Leaks/Rumors Discussion Thread

[Ewery1]

A freshly new leak has arrived:

Spoiler:

This gives us a total number of 104 Pokémon if true.

And that doesn't include Alola Forms and (HOPEFULLY) Megas because those are national. Hm... I'd be very okay with different types for islands actually, if the design changed as well.

 

[Desert Stream~]

Here's a sort of update on the leaks that were posted here a couple of days ago;

Spoiler:

>Greninja-Ash will appear in the game. This can have the same agreement with the bracelet Z announced, as it is a form of synchronization on the Pokémon.

>Raticate and Rattata Type Alolan will Sinister.

>Alolan Butterfree will be Bug Type / Phychic

>Abra, Kadabra and Alakazam will Alolan Fight Type.

>Alolan Nidoking and Nidoqueen will become Poison Type / Fight.

>Growlithe and Arcanine Type Alolan Water will become.

>Alolan Doduo and Dodrio will be flying Type / Fight.

>New forms of Alolan for the first generation, can only be obtained by transferring the Pokémon Games Virtual Console 3DS Red, Blue and Yellow but not be limited only to these games. (I suppose Pokemon GO will work with the Games like Masuda said)

>Furfrou get a new style, which will be somewhat acclimatized depending on the island of Alola.

>Cats will have new Pokémon variety regarding parenting.

>A snow man came also with Rate Ice / Ghost

>Final evolutions of the original will be two.

>The latter can be based with the evolution of Gender and explain why the evolution of Popplio is a Mermaid.

The first sentence I hate, I hope Ash-Greninja stays in the anime (Wouldn't mind if they got rid of it there :p)
The rest I can hardly understand, but I hate most of the leaks :(

 

[Road]

Huh, have we been speculating various secondary types for the starter finals evos for awhile? Any idea on what they'll be based on? Oricorio was based on the islands (right??) so are we thinking the same for the starters based on where they evolve? :o

You guys seem really in on the rumors, so I was wondering: do we have anything more on Hyper Training and Bottle Caps? I'm really eager to learn how to get BCs. I already know Mageana will come with the really high one (I have her QR code heheh), but what about other ones?

 

[Desert Stream~]

I am also not wanting split starter evolutions, especially if it is gender based. Imagine Combee.

 

[Entermaid]

A freshly new leak has arrived:

Spoiler:

This gives us a total number of 104 Pokémon if true.

I love leaks! Even if they are fake (as long as they are believable enough). They get us through the hype season. Unfortunately, this seems to be off. There are no fossil pokemon? Unless rockruff or minior, likely not both as a pair, are considered to be the single fossil pokemon. That would be a bit disappointing. Though, the idea might be that Rockruff can evolve into basically four different types.

 

[MarinoKadame]

The only time we had no new fossils was in Generation 2.

 

[Hikamaru]

Gonna share some of my thoughts here, spoilers below:

Spoiler:

Bruxish having a pre-evolution was something I hoped since I didn't really imagine Bruxish being a standalone Pokemon. Maybe I could see it being a Lumineon clone as the typical two-stage fish Pokemon.

Drampa being part of a two-stage line pretty much means it's not the pseudo-legendary, but since pseudo-legendaries are usually near the end of the dex and are three-stage lines with 600 BST makes me wonder what the pseudo-legend is then.

Mimikyu being a standalone seems given since it appears to be nothing more than just a gimmick. Bewear being standalone as well kinda fits since its design looks too simplistic to suggest a pre-evo or evo for it. Oricorio is also likely a gimmick which is also why it has no evolution line.

Snohom and Snorror appear to be the snowman Pokemon that was mentioned in one of the recent leaks, Delfin and Porprise suggests our long-awaited dolphin Pokemon. Goruggla looks like it's the rugby monkey.

Komala's evolution becomes part Psychic? I guess I could consider that typing useful since it does lose the weakness to Fighting in exchange for Bug and Dark weaknesses.

Cutiefly evolving only once seems to disappoint that someone who hoped it would evolve twice. Also I totally didn't expect Wimpod to be a middle stage in its evolution line.

Bounsweet apparently has a Poison-type evolution? Maybe this suggests branched evolution line since it also appears to have a Grass/Psychic evolution.

No new fossils? Rockruff and Minior don't scream fossils, so if this is the case 7th Gen will only be the second generation ever that hasn't introduced a new fossil, with 2nd Gen being the other.

The island guardians being Fire, Ghost, Electric and Psychic seems to be something I speculated ever since I saw Oricorio's forms have those same types. I guess those are the types the four islands will be themed around.

Malshadow (Marshadow) is Dark/Fire? That heavily contradicts the leak that said it was going to have a unique typing. Also, it appears we'll still be suffering the Poison Legendary hoodoo if this list is true.

And then there's this "Various" type that I guess likely confirms the split evolution rumor? Rockruff's evolution appears to have four different secondary types mentioned in the list. They appear to be Steel, Dark, Fighting and uh... Fairy or Flying?

Anyways, I could have added more but this being the potential leak of the entire new Pokemon roster is definitely huge indeed. 109 also makes this the fourth-largest generation, behind Gens 3, 1 and 5 respectively.

