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Counter that Pokémon

Chocolate™

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    Counter that Pokémon


    Rhyperior @ Leftovers
    Nature: Adamant.
    Ability: Sturdy.
    EVs: 252 HP/252 Atck/ 4 Def
    Moves:

    Earthquake.
    Megahorn
    Stone Edge
    Hammer Arm

    252+ Atk Rhyperior Earthquake vs. 252 HP / 0 Def Luxray: 462-546 (126.9 - 150%) -- guaranteed OHKO

    Makes sense doesn't it?
     

    srinator

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    Azumarill @ Choice Band
    Ability: Huge Power
    EVs: 252 Atk / 252 HP / 4 SDef
    Adamant Nature
    - Aqua Jet
    - Waterfall
    - Play Rough
    - Superpower


    Counter that Pokémon


    252+ Atk Choice Band Huge Power Azumarill Waterfall vs. 252 HP / 0 Def Solid Rock Rhyperior: 570-675 (131.3 - 155.5%) -- guaranteed OHKO
     

    Cryosic

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    Trevenant @Sitrus Berry
    Trait: Harvest
    EVs: 252 HP / 4 Atk / 252 Def
    Impish Nature
    -WoW
    -Leech Seed
    -Substitute
    -Horn Leech

    Burn, burn, burn!

    252+ Atk Choice Band Huge Power Azumarill Play Rough vs. 252 HP / 252+ Def Trevenant: 229-271 (61.2 - 72.4%) -- guaranteed 2HKO

    252+ Atk Choice Band Huge Power burned Azumarill Play Rough vs. 252 HP / 252+ Def Trevenant: 114-135 (30.4 - 36%) -- 52.9% chance to 3HKO


    4 Atk Trevenant Horn Leech vs. 252 HP / 0 Def Azumarill: 212-252 (52.4 - 62.3%) -- guaranteed 2HKO after burn damage
     
    Megan

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    Bisharp @Live Orb
    Ability: Defiant
    EVs: 32 HP/ 252 Atk / 224 Spe
    Nature: Adamant
    - Sucker Punch
    - Knock Off
    - Iron Head
    - Sword Dance

    252+ Atk Life Orb Bisharp Knock Off (97.5 BP) vs. 252 HP / 252+ Def Trevenant: 377-447 (100.8 - 119.5%) -- guaranteed OHKO
     

    srinator

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    Counter that Pokémon



    Gliscor @ Toxic Orb
    Ability: Poison Heal
    EVs: 184 Def / 252 HP / 72 Spd
    Impish Nature
    - Earthquake
    - Protect
    - Ice Fang
    - Toxic

    252+ Atk Life Orb Bisharp Sucker Punch vs. 252 HP / 184+ Def Gliscor: 118-140 (33.3 - 39.5%) -- 98.8% chance to 4HKO after Poison Heal
    252+ Atk Life Orb Bisharp Iron Head vs. 252 HP / 184+ Def Gliscor: 118-140 (33.3 - 39.5%) -- 98.8% chance to 4HKO after Poison Heal
    252+ Atk Life Orb Bisharp Knock Off (97.5 BP) vs. 252 HP / 184+ Def Gliscor: 142-169 (40.1 - 47.7%) -- 96.4% chance to 3HKO after Poison Heal

    252 Atk Gliscor Earthquake vs. 32 HP / 0 Def Bisharp: 264-312 (94.6 - 111.8%) -- 62.5% chance to OHKO
    0 Atk Gliscor Earthquake vs. 32 HP / 0 Def Bisharp: 206-246 (73.8 - 88.1%) -- guaranteed 2HKO
     
    Dark Azelf

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    Chocolate™ said:
    Counter that Pokémon


    Rhyperior @ Leftovers
    Nature: Adamant.
    Ability: Sturdy.
    EVs: 252 HP/252 Atck/ 4 Def
    Moves:

    Earthquake.
    Megahorn
    Stone Edge
    Hammer Arm

    252+ Atk Rhyperior Earthquake vs. 252 HP / 0 Def Luxray: 462-546 (126.9 - 150%) -- guaranteed OHKO

    Makes sense doesn't it?
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    No

    CB Luxray SuperPower Vs 252/0 Rhyperior: 75.1% - 88.5%

    Even with Solid Rock you take 93% minimum over two turns (one on the switch in) which is shaky as hell being if it rolls higher damage Rhyperior is KO'd and as thus Rhyperior is not a counter unless you invest significantly in its defenses because it cant switch in and doesnt outspeed so loses.

    Definition of a counter: A Pokemon that can switch into the opposing Pokemon with little or no risk, and proceed to threaten a KO. Basically, a counter is the perfect switch-in to a Pokemon.
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    Anyway @ above post,

    Charizard(Mega-Y) @ Charizardite-Y
    Modest Nature
    Trait: Blaze ---> Drought
    252 S.Atk / 252 Speed/ 6 Def
    - Fire Blast
    - Solar Beam
    - Focus Blast
    - Dragon Pulse

    Immune to EQ, neutral to Ice Fang and massacres you back with Fire move.
     
    Nah

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    Counter that Pokémon
    -Mega Aerodactyl w/Aerodactylite
    Nature: Jolly
    Ability: Tough Claws
    EVs: 252 Attack, 252 Speed, 4 HP
    Moves: Rock Slide, Earthquake, Aerial Ace, Thunder Fang

    252+ SpA Mega Charizard Y Fire Blast vs. 4 HP / 0 SpD Mega Aerodactyl in Sun: 180-212 (59.6 - 70.1%) -- guaranteed 2HKO
    252+ SpA Mega Charizard Y Focus Blast vs. 4 HP / 0 SpD Mega Aerodactyl: 175-206 (57.9 - 68.2%) -- guaranteed 2HKO

    And we all know Charizard hates rocks.
     
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    Hiatus

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    Counter that Pokémon


    Blastoise @ Blastoisinite
    Trait: Mega Launcher
    EVs: 252 SpA / 252 HP / 4 SpD
    Nature: Modest
    - Rapid Spin
    - Water Pulse
    - Dark Pulse
    - Dragon Pulse

    Knocks Aerodactyl down with just one Water Pulse.

    252+ SpA Mega Launcher Mega Blastoise Water Pulse vs. 4 HP / 0 SpD Mega Aerodactyl: 348-410 (115.2 - 135.7%) -- guaranteed OHKO

    252 Atk Mega Aerodactyl Rock Slide vs. 252 HP / 0 Def Mega Blastoise: 109-129 (30.1 - 35.6%) -- 27.9% chance to 3HKO
    252 Atk Tough Claws Mega Aerodactyl Thunder Fang vs. 252 HP / 0 Def Mega Blastoise: 166-196 (45.8 - 54.1%) -- 53.1% chance to 2HKO
     

    srinator

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    lol that set so easily countered by ferro \o/ on a friendly note aura sphere>dragon pulse

    Ferrothorn @ Leftovers
    Ability: Iron Barbs
    EVs: 252 Atk / 252 HP / 4 SDef
    Brave Nature
    IVs: 0 Spd
    - Power Whip
    - Curse
    - Stealth Rock
    - Gyro Ball


    0- Atk Mega Blastoise Rapid Spin vs. 252 HP / 0+ Def Ferrothorn: 5-6 (1.4 - 1.7%) -- possibly the worst move ever
    lol
    252+ SpA Mega Launcher Mega Blastoise Dragon Pulse vs. 252 HP / 4 SpD Ferrothorn: 68-81 (19.3 - 23%) -- possible 6HKO after Leftovers recovery
    252+ SpA Mega Launcher Mega Blastoise Dark Pulse vs. 252 HP / 4 SpD Ferrothorn: 130-153 (36.9 - 43.4%) -- 99.3% chance to 3HKO after Leftovers recovery
    252+ SpA Mega Launcher Mega Blastoise Water Pulse vs. 252 HP / 4 SpD Ferrothorn: 72-86 (20.4 - 24.4%) -- possible 6HKO after Leftovers recovery


