YGO: Individual Card Discussion

[Frostweaver]

DDA should definitely be restricted by the next ban list, and finally cool off warrior by a bit. If reinforcement of the army can't call out *that* many monster destruction effect monsters anymore, then maybe there won't be so many warrior toolbox running around.

Why don't we move on to the next card now...

Broww, Huntsman of the Darkworld

If this card is discarded from the hand to the Graveyard by a card effect, draw 1 card from your Deck. If this card is discarded from the hand by your opponent's card effect, draw 1 more card from your Deck.


What's the use of this card outside of the focused Dark World deck? How splashable will this be against Don Zaloog and Spirit Reaper, or will the destruction of Goldd be forever better than the drawing power of Broww?

 

[Agent9]

well since you generally will discard alot in dark world swarm you need to maintain a hand. When you discard via cheerful coffin. you lost -3 but you gain +1 from Broww. Dark World discards alot and it won't have much hand in late game.

3/5 dark world

other decks 1/5 unless you use as tech in an exodia deck. rofl.

Let's hope Kevin Tewart restricts or bans the over use of DDAs. DDWL will probaly replace DDA. Not that it's been not used.

 

[Frostweaver]

DDWL is the first one, and DDA is the one to replace DDWL actually =/ Most likely DDW will be made more common (eventually) and replace DDA and DDWL.

In Dark World, that card is a must have most of the time because it's at least trading for some new cards. Even outside of dark world, I don't see it as useless. With that many spirit reapers and don zaloogs running around, it's a great tech card to own one of in the hand in any decks. Flip Flop Control may have no room for it, though.

 

[MegaDitto]

It's a sad thing no one plays Confiscation anymore.

Agent9 ,the order is wrong. Frostweaver explained it. D.D Warrior Lady is better than D.D Assiliant generally. It was it's replacement when D.D Warrior Lady was restricted to 1. D.D Warrior is next in line after D.D Assiliant. But Newordia is more of of a better replacement that D.D Warrior, even though it's not a D.D monster and not a warrior type. Not to mention less expensive and avaivable.

Kevin Tewart brough up Tribe Infecting Virus and Pot of Greed being banned. He can do more than you think. He can destroy this game if he wanted to. But he is not like that.

Broww, Huntsman of the Darkworld, Sillva, Warlord of Dark World and Goldd, Wu-Lord of Dark World . They are the only ones playable outside of their own deck. They made wonderful play in the decks and side decks of the last Shonen Jump Championship. Not to mention some of the top 8 decks. (Then that must be the reason why nobody had anything in the side decks to counter the burn decks. Which made top 8. For the first time >/D)

Broww, Huntsman of the Dark World gives draw power which is what we need the most in this format. We got Dark Hole back for removal. Even though we lost Ring of Desruction, Tribe Infecting Virus , Mirror Force and Black Luster Soldier. Which were some of the best monster removal cards in the game. Dark Hole is still wonderful on it's own. Same for Broww, Huntsman of the Dark World . Discard it by your own card effect gives you a card. Which make's great combos with Card Desruction and Morphing Jar. Discard by your opponent card effect gives you a Pot of Greed. I say this is a semi -staple in the side deck. Not in the main deck because you would not really want to summon this card. Depending on the situation. Keeping it in your havd would give your opponent a idea for a free hit. Which they may fall for.

We must not forget the Thestalos Firestorm Monarch which gives discard power also for it's effect from the cookie cutter Soul Control. And Robbin Goblin which is gaining play step by step.

Dark World: 5/5

Traditional: 5/5(All of the discard cards will increase this card chances of using it's effect.

Avdanced: 5/5

 

[Forci Stikane]

...I'm glad someone mentioned the Card Desturction combo...but if you've left yourself wide open for an attack from a hand-destroyer, you'll probably want a Goldd/Silva in hand as opposed to Broww, so that at least you'll have some protection from anything else that attacks.

 

[MegaDitto]

True. I would use Silva. Even though Goldd could destroy the monsters also and making a atack to win the game.I would rather use Silva's effect to be more secure to prevent any spell card my opponent may play on the main phase 2 or a set card to that can destroy Silva or change the game. But it depends on the situation.

New card.

 

[Frostweaver]

This card will force most decks to have no more but...

1 Call of the Haunted
1 Torrential Tribute
3 Royal Decree
(1 Dust Tornado possibly as well)

It's an all-out offensive deck because now you have absolutely no protection in the form of traps, but it's the same for them. The only thing that hinders this trap lineup is Dust Tornado. It seems really pointless if Decree activates in order to stop a trap, only to be stopped by a trap chaining on to this trap. Mobius can handle traps fairly well, since most traps used in the current metagame can only be activated in the battle phrase. Decree's power and usage solely relies on what kind of cards are played. Right now it's mainly Mobius and Dust Tornado, and both of them are easier to use than Royal Decree... too bad.

Dark Magician decks should really consider this card. They may lose the protection of Sakuretsu Armor and Widespread Ruin if they use Royal Decree, but they got their own precious magic cards to save themselves while destroying the enemy all at once. This may also take out Magician's Circle, but Dark Magician got Skilled Dark Magician to compensate a bit.

 

[MegaDitto]

It is true on the factor of Dark Magician decks using this card. They can benefit well from using this card.

Royal Decree is a great card short and simple. It depends on that meta of when it is used. It can be a great card at most and bad at some. It is the trap version of Imperial Order but Imperial Order is better in certain ways. Royal Decree does have a flaw like it though, it can not be chosen to stop like Imperial Order so it can disturb the game for you until something destroys it. Unlink Imperial you can refuse to pay life points to destroy it.


