6th Gen Pokemon Bank and Transfer.

I was very excited for Pokemon transfer. It seemed like a much more efficient and simplistic way of moving mons through generations than methods used in the past. Now I'm left disappointed that I'll have to pay for such a service.

Over the course of my life I, and my parents on my behalf, have payed hundreds of dollars on the Pokemon franchise. Now I feel like I'm being nickel-and-dimed.

First month is free so you can transfer them all over in that amount of time...
Darn I feel like a broken record...

Magmaruby and Aquasapphire said:

First month is free so you can transfer them all over in that amount of time...
Darn I feel like a broken record...

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I like to pretend I'm a congressman lobbying for game freak, just think west wing meets pokemon lol

Not for everyone. The first month of the service being open is free... But what about those who buy the game after the free period is over?

Ask yourself this - They are charging for the ability to trade between gens now. When it comes to money, people always want a little bit more... So... Do you honestly think they will stop there? What else will they decide to start charging for next?

Magmaruby and Aquasapphire said:

First month is free so you can transfer them all over in that amount of time...
Darn I feel like a broken record...

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I realize this but it's not sufficient.

It's also not the amount of money that they want for this service. It's the fact that they want money that irritates me. Pokemon is the second most profitable gaming franchise behind only Mario. They can offer a free cloud service and still turn a considerable profit.

They've reduced in game storage and are offering a free 1 month subscription for a cheap service. It comes off as sleazy.

Good point...but it starts in late December so one has three months to get the games.
@ Mr. Griszell lol. I feel like a moderate congressman here...caught between the two sides...sigh...another base breaker just had to come along didn't it?!

BraveNewWorld said:

I realize this but it's not sufficient.

It's also not the amount of money that they want for this service. It's the fact that they want money that irritates me. Pokemon is the second most profitable gaming franchise behind only Mario. They can offer a free cloud service and still turn a considerable profit.

They've reduced in game storage and are offering a free 1 month subscription for a cheap service. It comes off as sleazy.

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It's not sleazy it's bussiness you socialist
Their price is already dirt cheap .
Lol I don't mean your an actual socialist it just fitted in with my speech lol

Magmaruby and Aquasapphire said:

Good point...but it starts in late December so one has three months to get the games.

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Starts 12-25, ends 1-31. So 5 weeks.

What I'm trying to get across is, would I like the service for free sure why not but I'm a realist I know as time goes on we will have to pay for other perks. Will I stop playing pokemon because of this ? Of course not. We just have to get used to it

And with how common that attitude is - Their is nothing we can do, just accept it - it's no wonder why game companies are now putting profits ahead of customers.

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And with how common that attitude is - Their is nothing we can do, just accept it - it's no wonder why game companies are now putting profits ahead of customers.

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But at least with Game Freak its one of the least expensive game franchise and we do get the right amount of bang for our buck

XanderO said:

Except this was done because they put the customer first. There was no way to transfer before this came into existance. Would you have them show an attitude saying there wouldn't be any transfer method this generation so all the fans, you just wasted years of your life and money because you can't bring any of those pokemon to the new games?

The made this because they wanted to support the fans. This is Customer over money. Not Money over customer.

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I agree with you 100%
I just couldn't word it that way at the time of my response

Again, look up. I've pointed out a alternative to the cloud system, one that requires the customer to pay no additional money.

I'll point it out again. SD Card. The 3DS comes with a SD slot, most of them even come with a free SD card!

That is your expanded storage and trading method for a portable console.

My issue is that they are practically charging you for the ability to trade pokemon.

Edit - And even then, the data that they are storing? Pretty much a slice of save data. And the size of the save data? Proably won't be more then 2 MB, 4 tops. So really? $5 a year to store 4 MB of data. Small cost, small data... But overpriced when you realize that there are services that provide you a full gig of cloud storage for free.

Any way you cut it, it's a rip off.

Magmaruby and Aquasapphire said:

Having a large SD card like that is very beneficial, especially for someone who plans to download XY from the e-shop as it's a large game.