    on the bright side ;)
    252 Atk Ferrothorn Power Whip vs. 252 HP / 0 Def Mega Blastoise: 270-318 (74.5 - 87.8%) -- 6.3% chance to OHKO after Stealth Rock
     

    srinator

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    lol that set so easily countered by ferro \o/ on a friendly note aura sphere>dragon pulse


    Counter that Pokémon

    Ferrothorn @ Leftovers
    Ability: Iron Barbs
    EVs: 252 Atk / 252 HP / 4 SDef
    Brave Nature
    IVs: 0 Spd
    - Power Whip
    - Curse
    - Stealth Rock
    - Gyro Ball


    0- Atk Mega Blastoise Rapid Spin vs. 252 HP / 0+ Def Ferrothorn: 5-6 (1.4 - 1.7%) -- possibly the worst move ever
    lol
    252+ SpA Mega Launcher Mega Blastoise Dragon Pulse vs. 252 HP / 4 SpD Ferrothorn: 68-81 (19.3 - 23%) -- possible 6HKO after Leftovers recovery
    252+ SpA Mega Launcher Mega Blastoise Dark Pulse vs. 252 HP / 4 SpD Ferrothorn: 130-153 (36.9 - 43.4%) -- 99.3% chance to 3HKO after Leftovers recovery
    252+ SpA Mega Launcher Mega Blastoise Water Pulse vs. 252 HP / 4 SpD Ferrothorn: 72-86 (20.4 - 24.4%) -- possible 6HKO after Leftovers recovery


    on the bright side ;)
    252 Atk Ferrothorn Power Whip vs. 252 HP / 0 Def Mega Blastoise: 270-318 (74.5 - 87.8%) -- 6.3% chance to OHKO after Stealth Rock
     
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    Chocolate™

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    Charizard(Mega-Y) @ Charizardite-Y
    Modest Nature
    Trait: Drought
    252 S.Atk / 252 Speed/ 6 Def
    - Fire Blast
    - Solar Beam
    - Focus Blast
    - Air Slash

    Explains itself.
     
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    srinator

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    everyone keeps using mega zard, people change, anyway

    you prolly didnt see this coming but

    Counter that Pokémon


    Ampharos @ Ampharosite
    Ability: Static
    EVs: 252 Spd / 252 SAtk / 4 HP
    Modest Nature
    - Dragon Pulse
    - Thunderbolt
    - Focus Blast
    - Agility

    252 SpA Mega Charizard Y Solar Beam vs. 252 HP / 4 SpD Mega Ampharos: 70-82 (18.2 - 21.3%) -- possible 5HKO
    252 SpA Mega Charizard Y Focus Blast vs. 252 HP / 4 SpD Mega Ampharos: 140-165 (36.4 - 42.9%) -- guaranteed 3HKO
    252 SpA Mega Charizard Y Fire Blast vs. 252 HP / 4 SpD Mega Ampharos in Sun: 144-169 (37.5 - 44%) -- guaranteed 3HKO
    252 SpA Mega Charizard Y Air Slash vs. 252 HP / 4 SpD Mega Ampharos: 66-78 (17.1 - 20.3%) -- possible 5HKO

    whereas

    252+ SpA Mold Breaker Mega Ampharos Thunderbolt vs. 4 HP / 0 SpD Mega Charizard Y: 342-404 (114.7 - 135.5%) -- guaranteed OHKO
     
    Nah

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    All hail Lord Hippo:
    Counter that Pokémon

    -Hippowdon w/Leftovers
    Nature: Careful
    Ability: Sand Stream
    EVs: 252 HP, 252 Sp.Defense, 4 Attack
    Moves: Earthquake, Slack Off, Ice Fang, Stone Edge


