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6th Gen Wallace? Or Steven?

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    Since they're R/S, they'll probably have Steven as the champion. But they most likely will give it a twist, and make Juan a Gym Leader. Who knows what could happen to Wallace. Elite 4, maybe? Or just a regular trainer. I really don't think that they will make Wallace the Champion. This is not an Emerald remake; it is Ruby and Sapphire remakes. (saying this makes me happy :D)

    Oh yeah. Wallace likes Contests, doesn't he? He could become a contestant in the Master Rank or a Judge. Most likely a judge like he was in the anime. That would be cool :3
     

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    Or maybe have Steven be the champion of one and Wallace of the other. If they do the latter then Steven should be in OmegaRuby as his type, Steel comes from the Ground. Plus his type is the same as Dialga who is the mascot of the first of it's pair. AlphaSapphire can have Wallace... Wonder if they did that if purchases of OmegaRuby will go up...or down...I'm guessing up.
    Version exclusive Champions? Honestly, that something I can see GameFreak doing. If they were to do that though, hopefully they will make so you can face the other Champion in some way or form.
     

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    Version exclusive Champions? Honestly, that something I can see GameFreak doing. If they were to do that though, hopefully they will make so you can face the other Champion in some way or form.

    I can see them putting the other in Meteor Falls like Steven was during Emerald. Hopefully Milotic will gain a Mega so that Wallace if able to, can use Mega Evolution. Hopefully Metagross will gain one too for Steven. That or Steven uses MegaAggron while Wallace uses MegaGyarados
     
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    It'll probably be Wallace again, I don't see Steven returning as champ. Unless there is a new champion entirely, I am sure we will see Wallace as champ again unfortunately.
     
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    They actually did the same thing in Johto and in Sequel Unova except they used Dragon instead of Water.

    Yes, but the difference is that although Lance is a Dragon Champion, only 3 of his Pokémon are Dragon-types. The same goes for Iris.

    Steven is a Steel Champion, but only 3 of his Pokémon are Steel.

    Wallace, on the other hand, has a full team of 6 Water Pokémon. No diversity, and definitely no challenge after you know how to deal with Water Pokémon, thanks to Juan, the pure Water-type Gym Leader, giving you all you need to know of what to expect from Wallace.


    It's for that reason alone that I'd prefer Steven over Wallace as Champion. And honestly, that's pretty much from where all the dislike stems: there is little to no challenge in fighting Wallace when you can just attack him with the same strategy used to defeat Juan.

    As much as I love version differences, having the final boss be different depending on the game is a bit weird to me.
    And before anyone mentions Drayden and Iris as different Gym Leaders in BW, the only difference between their teams was the genders of their Pokémon and the ability of their Druddigon. Steven and Wallace aren't even close to having a similar team.
    And Wallace being Champion is a feature of Emerald, and there's no reason for one game to have the Emerald champion and the other to have the RS champion; these are Omega Ruby and Alpha Sapphire, not Omega Ruby and Alpha Emerald. In HGSS, the Crystal elements were included in both games, so for ORAS I can safely say any Emerald additions would also be in both games.

    I've mentioned it in the Juan thread, so I'll just post a digest version here:
    I'd like for Wallace to be the 8th Gym Leader and for Steven to be the Champion of "story mode," and for Wallace to be the post-game Champion. Juan would take Wallace's place for Gym Leader rematches, and Steven can be found at Meteor Falls once the post-game begins.
     

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    Steven. Wallace was by no means bad, he just felt... out of place. Besides, these are REMAKES, so it's as if everything (as far as STORY goes, NOT gameplay mechanics.) past R/S hasn't happened, so it would make absolutely zero sense for Steven to not be champion. Think about it, they're remakes, why would they follow the story of a different game than the ones they're remaking? (albeit, a very similar story, but still a different one.)
     

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    I need a new champion, and Steven in Mt. Falls (rematch only).
     
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    Between the two I'd like to see Steven as I only played Emerald and didn't get to experience him as Champion :) Even when I was going through the game he seemed to have a sort of Champion-y presence lol and plus, as these will mainly be R/S based then it's likely it'll be Steven anyways unless they have some big twist planned :)
     
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    I kind of liked having Steven as the ultimate trainer,like Red in Gold and Silver,and Wallace being the Champion. In addition to this,both HeartGold and SoulSilver followed Crystal,with Eusine's story line and teams closer to Crystal,so I assume that Alpha Sapphire and Omega Ruby will follow Emerald,however this is only speculation.
     

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    Pardon me but I couldn't help but facepalm... Nintendo already confirmed them as "Full Remakes", check out the thread that says "do you prefer remakes or Sequels? (edit: Confirmed Sequels)" or something like that. Also there's a thread called Confirmed Remakes.

    I love speculating because it's so much fun to think of new innovative ideas and hear what other people have to say. If we knew for sure that this was going to be a 100% Full Remake, then what's the point of the majority of threads in this forum? Everything here seems to be fun speculation.~
     

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    I love speculating because it's so much fun to think of new innovative ideas and hear what other people have to say. If we knew for sure that this was going to be a 100% Full Remake, then what's the point of the majority of threads in this forum? Everything here seems to be fun speculation.~

    As do I, but there's just some ideas which Remakes restrict. That's why some people are opposed to them. I think a time skip is restricted, at least for the main-story. The post game could take place a few years later for all we know...now that would be cool.
     
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    Hm... out of the two, I'd say I like Steven more. His design looks much more cool, and his team is pretty tough to go up against. Wallace's is pretty difficult, too, especially his Milotic, but if Steven's Metagross ever went up against it, I'm sure it'd have no trouble winning. :] I'd like both of them to make appearance in ORAS, though.
     
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    I personally would prefer Steven to be the Champion although I do think that there is a chance of it being Wallace.
     

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    I was going to mention this earlier. If they were to make Wallace the champion post game it'll feel like he stole the champion ship from the character...he didn't even defeat us... Unless they do a story defeat in which we do lose 0_o.
     

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    I was going to mention this earlier. If they were to make Wallace the champion post game it'll feel like he stole the champion ship from the character...he didn't even defeat us... Unless they do a story defeat in which we do lose 0_o.
    hm? Steven first and Wallace in post-game? That's a very odd idea haha
     
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    I immensely hope it's Steven. Wallace never gave me a champion vibe plus it made little sense to have the champion use the same Pokemon type as the eighth gym leader. Steel's a lot more fitting given how rarely it's seen and how many resistances it has. He was great in a champion role. Thinking of it now though, he'd be an even greater final boss for the game as a whole; that's probably all that's making me hesitant right now. Hmm where do I want him..
     

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    Ain't it? It should be us, the player not Wallace. Of course it may be fun to find ourselves back at the start and having to challenge Wallace to regain our seat...
    oh lord... losing all your progress after being bested by a new challenger. @__@; I think it'd be a neat dynamic to have a post-game story in which you are the Champion and are challenged by people like Wallace, maybe even are defeated, as you say, and then that's what starts Elite Four rematches. :P That's something that GF wouldn't add though because... I'm not even sure why, it's just that league related things usually stay the same/hardly ever change. :(
     
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    I'd prefer to have Steven in that place once again. He always seemed like the better Champ, and his little appearances around the region gave him more of a presence, where as Wallace was just sort of there.
     

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    Maybe Wallace will be made into the champ to make up for his absence in HGSS where all champions appeared. You know though...he was the champion at the PWT...so he'll have to be the champion at one point...
     
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