It is a good card to use but it depends on your trap lineup and what you use. If important traps are needed for your deck it can screw up your game >_>. Last Turn for example. It also does depends on your source of your spell of trap removal

Being a counting trap card does have it uses and can make a win. It really depends on your choice to use it. But every card has it flaws. This card flaws can help.

4/5 either format.

Does anyone have ideas for new cards?

 

[Frostweaver]

Must revive YGO in PC...

Discard 1 card from your hand during Main Phase 1. This monster can attack twice during the Battle Phase of any turn this effect is used.


This is a common from Dark Beginnings 2, so it's fair enough to say that everyone has an easy access to this card? Wind type always needed the support, and lvl 3 sneak pass Gravity Bind/Level Limit Area B. Dragon Subtype is ok, as all dragon support goes towards the high tribute ones...

1300 attack does get pass Messenger of Peace, but I doubt that this trait is useful for this monster since those who rely on Messenger of Peace to stall usually have more def than 1300. Even with Rising Air Current for a wind deck, it still can't get pass Stealth Bird defense though in a burn deck. With that in mind, we don't even need to talk about Cookie Cutter's Gravekeeper's Spy. The Apprentice Magician defense will also laugh at Gray Wing as Magician can easily force Gray Wing's 2nd attack to target an Old Vindictive Magician or Magician of Faith (most likely retrieving Dimension Magic or Heavy Storm if they want to get on the offense). Gray Wing really needs a clear backfield to attack.

Besides the usual wind support, Gray Wing seems to have no benefit at all except for Super Rejuvenation. Discarding a dragon type with Gray Wing's effect will allow you to draw a card, and tributing Gray Wing for a higher level dragon can mean another card. If you got a bad hand but you got a Super Juvenation, Gray Wing can be compensate your hand a bit by discarding for its effect, then tributing it for a monarch, then activate Super Rejuvenation to get 2 new cards in exchange for 2 that you don't really want. it's still a terrible trade, but in times of crisis you do want any method possible at getting a better hand.

Matazza the Zapper is a warrior, has a dark attribute (far superior to wind, and tomato friendly... who uses the wind searchers?) and got the same effect without a need to discard... The only thing going for gray wing is its possible combo with super rejuvenation, which has a limited potential at max... oh well, cheap decks can't get everything. They're cheap for a reason.

 

[MegaDitto]

True that Matazza is better, but it is a good card still. 2.8/5

New card.

*tries to revive*

 

[Mullet]

True that Matazza is better, but it is a good card still. 2.8/5

New card.

*tries to revive*

I knew this had to be comming eventually.

This is the only good draw card left in the Advanced Format metagame (PoA is one but your HAVE to have 5 monsters in your grave before you use it). It's a 1 for 1 (because no one uses Bokoichi), so it's far from the draw power of Graceful, PoG and even PoA. The draw effect does come in a monster though so you get a line of defence, or a monster to attack with, 3.5-4/5.

 

[Frostweaver]

Dekoichi isn't splashable... let's emphasize that. It's one of the key players of Flip-Flop Control (FFC Decks), and is greatly abusable with Tsukuyomi/Book of Moon (or anything techy that can flip stuff facedown.) Only if it can be reused will Dekoichi ever be more than 1 for 1.

It's a poor draw engine really if it can't be reused. It is bad for field presense if you can't protect it and flip it again. Most offensive decks may not like its cost of a summon, and instead may want to rely on special summoning monsters (GK Spy, Sangan, RotA and elemental searchers) to deck thin in order to raise the draw rate of a spell/trap card. Stall decks that rely on winning without battle damage will just stick with Des Lacooda, which is superior to Dekoichi as long as no one touches it.

It's not a really good draw engine, but it's a draw and it can't be that bad. Just don't rely on Dekoichi to be your main drawing method. You'll definitely need some other cards to help with deck thinning and further drawing. Decks that uses LLAB, MoP and/or GB (the 3 main stalls) should never touch this card, as there will always be Des Lacooda for a much more efficient draw engine.

 

[:.~*Saix*~.:]

I Have It But I Give It A 7/10 because it is Banned from dueling

 

[MegaDitto]

I Have It But I Give It A 7/10 because it is Banned from dueling

Erh, it ins't banned. Nor restricted at all.

Frostweaver: Dekoichi is a bit more splashable than Des Lacooda. You still may get a draw before the monster is destroyed. And it does not require much protection for it. It still has a +1 chance.

Something. New.............or old to be honest.

 

[Frostweaver]

The only thing keeping Nobleman of Crossout from being completely banned is whining... It got no drawbacks. It gets a facedown every single time. It can kill multiple copies if it does hit a flip. It's superior to every other monster destruction as it targets facedown (which is rare.) Really... any form of semi-aggressive decks should max this card out asap.

 

[Forci Stikane]

...Mill vs. Mill...Nobleman a Needle Worm, and BOOM! Both decks are wiped out.

It can backfire much too easily.

 

[MegaDitto]

Somebody needs to update this. >_______________________________________<

 

[Forci Stikane]

There's a reason why it's banned...1600 ATK, free monster clearing, non-tribute...it's too powerful.

 

[Zeno_the_dark_one]

how do u guys stad on ancient gear golem, soldier, and beast?

 

[Frostweaver]

guess that tribe kills off toolbox instantly, and hence why it's banned o_o; too bad.

Well in the upcoming set, there is a weaker version of Tribe Infecting Virus coming out. It's also a monster with much weaker stats, and it destroys one monster and not a type of monsters... guess we'll have to make do with that instead.