    252+ SpA Mold Breaker Mega Ampharos Dragon Pulse vs. 252 HP / 252+ SpD Hippowdon: 160-190 (38 - 45.2%) -- guaranteed 3HKO after Leftovers recovery
    252+ SpA Mold Breaker Mega Ampharos Focus Blast vs. 252 HP / 252+ SpD Hippowdon: 152-179 (36.1 - 42.6%) -- 94.8% chance to 3HKO after Leftovers recovery
    4 Atk Hippowdon Earthquake vs. 4 HP / 0 Def Mega Ampharos: 230-272 (71.4 - 84.4%) -- guaranteed 2HKO after sandstorm damage
     
    Dark Azelf

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    R.F. said:
    Bisharp @Live Orb
    Ability: Defiant
    EVs: 32 HP/ 252 Atk / 224 Spe
    Nature: Adamant
    - Sucker Punch
    - Knock Off
    - Iron Head
    - Sword Dance

    252+ Atk Life Orb Bisharp Knock Off (97.5 BP) vs. 252 HP / 252+ Def Trevenant: 377-447 (100.8 - 119.5%) -- guaranteed OHKO
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    252+ Atk Life Orb burned Bisharp Knock Off (97.5 BP) vs. 252 HP / 252+ Def Trevenant: 188-224 (50.2 - 59.8%) -- guaranteed 2HKO

    Not a counter.


    Peitharchia said:
    Counter that Pokémon


    Blastoise @ Blastoisinite
    Trait: Mega Launcher
    EVs: 252 SpA / 252 HP / 4 SpD
    Nature: Modest
    - Rapid Spin
    - Water Pulse
    - Dark Pulse
    - Dragon Pulse

    Knocks Aerodactyl down with just one Water Pulse.

    252+ SpA Mega Launcher Mega Blastoise Water Pulse vs. 4 HP / 0 SpD Mega Aerodactyl: 348-410 (115.2 - 135.7%) -- guaranteed OHKO

    252 Atk Mega Aerodactyl Rock Slide vs. 252 HP / 0 Def Mega Blastoise: 109-129 (30.1 - 35.6%) -- 27.9% chance to 3HKO
    252 Atk Tough Claws Mega Aerodactyl Thunder Fang vs. 252 HP / 0 Def Mega Blastoise: 166-196 (45.8 - 54.1%) -- 53.1% chance to 2HKO
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    The bolded explains why it isnt a counter. Need def evs. ;)

    Anyway @ above post

    Tangrowth@Choice Specs
    108 HP / 252 S.Atk / 148 Speed
    Modest Nature
    Trait: Regenerator
    - Leaf Storm
    - Focus Blast
    - Hidden Power Fire
    - AncientPower

    Dont need to say anything really. ;)
     
    Pryze

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    Goodra@Assault Vest
    Trait: Gooey
    Modest Nature (+Sp.A -Atk)
    252 HP / 4 Sp.D / 252 Sp.A
    -Draco Meteor
    -Fire Blast
    -Sludge Wave
    -Focus Blast

    252+ SpA Choice Specs Tangrowth Focus Blast vs. 252 HP / 4 SpD Assault Vest Goodra: 90-106 (23.4 - 27.6%) -- 75.5% chance to 4HKO
    252+ SpA Choice Specs Tangrowth Leaf Storm vs. 252 HP / 4 SpD Assault Vest Goodra: 72-86 (18.7 - 22.3%) -- possible 5HKO

    Goodra laughs at anything Growth has to throw at it, and retaliates with Fire Blast, Sludge Wave, or Draco; all of which OHKO or 2HKO.
     

    srinator

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    goodra is tough one, i thought mawile at first but thats not a counter just a lucky prediction since fblast kills me, no dragons since draco can kill me on switch in.

    all i could possibly come up with was a special wall blissey which still doesn't make the job easier. That goodra move pool is just too versatile.