 

[OmegaRuby and AlphaSapphire]

Gonna share some of my thoughts here, spoilers below:

Spoiler:

Bruxish having a pre-evolution was something I hoped since I didn't really imagine Bruxish being a standalone Pokemon. Maybe I could see it being a Lumineon clone as the typical two-stage fish Pokemon.

Drampa being part of a two-stage line pretty much means it's not the pseudo-legendary, but since pseudo-legendaries are usually near the end of the dex and are three-stage lines with 600 BST makes me wonder what the pseudo-legend is then.

Mimikyu being a standalone seems given since it appears to be nothing more than just a gimmick. Bewear being standalone as well kinda fits since its design looks too simplistic to suggest a pre-evo or evo for it. Oricorio is also likely a gimmick which is also why it has no evolution line.

Snohom and Snorror appear to be the snowman Pokemon that was mentioned in one of the recent leaks, Delfin and Porprise suggests our long-awaited dolphin Pokemon. Goruggla looks like it's the rugby monkey.

Komala's evolution becomes part Psychic? I guess I could consider that typing useful since it does lose the weakness to Fighting in exchange for Bug and Dark weaknesses.

Cutiefly evolving only once seems to disappoint that someone who hoped it would evolve twice. Also I totally didn't expect Wimpod to be a middle stage in its evolution line.

Bounsweet apparently has a Poison-type evolution? Maybe this suggests branched evolution line since it also appears to have a Grass/Psychic evolution.

No new fossils? Rockruff and Minior don't scream fossils, so if this is the case 7th Gen will only be the second generation ever that hasn't introduced a new fossil, with 2nd Gen being the other.

The island guardians being Fire, Ghost, Electric and Psychic seems to be something I speculated ever since I saw Oricorio's forms have those same types. I guess those are the types the four islands will be themed around.

Malshadow (Marshadow) is Dark/Fire? That heavily contradicts the leak that said it was going to have a unique typing. Also, it appears we'll still be suffering the Poison Legendary hoodoo if this list is true.

And then there's this "Various" type that I guess likely confirms the split evolution rumor? Rockruff's evolution appears to have four different secondary types mentioned in the list. They appear to be Steel, Dark, Fighting and uh... Fairy or Flying?

Anyways, I could have added more but this being the potential leak of the entire new Pokemon roster is definitely huge indeed. 109 also makes this the fourth-largest generation, behind Gens 3, 1 and 5 respectively.

Uh, Pinkie said 104. The 109 is another rumor than the one Pinkie shared. 104 will tie this Gen with Gen IV (Sinnoh remakes confirmed!)

 

[Pinkie-Dawn]

Drampa being part of a two-stage line pretty much means it's not the pseudo-legendary, but since pseudo-legendaries are usually near the end of the dex and are three-stage lines with 600 BST makes me wonder what the pseudo-legend is then.

#815-817 are supposedly our pseudo-legendary line.

Snohom and Snorror appear to be the snowman Pokemon that was mentioned in one of the recent leaks, Delfin and Porprise suggests our long-awaited dolphin Pokemon. Goruggla looks like it's the rugby monkey.

And Cumbersum is our sea cucumber from the leak.

Malshadow (Marshadow) is Dark/Fire? That heavily contradicts the leak that said it was going to have a unique typing. Also, it appears we'll still be suffering the Poison Legendary hoodoo if this list is true.

According to the leaker, Malshadow's ability allows it shift types.

And then there's this "Various" type that I guess likely confirms the split evolution rumor? Rockruff's evolution appears to have four different secondary types mentioned in the list. They appear to be Steel, Dark, Fighting and uh... Fairy or Flying?

Definitely Fairy as confirmed by the leaker. He also confirmed the types for other Pokémon with "Various":

Robinroot: Grass/Flying, Grass, Grass/Ground, Grass/Electric

Beltigre: Fire/Dark, Fire, Fire/Ghost, Fire/Poison

Sirene: Water/Fairy, Water, Water/Fighting, Water/Psychic

Weruff: Rock/Dark, Rock/Fighting, Rock/Steel, Rock/Fairy

Porprise: Water/Ice, Water/Steel, Water/Fairy, Water/Dragon

Darline/Darwisker: the fabled breed cats. Normal/Anything.

 

[Hikamaru]

Uh, Pinkie said 104. The 109 is another rumor than the one Pinkie shared. 104 will tie this Gen with Gen IV (Sinnoh remakes confirmed!)

Guess it was an oversight on my part, and I'm sure 4th Gen had 107 new Pokemon.

Anyways, as the comments in the link said the legitimacy of this list will be determined if any of the names of currently unrevealed Pokemon show up in Friday's trailer. But that said, I'm really not going to be able to stomach the potential of split evolutions for Rockruff and the starters, even if it will slightly appeal to some people who don't like the leaked concept art.

And replying to Pinkie, it appears the starters and Rockruff do have split evolutions after all. Maybe this could be the first generation I actually box my starter in since I don't like the idea of it, but it'll come down to how the evolution is determined before I make a final choice on my future Popplio's fate.

