Global Warming is a load of rubbish. The Earth has been warming up ever since the last Ice Age. It's natural.

    Global warming is natural.
    Global warming at the current rate isn't, nor is it a 'load of rubbish'.

    Seriously, I have no idea how people can just claim that Global Warming is a falsehood despite all the masses of evidence supporting it (and nothing against it).
    Either that they're really stubborn and don't want to accept that they're ruining other people's future, or they're just plain dumb. ¬_¬
     

    Erimgard

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    I don't think it's fair to say that there is nothing against it. I mentioned a few small facts.
    I'm not saying we shouldn't take good care of this earth, I'm just saying that the global warming going on is not nearly as severe as people make it out, nor is it all the fault of carbon.
    evidence for and against it exists, and in both cases, is generally biased. everyone pushes their own agendas, presents statistics that are favorable to their cause while refraining from mentioning facts that they know conflict with their views. people believe what they want to believe.
     

    Memory

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    Okay, this is what I think, no flaming me please ^^;

    You really can't deny that Global Warming isn't happening, is a load of rubbish (cough) and isn't serious. It's very serious. Same with Rainforests, so much being lost EVERY SECOND. When our children's children, and their children go to school, they'll only be reading about massive forests and Tigers and all those that call forests their home. Just like we are simply reading about Dinosaurs, and other ancient, extinct animals. Can you imagine?

    We need to take care of the World which was given to us, and these gas-powered cars aren't helping. At all. Zip. They're making it worse. Global warming isn't natural, in my opinion-- we humans have caused it. And we need to turn everything around really fast. Everyone should care. Because all of us share this world, therefore all of us should do our own part in caring for it. Global Warming is real-- there's no doubt in my mind. But no one cares, they care about their money and their company and about themselves and their relatives and close friends. That's all. Our actions, today, what we're doing right now, doesn't affect us. But it WILL affect our children and our children's children and so on and so forth. That's not fair to them. And once it's too late, there's no going back. Funny, I didn't see anyone mentioning the O-Zone layer and the big hole in it that's growing larger. That's our problem. We're doing that to our earth, the one that was given to us, the one where we were brought in to. We need to stop being so selfish! Not just the U.S., everyone needs to help! Like China, I suppose. This is a big deal. And I, for one, hope to grow up to be a leader, teaching people about animal rights and Global Warming, if it's not too late by that time.
     

    Erimgard

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    no offense, but there is not enough proof for or against global warming to show either way.
    I've presented several facts, and know others as well. but the fact is, there isn't enough evidence either way. I for one, do believe we should take care of the planet as responsible human beings, but I don't see global warming as an imminent threat
     
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    :O
    I just realized something! If we took 1 million cars off the road, we'd have....
    Spoiler:
     

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    When our children's children, and their children go to school, they'll only be reading about massive forests and Tigers and all those that call forests their home. Just like we are simply reading about Dinosaurs, and other ancient, extinct animals. Can you imagine?

    I've never seen a tiger apart from in the zoo, am I bothered? Not really. Will my children(etc) be bothered probably not. Have I ever seen a dodo? No. Bothered? No. I've never been to a rainforest, again I'd probably like to at some point, but it wouldn't really be a blow if it didn't, I mean if you suddenly discovered that there was some sort of foreign habitat that was all gone before you were born, would you suddenly feel a desperate yearning to go and see it? I doubt it.

    All this is not to do with global warming either, its to do with human exploitation of land and money, and we can't stop poachers and loggers from poaching and logging by turning off a light bulb.

    Animals are becoming extinct all the time always have done always will do. In fact, correction, living things are becoming extinct all the time so that includes bacteria, ameoba and unicellular fungi. I guess you're not so sympathetic towards them? What is really important is biodiversity. There is no evidence to suggest that biodiversity is decreasing but even if it is, that, like climate and everything, ebbs and flows; there have been numerous mass extinctions in the past sometimes 98% of all life dying out in a century but life has always pulled through and creates new biodiversity.

    I'm not saying we should'nt worry about poachers, we should and the number of species on the endangered list is increasing, but the number of animal extinctions hasn't really increased much(its hard to say for plants and others) and those few extra extinctions have been caused partly by the natural ebb and flow of biodiversity and partly by other human factors but not global warming.

    One of the animals that gets the most attention is the Polar Bear. I shan't rant on about how some animals like the poly, the tiger, the panda etc get so much more attention because their cute, I shall simply point out that since 1970, Polar Bear populations have increased from 5,000 to 25,000, thats a fivefold increase.