    Counter that Pokémon


    Blissey (F) @ Leftovers
    Ability: Natural Cure
    EVs: 4 Def / 252 HP / 252 SDef
    Calm Nature
    - Seismic Toss
    - Soft-Boiled
    - Toxic
    - Protect

    252+ SpA Goodra Draco Meteor vs. 252 HP / 252+ SpD Blissey: 121-144 (16.9 - 20.1%) -- possible 7HKO after Leftovers recovery
    252+ SpA Goodra Focus Blast vs. 252 HP / 252+ SpD Blissey: 150-178 (21 - 24.9%) -- possible 5HKO after Leftovers recovery
    252+ SpA Goodra Sludge Bomb vs. 252 HP / 252+ SpD Blissey: 56-67 (7.8 - 9.3%) -- possibly the worst move ever
    252+ SpA Goodra Fire Blast vs. 252 HP / 252+ SpD Blissey: 68-81 (9.5 - 11.3%) -- possibly the worst move ever

    given that focus blast is prone to miss a lot, and i have toxic and soft boil i think she is a good choice.

    Blissey Seismic Toss vs. 252 HP Goodra: 100-100 (26 - 26%) -- guaranteed 4HKO

    man this one made me go through all the mons there is
     
    Megan

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    Aegislash @ Leftovers
    Ability: Stance Change
    EVs: 252 HP/ 252 Atk/ 4 SDef
    Nature: Adamant
    - King's Shield
    - Shadow Sneak
    - Sacret Sword
    - Swords Dance

    Blissey can't do anything making it perfect setup bait. It gets easily 1HKOed with Sacret Sword.
     

    srinator

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    Counter that Pokémon


    Talonflame @ choice band
    Ability: Gale Wings
    EVs: 252 Spd / 252 Atk / 4 HP
    Jolly Nature
    - Flare Blitz
    - Brave Bird
    - Roost
    - Swords Dance


    252+ Atk Aegislash-Blade Shadow Sneak vs. 4 HP / 0 Def Talonflame: 106-126 (35.5 - 42.2%) -- guaranteed 3HKO
    252+ Atk Aegislash-Blade Sacred Sword vs. 4 HP / 0 Def Talonflame: 79-94 (26.5 - 31.5%) -- guaranteed 4HKO

    252 Atk Choice Band Talonflame Flare Blitz vs. 252 HP / 0 Def Aegislash-Shield: 302-356 (93.2 - 109.8%) -- 62.5% chance to OHKO
     
    Nah

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    Counter that Pokémon

    -Carracosta w/White Herb
    Nature: Adamant
    Ability: Solid Rock
    EVs: 252 Attack, 252 HP, 4 Defense
    Moves: Shell Smash, Aqua Jet, Rock Slide, Earthquake

    Now we have a dead Talonflame.
     

    srinator

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    now lets have some carracosta for lunch shall we?

    Counter that Pokémon


    Venusaur @ Venusaurite
    Ability: Overgrow
    EVs: 252 SDef / 252 HP / 4 SAtk
    Calm Nature
    - Giga Drain
    - Sludge Bomb
    - Synthesis
    - Leech Seed


    252+ Atk Carracosta Aqua Jet vs. 252 HP / 0 Def Mega Venusaur: 27-32 (7.4 - 8.7%) -- possibly the worst move ever
    252+ Atk Carracosta Rock Slide vs. 252 HP / 0 Def Mega Venusaur: 100-118 (27.4 - 32.4%) -- guaranteed 4HKO
    252+ Atk Carracosta Earthquake vs. 252 HP / 0 Def Mega Venusaur: 89-105 (24.4 - 28.8%) -- 99.5% chance to 4HKO


    4+ SpA Mega Venusaur Giga Drain vs. 4 HP / 0 SpD Carracosta: 604-712 (208.2 - 245.5%) -- guaranteed OHKO
     
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