Unpopular Opinions

[Sloxy]

Ash losing the Kalos League was justifiable, sure extremely annoying. The better opponent came out on top.

 

[weedle_mchairybug]

Ash losing the Kalos League was justifiable, sure extremely annoying. The better opponent came out on top.

Maybe, but they really shouldn't have heavily foreshadowed that he would win, certainly not do so right after Alola was revealed to not even HAVE gyms or an already existing Pokémon League.

 

[alisaie]

We're actually considering replacing the Shipping thread with something else in the Splash, if possibly temporary, because of the lack of Shipping in SuMo haha. I mean, other than the canon ship of Kukui x Burnet there wasn't too much in the way of shipping in general (at least Ash ships in particular. There's people shipping like Lillie x Mallow and such but those ships aren't really spoken about here on PC).

That said idk if it's an unpopular opinion here or not but I do not ship Ash romantically with anyone.

 

[Dragon]

Hot take: I kinda don't like it when people expect too much from Ash's Pikachu. Like all Pokémon, Pikachu loses here and there because Pikachu will only be as strong as he can get. That being said, he does have some great moments! But I think people forget that it's not as strong as a legendary Pokémon, for instance.

 

[weedle_mchairybug]

Hot take: I kinda don't like it when people expect too much from Ash's Pikachu. Like all Pokémon, Pikachu loses here and there because Pikachu will only be as strong as he can get. That being said, he does have some great moments! But I think people forget that it's not as strong as a legendary Pokémon, for instance.

Yeah, I'd buy that claim if it weren't for the fact that he practically one-shotted a Regice owned by a trainer who owns multiple legendaries by himself back in Battle Frontier. Maybe in Kanto, Johto, and Orange Islands, or, heck, even Hoenn, I could buy the idea of his not being as strong as a legendary Pokémon, but after how he defeated Regice, which last I checked was a legendary, I'd argue he's definitely strong enough to at least compete with them if not outright beat them.

 

[Dragon]

Yeah, I'd buy that claim if it weren't for the fact that he practically one-shotted a Regice owned by a trainer who owns multiple legendaries by himself back in Battle Frontier. Maybe in Kanto, Johto, and Orange Islands, or, heck, even Hoenn, I could buy the idea of his not being as strong as a legendary Pokémon, but after how he defeated Regice, which last I checked was a legendary, I'd argue he's definitely strong enough to at least compete with them if not outright beat them.

The problem is, the writing for how strong Pikachu is isn't consistent, even after that battle. What about the times it lost to Panpour, Poliwrath, Electivire, and tied with Elekid and Pelliper?

Your point is just adding to my point where Pikachu does have better moments than most other Pokémon, but it's still a stretch to expect too much from it, except maybe in more critical moments.

 

[alisaie]

I agree with Shawn. I mean to reflect on that there's been many, many times when we battles where the supposedly underdog wins and the character with experience loses (May's first ribbon win is one moment as i just watched it. Although it did have the advantage it definitely wasn't as experienced but it won against the more experienced Medicham.) Wasnt a legendary, but still.

I think people just pick on Pikachu more because its been with us for so long and so at this point people expect him to win every battle but thats not how it works in the Pokemon Anime.

Sure, Pikachu has won against Legendaries but that shouldn't be a catch-all for every battle. Different trainers, different techniques, pressure... theres so many variables we see in battles that we see shouldn't have one battle be a deciding factor for every battle. In fact, just because we've seen Pikachu fight and beat a legendary Pokemon doesn't mean that others haven't either (nevermind the fact Ash is a Legendary Magnet).

Tldr; one win against legendary shouldn't be a determining factor for every battle after.

 

[weedle_mchairybug]

I agree with Shawn. I mean to reflect on that there's been many, many times when we battles where the supposedly underdog wins and the character with experience loses (May's first ribbon win is one moment as i just watched it. Although it did have the advantage it definitely wasn't as experienced but it won against the more experienced Medicham.) Wasnt a legendary, but still.

I think people just pick on Pikachu more because its been with us for so long and so at this point people expect him to win every battle but thats not how it works in the Pokemon Anime.

Sure, Pikachu has won against Legendaries but that shouldn't be a catch-all for every battle. Different trainers, different techniques, pressure... theres so many variables we see in battles that we see shouldn't have one battle be a deciding factor for every battle. In fact, just because we've seen Pikachu fight and beat a legendary Pokemon doesn't mean that others haven't either (nevermind the fact Ash is a Legendary Magnet).

Tldr; one win against legendary shouldn't be a determining factor for every battle after.

