5th Gen Where is Isshu? Confirmed - New York

[Omicron]

Do you guys realize baseball is a pretty popular sport in Japan, right??? -_-

 

[Bloothump]

Hm. I don't know about American Football, but I believe that baseball and basketball are pretty popular sports in Asia. But don't quote me on that. Seriously, don't. Also, I think that if Pokemon Musical is in Hiun, that could support the NYC argument because Broadway is a huge part of New York.
Also, does anyone have a link to this footage? I am yet to see it.

 

[rocky505]

The baseball caps are the only things I see about Baseball and I have not yet seen anything about basketball in a single pokemon game yet. If it's football it's America. And for japan with football that's soccer not FOOTBALL.

 

[GFA]

Baseball could be Asia ... its popular their, but AMERICAN Football is ... AMERICAN! Surprising isnt it?

 

[WarpstarX]

C'mon it has a friggin subway.

 

[Mana1]

The baseball caps are the only things I see about Baseball and I have not yet seen anything about basketball in a single pokemon game yet. If it's football it's America. And for japan with football that's soccer not FOOTBALL.

As I stated above, they play American football in Japan, I was not confusing it with 'Soccer'.

 

[rocky505]

As I stated above, they play American football in Japan, I was not confusing it with 'Soccer'.

It can't be american football unless it is in North America -_- unless the teams from North America go over to Japan for something.

 

[Mana1]

It can't be american football unless it is in North America -_- unless the teams from North America go over to Japan for something.

Google 'American Football in Japan' then come back, it's tiring you constantly arguing with people without looking up anything yourself.

 

[Bloothump]

C'mon it has a friggin subway.

I hate to break it to you but most major cities in the world have a subway system.

 

[rocky505]

Google 'American Football in Japan' then come back, it's tiring you constantly arguing with people without looking up anything yourself.

I wasn't arguing I was just saying how can it be American Football if it is not in North America. You take things WAY too seriously

 

[orange discontent]

Google 'American Football in Japan' then come back, it's tiring you constantly arguing with people without looking up anything yourself.

Yes, there is a semi-pro league in Japanland (not in China, though), but what's the first thing you think of when you hear American Football? Baseball is a lot more popular in Japan anyways, hence the anime having a baseball episode or whatever back in the day.

 

[Bloothump]

I wasn't arguing I was just saying how can it be American Football if it is not in North America. You take things WAY too seriously

It's "American Football" because it's the American's version of football (or soccer). Moving on.
I just saw the footage. Some of the buildings in the video do no look up to date with Shanghai's industrialism.

Yes, there is a semi-pro league in Japanland (not in China, though), but what's the first thing you think of when you hear American Football? Baseball is a lot more popular in Japan anyways, hence the anime having a baseball episode or whatever back in the day.

It's true that football is a big part of our culture. In addition to that, the football player appears to be African (american maybe) which it has been stated numerous times, that race isn't very prominent at all in Asia. So I'd say, NYC is the most likely candidate for Isshu's real world counterpart for the time being.

 

[rocky505]

It's "American Football" because it's the American's version of football (or soccer). Moving on.
I just saw the footage. Some of the buildings in the video do no look up to date with Shanghai's industrialism.

Thank you for telling me. Finally someone nice enough to tell me. IMO Shanghai looks WAY too futuristic for Hiun City,

Spoiler:

 

[Bloothump]

Thank you for telling me. Finally someone nice enough to tell me. IMO Shanghai looks WAY too futuristic for Hiun City,

Spoiler:

I agree. Asia as a whole has more technologically advanced buildings, and in the footage I saw a couple brick ones.

 

[rocky505]

Also about the AMERICAN football player. Why on earth would he be in Shanghai? I looked up American Football in China/Shanghai and nothing showed up but soccer. *Stabs wooden steak into Shanghai* Your outta here!

 

[GFA]

C'mon it has a friggin subway.

That was incredibly stupid. Tokyo has a subway, London has a subway, LA has a subway, Berlin (I think) has a subway.

I wasn't arguing I was just saying how can it be American Football if it is not in North America. You take things WAY too seriously

Because American Football is just a name of a sport. Theirs an American Football League in freaking Italy They'd call it Football, if you know, it hadn't already been taken by a game that actually uses your feat ... What's it called ... Soccer?

 

[Gymnotide]

Reposting this for the sake of ending this useless football chat.

For the hundredth time: Architecture, nor any other characteristic of the land, not limited to the appearance of people, types of resident Pokemon, items, landmarks, or structures, are relevant to the discussion. This discussion is 100% based on the shape of the region itself. The location of the cities may be of importance to the reference (as seen in prior generations), though it is unlikely now to have any conclusive evidence. Moreover, the landmass we know now is merely concept art and does not reflect any real-life forms as far as the little research we have done can conclude.

- - - - - - - - - - -

You do realize it's a joke right?

Anyways, I have 15 posts now, so here's my write up that I wanted to add a few posts back.

If we're going on the basis of Shape, then you should look at this.

Spoiler:

Here we have an image of Shanghai superimposed over that of Isshu... Apart from the size of each image, it's extremely similar. Lake in the north, two rivers, the left one opening up wider than the right one, six bridges somewhat mountainous terrain on both sides. Two significant islands in the left bay, and then also the myriad of islands in the right bay.

Spoiler:

Now here is New York superimposed over Isshu. Similar, and yet not similar. There is a lake in the northern part, and the bridges match up. But the left river does not open up so wide, and the right one is not even a river at all, but the Long Island Sound, which goes into the Atlantic Ocean.

Spoiler:

Now I want to draw your attention to three places, one of which I mentioned before. The red circle is over Long Island, which goes significantly past the ferry harbour. Look at the point where Hiun city is on the Isshu map. The landmass to the right of Hiun city does not go further than Hiun city, which is the furthest point that we can make out on the map. See that green circle? There's more bridges there than on the Isshu Map, and I'm not even including the Brooklyn Battery Tunnel. Though it's not like Isshu would need that, seeing as the landmass that might represent Long Island does not go past Hiun city. Now see that yellow circle? look at how the mouth of it opens up on the Isshu map. It does not match in the same way that Shanghai matches to Isshu.

So if we're only going by the shape of the geography, then Isshu represents Shanghai more than it does New York.

Wait, you can't even say that, since your whole argument is based on dissimilarities with New York. Shanghai isn't even the right shape. It's a triangle. If you argue that New York's shape isn't right, then neither is Shanghai's and the only thing we can conclude is that it's NEITHER. That's right. Neither. Now, I'm fine with it being neither of them, but basing your argument on the fact that it could possibly be one of two things and that if it's not one, then it has to be the other is faulty. In addition, your argument greatly fails in and of itself.

And for your information, the East River is NOT the Long Island Sound. It's a strait that runs FROM the Long Island Sound into the Atlantic Ocean.

 

[GFA]

I dont see why it cant be, you know, based off of both Shanghai and New York. Their doesnt seem to be a huge (Geographic) difference.

 

[Bloothump]

I think that the people and buildings contribute to the argument. They might not have in previous generations, because every region so far has been based off of a different part of the same country. It would get boring if they never switched it up. But now we're in an entirely new situation, so I believe most of what GF has done in the past is irrelevant.

 

[WarpstarX]

Man this thread has been going on for sixteen pages every other region was based on a SPECIFIC shape saying it's based on two places at once is completely missing the point of the argument discussion.