    Some people seem to think that there is something sacred or something about all animals living at this particular time...um, why?

    I shall also point out that temperatures in the past are extremely hard to find exactly and normally different studies differ by several degrees. In the so-called medieval warm period, various studies put the temperature above or below current temperatures. A better way to consider it is this: grapes were grown in this time in the north of England and Scotland which, for you non-brits, is pretty much unheard of today and farmers struggle even in the south. This farming was so wide-spread there are even roads and whole communities built on the proceeds of growing this commodity from medieval times.

    Many people emphasise the rate of increase of temperature today. In the past temperatures have risen far faster and been far higher than today. One rise in particular experience a rise of more than 5 degrees in half a century in some places, increasing from a temperature already hotter than today.

    Obviously further back you go, the harder it is to determine the temperature, but most studies document changes in temperature at more or less the same time. If you compare these to the more accurate carbon records, you notice that in nearly every case, the temperature rises before the CO2 increases. How can that be? Well when temperatures change, the vast oceans take hundreds if not thousands of years to catch up, because of this, sea temperature lags by about 800 behind air temperature. Oceans contain a lot of CO2 and when the seas warm, they release more CO2 and when they cool they absorb it so when temperatures increase, later CO2 increases. What they didn't tell you in an inconvenient truth is that they moved the graphs around to make them fit.

    Since just before the beginning of the industrial revolution, temperatures have been increasing steadily at about the same rate. Strangly though, in the beginning, barely anyone owned a car and there were only a few factories in a few very develped countries yet temperatures were increasing, uniformly, globally at about the same rate as today apart from during the post-war economic boom when hundreds of factories opened and people first had cars widespread and were pumping out tons and tons of CO2, far more than today, because of the dirty coal and oil and the inefficient methods they used. Today, we use far more economically (and ecologically) friendly methods. But during that time, temperatures... dropped. Yes they fell and people were worried then about global cooling and a possible mini-ice age!

    Models are notoriously inaccurate and predictions vary wildly and change at the slightest change in figures, the figures being inaccurate anyway. Most models do not take into account solar activity which has been shown to correlate rather better to temperature records. Models are tweaked to give the appearence of drastic warming. Most models have so far been quite wrong in both temperature and CO2 quantities. All predict a higher rate of warming in the troposphere if warming is due to greenhouse gases, all were wrong. Temperatures, as shown by weather balloons, are rising slower if at all in some places.

    So why do people do this? Well it starts in government. Governments think they can get more votes by showing they care for the environment and put money into "helping" global warming. They pay scientists to find what thin evidence there is for human-induced warming who do that and scare the public with their "shocking" results. Scientist gets another grant for more "research" from which they conclude... they need more money! See the pattern emerging...? Scientists and government officials work like everyone else: driven by money, influence and power. Supporting global warming due to human CO2 gives them that. The more governments (or the scientists they pay) persuade the public that global warming is all their fault, that it will kill hundreds of people and that polar bears will go extinct, the more the public wants a government thats prepared to put money not into healthcare or education, but into funding the slowing of global warming. For this reason, they can't let contary evidence get out. So they don't grant money to scientists who speak out. Anyone who doesn't believe in global warming by CO2 is virtually branded a heretic preventing open debate and the releasing of all the information to the public who are fed the nonsence that all scientists are at a consensus and there is no evidence against it. They're not, and there is. Other companies are exploiting the situation with the rediculous carbon offsets schemes. Thousands of jobs rely on global warming and its become a world-wide phenomenon. Its like a religion. Just don't get me started on religion...

    Don't think I say all this so I'm not guilty, or because I'm lazy or am in denial. I do take steps to reduce my dependence on oil and gas, not because of global warming but because we are going to run out one day and we need time to develop something to replace it.

    Also what we really need to do is concentrate on the more pressing issues in the world today: povery, gangs and gun crime, and indeed deforestation, poaching and hunting.
     
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    Erimgard

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    just wondering, have you read State of Fear?
    a lot of what you said is also mentioned in that book. Michael Crichton is my hero :)
     

    Spinor

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    I Don't know if this is a severe case of global warming but, it wont stop raining in south texas. it rained for like 10 days straight, luckily with sunny periods. were i live has excelent drainage but i dont know if it can be held much longer. it may be that melting glaciers are going to the Gulf of mexico, and since it's pretty hot in the middle, Ice>Water> clouds, unfortunatly, it HAS to go somewere so the winds just chuk it up into south texas, but that may be 1/9 of the rain problem because i don't think just a few pieces of glaciers in the gulf can cause one damn of a side road flooding.
     
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