Maybe not, but Legendaries are not exactly pushovers, so beating them would give one some really serious street cred. Heck, even managing to catch one isn't exactly common and thus would bolster one's street cred. Even an untrained/"rookie" Legendary is still notoriously difficult to take down even among veteran trainers. That's another problem I have. I mean, I can understand if Pikachu just delivered the final blow after other Pokémon on Ash's team softened it up a bit, but after effectively single-handedly KOing it? And with barely much effort? I'm sorry, but that just doesn't work as an explanation, especially regarding "expecting too much" of Pikachu.

Besides, even "underdog" messages have a tendency to backfire and instead of making the heroes seem impressive as a result, just makes the opponents look pathetic. Just look at Team Rocket, for example. Even though, technically, Caterpie was an underdog against Team Rocket, it's win didn't make Ash look impressive, and if anything just resulted in JJM being considered bottom feeding trainers both among fans and in-universe (based on some of Misty's barbs and even some COTD's comments).

 

[alisaie]

Well, i suppose thats why what Shawn says is an unpopular opinion. :) i dont agree with you (but i rarely do so lol) re: pikachu because i feel like youre missing some points but i cbf trying to get you to see my side on anything anymore.

 

[kurohime]

as long as it serves its viewers with the adventure and story its viewer comes looking for its good to go. In my opinion pokemon does that with an ease no season it is.

 

[CiCi]

Shinji/Paul is an unexplored gold mine of character development and he got the short end of the stick.

 

[Disturbed]

buckle up because i have a really hot take

my unpopular opinion is
i really liked tracey. im truly sorry if i offended anyone

 

[Kolar™]

Well, i will say that, everything about the anime is perfect. They have learn their mistakes from the kanto sage. As the anime went on new series, it became better. But the manga was oposite (in my opinion).

Almost forgot, my unpopular opinionis, Ash is Handsome xD.

 

[Sloxy]

I hope you don't mean the Sun and Moon Ash... but ehh you do you I guess.

My unpopular opinion, I like the english dub openings more than the japanese dub openings (except XY and XYZ) I've memorized all of them now by heart, but when it gets to the early japanese ones they are just so forgettable. Even the Sun and Moon ones. The only Japanese one I've memorized by heart is the XYZ opening.

Do I prefer dub over sub? Ehhh, still not completely sure but I don't mind either of the two.

 

[Vragon2.0]

In BW anime, the Snivy beating Ash's pikachu is a plausible scenario.
Alan is one note and I don't like him.
SM is animated well
Ash's tepig is my favorite of his unova team
the Kalos League was my least favorite of the leagues
Team Rocket was nice being competent, I wished the stayed that way
Iris is better than Misty
Levels are not a thing to measure the anime with

 

[alisaie]

Vragon it's amazing how much our opinions mostly match up lmaoo. I love it.

 

[Vragon2.0]

Vragon it's amazing how much our opinions mostly match up lmaoo. I love it.

Guess great minds think alike

 

[Soccersam]

I feel that the BW series is way underrated, and it had actually had some really great moments. Sure, Black and White got off to a rocky start, what with Pikachu losing to Snivy and all, but for me, it just went uphill from there. While some filler episodes were a little minimal-quality, the rest of the episodes were quite good.

Even Team Rocket seemed like an actual threat and not just a bunch of comical goons. Team Plasma was ultra-badass, and Iris was a very interesting character.
The only thing I disliked about BW was introducing Cilan as a travelling companion. I don't know why, but for me, Cilan's annoying af.

 

[alisaie]

Disliking Cilan is the popular opinion. I'm in the unpopular vote and adore Cilan!! He's better in the Japanese version as some of his personality is honestly lost in translation (he's so much more extra in the japanese version and imo it's so beautiful! Doesn't help that his JP VA is just wonderful and did such a perfect job portraying Dent) but I adore him so much and he's so fun to watch.

So there's my unpopular opinion of the day lol.

 

[Alloute]

In BW anime, the Snivy beating Ash's pikachu is a plausible scenario.
Alan is one note and I don't like him.
SM is animated well
Ash's tepig is my favorite of his unova team
the Kalos League was my least favorite of the leagues
Team Rocket was nice being competent, I wished the stayed that way
Iris is better than Misty
Levels are not a thing to measure the anime with

How exactly were Team Rocket appealing when they were competent? They were soulless puppets with no personality back when they were competent for like the first 25 episodes of BW since they literally just followed Dr. Zager and Pierce's orders and had no minds of their own, which was frankly boring and trite.