I don't think the program will be too large so Damien you can buy a 2GB one. I saw a few for 4 dollars when I bought mine.

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Oh I've got one, I have tons of them around the house, even some really old 32MB ones XD
The one in my system is a microsd 8GB I think.
I'm talking about the other people....
And speaking of which I still barely got my 3DS and its a refurbished one...It just counts as both a birthday and a christmas present.

MrGriszell said:

Then chances are they can't afford a 3ds pokemon XY or a Internet service provider

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A lot of them will be Kids, who got the System and games for birthdays and such. My Pokemon Y preorder was from my birthday money from my grandma.
And if they have strict budget parents, chances are, they don't have an SD card.

DamienHelvian said:

Oh I've got one, I have tons of them around the house, even some really old 32MB ones XD
The one in my system is a microsd 8GB I think.
I'm talking about the other people....
And speaking of which I still barely got my 3DS and its a refurbished one...It just counts as both a birthday and a christmas present.



A lot of them will be Kids, who got the System and games for birthdays and such. My Pokemon Y preorder was from my birthday money from my grandma.
And if they have strict budget parents, chances are, they don't have an SD card.

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Yea I guess , but I guess I don't see the big deal regarding kids because pokemon red was the only pokemon game that was bought for me I bought the rest with money I earned , keep in mind I was born in 1990

I don't like that I'll need a gen V game to use this, because I sold my White version when I discovered how un-fun it was. So basically this means I can't bring my old powerhouses into Y unless I go buy B/W again. Ugh...

If SD cards were still limited to 16/32mb/real low amount then it could take more cards.

Here's the thing - Even with the size increases to their data that comes with a new gen, it's still not going to exceed a kb per pokemon. Right now, pkm files? 136 bytes. Thats all the data for one pokemon. It doesn't have to store it's graphics, it's sounds, or the graphics for it's attacks because that is included in the game. All that the file stores is the identifying information for the pokemon - Id numbers, levels, moves, those kind of things. Even if it jumps to a full kb, this still wouldn't take up a whole lot of space. Well, any space really due to the size of memory cards now. We've cards that go up to 128 GB now. But still, a common 4 GB card would be more then sufficient. Hell, even a 2 would be.

And a regular SD card isn't coded for anything. It's designed to hold data, any kind of data. As long as the data is, at it's core, made of zeros and ones the SD card could care less what is put on it.

The same applies to all memory cards. The only major difference between cards is their storage space and shape. While some preform better then others - faster read/write rates - they are all of similar performance. Micro, Mini, and SD are all the same type of cards really - Just diffrient sizes for diffrient electronics.

And memory corruption? The same can happen to the data that gets stored in their services. The storage medium that they will use will be susceptible to corruption the same as any memory card. Hard drives, solid states, hybrids, flash... Doesn't matter. All are susceptible to corruption.

Conversion will take space but mostly for the conversion app. And even then, the program isn't going to be that big.

Here's another thought..

What will the bank be tied to? A user id? A specific cartridge? Or the console?

As for the data increases, again, even with all the extra data added it still isn't going to be that large. You see it as the data is going to have a drastic increase to a few mb per pokemon. It isn't. And again, all that is stored with the pokemon is it's identifying data. Not anything else.

This is what would be saved to the card, in a non-specific format. The pokemon's identifying data. When transfering it over, the transfer program would read the data and convert it to whatever new format the 3ds would use. You seem to think that a supercomputer is required for a simple conversion and update - It isn't. The hardware in the 3ds is more then sufficient for such a task.

Again, identifying data. The save doesn't have its graphics, it's sounds, it's move graphics... But simple pointers that specify what graphic to show when viewed, what sound to play when selected, what graphics to use when it attacks. None of these are stored in the pokemons data. Just pointers to where the data would be located on the cartridge.

I hope that PokéBank will have gift Pokémon after reaching a certain target of Pokémon...it'll motivate People to catch more.

I was actually thinking about an idea of having some sort of PokeBank, where you can safely put your money there, but I agree that saving Pokemon is a much better idea.