Dark/Electric for pseudo-legendary's typing? That will make it only the third pseudo-legend to not be a Dragon-type, plus Dark/Electric is a unique type combination as well which would be nice.

 

[Desert Stream~]

I doubt every single pokemon would leak this early, but you never know I guess? I like some of the ideas, but also hate some of them :/

 

[Hikamaru]

I doubt every single pokemon would leak this early, but you never know I guess? I like some of the ideas, but also hate some of them :/

BW pre-release had a moment where the entire new Pokemon list was leaked before the game's release and Serebii was threatened with a cease-and-desist note. At least we know Serebii (aka Joe, not the site) may pick up on this but won't share it yet he'll still share his thoughts on Twitter.

 

[Desert Stream~]

BW pre-release had a moment where the entire new Pokemon list was leaked before the game's release and Serebii was threatened with a cease-and-desist note. At least we know Serebii (aka Joe, not the site) may pick up on this but won't share it yet he'll still share his thoughts on Twitter.

Yes but that was a bit closer to release wasn't it? It seems rather early for a leek so big.

 

[Gulpin]

I feel like the "Various" type for the starters/Werewuff/Porprise are not really spit evolutions. Because looking at the list, there appear to be quite a good number of traditional split evolutions that are to completely different Pokemon: Bounsweet to Bountisteen/Bounsour, Parkoon to Flycicle/Hijacoon, Hydratom to Posatom/Negatom, and Guaroyal to Torgoyle/Forgoyle. With all of these being actual split evolutions, I don't think the "Various" typing is actually split. With that in mind, perhaps the type the Pokemon is depends on where/when it is evolved, or can be changed freely via some mechanic. What I'm interested in is if the secondary type is permanent, and if the secondary type significantly influences the design.

Overall, I feel like this list seems pretty solid. The Various type feature seems extremely plausible, and would probably be the 'secret' shared by Rockruff and the starters. Looking at the list, there seem to be a lot of interesting Pokemon/typings/evolutions, so I hope it is real!

 

[Bigdog]

I personally hope Popplio-mermaid is real because we needed a more feminine looking starter; I don't think we've ever had that since...Meganium, maybe?

I personally prefer Meganium over the leaked starter [assuming its real] because Meganium doesn't look human in the least. If they get into uncanny valley territory with the 8th generation and have Nina as a starter, I'll laugh my way away from the franchise. We don't need Digimon.

 

[Z25]

So a comment on the smash thing:

Bi pedal or quad doesn't matter for smash reps. It's all in the moveset. A water type always has options for recoveries, such as waterfall, surf, etc.

Fire has options such as fire spin, fly, etc. If litten's was chosen, a fighting move could be it's recovery. Like little macs.

For Rowlet's, it could fly.

For poplio's, either surf, or any other water move could work.

Greninja's is hydropump so it doesn't matter much.

Pokemon reps are chosen based on popularity in smash.

Also that leak with random compilations is fake, it has the captains on the wrong island.

 

[OmegaRuby and AlphaSapphire]

So a comment on the smash thing:

Bi pedal or quad doesn't matter for smash reps. It's all in the moveset. A water type always has options for recoveries, such as waterfall, surf, etc.

Fire has options such as fire spin, fly, etc. If litten's was chosen, a fighting move could be it's recovery. Like little macs.

For Rowlet's, it could fly.

For poplio's, either surf, or any other water move could work.

Greninja's is hydropump so it doesn't matter much.

Pokemon reps are chosen based on popularity in smash.

Also that leak with random compilations is fake, it has the captains on the wrong island.

Except for Greninja, who was chosen before XY came out.

Wait, so the 'dex' is fake? (sorry, I've been out of the rumor loop).

 

[Nath74K]

I'm wondering, maybe the starters have a different evolution depending on the version of the game? It would be a great way for Nintendo to sell both versions more, by giving the starter exclusive evolutions that way.

 

[TheLegendaryGuy]

Here, I got some cool leaks from a Chinese media:
*The anime's Ash-Greninja will appear in the game
*Alolan Rattata & Raticate are Dark-type
*Alolan Butterfree is Bug/Psychic
*Alolan Abra, Kadabra & Alakazam are Fighting-type
*Alolan Nidoking & Nidoqueen are Poison/Fighting-type
*Alolan Growlithe & Arcanine are Water-type
*Alolan Doduo & Dodrio are Fighting/Flying-type
*The previous versions of Pokémon which have taken on new forms will only be accessible by bringing in from older games
*Furfrou gets new styles
*New cat Pokémon varies in type and appearance based on breeding
*There is a new snowman Pokémon line with two stages and it is Ice/Ghost
*Not to get hopes up, but there may be two final evolutions for each starter
However, according to the original post, these information may still be taken as a grain of salt as there are no official confirmation and strong source that points to the actual data of these Alola forms. The final evolutions for the starter pokémon may be an indicator though as these information were from the same sources.

 

[L'Belle]

I would LOVE to see another Ice/ghost type since Froslass is my favourite pokémon.