"Never Hit a Girl"

[pokerulerr]

it is an unexamined belief that man should not hit women but women CAN hit men. women are obviously weaker in physical statue. women cannot take hits from a man because that will be abuse. men can take a slap from a women (although it may be painful temporarily)

 

[Teh Blazer]

I wouldn't call it a punch, just a knuckle-touch that missed.
Same with a slap, just a high-five that missed.

In all honesty, girls abuse their right for men to be "kind". After they punch and kick you, they expect for you to not fight back. When you do hit the slightest back, they make a big deal about it and use their "he hit me" voice on a higher authority. Especially the tom boys, they are the most dangerous.

 

[poopnoodle]

I wouldn't call it a punch, just a knuckle-touch that missed.
Same with a slap, just a high-five that missed.

In all honesty, girls abuse their right for men to be "kind". After they punch and kick you, they expect for you to not fight back. When you do hit the slightest back, they make a big deal about it and use their "he hit me" voice on a higher authority. Especially the tom boys, they are the most dangerous.

if we're going to speak in generalizations here, women are not typically violent by nature while men have shown to be more prone to that sort of behavior, and the women i know wouldn't stoop down to violent behavior and certainly wouldn't stoop down to playing off the "damsel-in-distress" facade. that said, i'm not sure what you're basing your generalization on.

consider that perhaps everyone should learn to act/react sensibly instead of destructively.

 

[E-114]

Its a natural reflex to hurt someone who's hurting you so yeah I think I would hit a girl if they drew first blood.

Not a honorific thing to do (Like aiming below the belt), but sometimes we do it because we can't help it if our brains reaction makes us.

 

[Dawn]

As in: if a guy pisses you off enough, you have full right to give him a hard punch in the stomach. If a girl pisses you off enough, however, you better not lay a finger on her or else you're goin to prison.

In the real world, there's this thing called equivalent force as opposed to excessive force and it applies to everyone of every gender race ethnicity whatever. The real world is not high school. If you give that guy a hard punch in the stomach, welcome to jail. No amount of "him pissing you off" is going to justify that in court. Absolutely no amount. It's just excessive force, no matter how you twist it.

Errm... Was that sarcasm? (Because I've never been complimented on my forum posts before, so... Forgive the paranoia)

Noooope. Genuine compliment right there. I normally have to go to comic websites to find stuff that good.

Its a natural reflex to hurt someone who's hurting you so yeah I think I would hit a girl if they drew first blood.

Not a honorific thing to do (Like aiming below the belt), but sometimes we do it because we can't help it if our brains reaction makes us.

Well as you grow up you need to be able to control urges like that. There are very edgy rules regarding what you can and cannot do to defend yourself. When you hit someone as an adult, and you try to say that you couldn't help yourself, it just won't fly. I'm sorry to say but that's how it works. Now, if hitting her somehow protected you from harm that would be a bit more plausible.

 

[avolonsaber]

"Equal"

Girls deserve a certain respect from us, I'm not sure why, but they do. I'll be there first person to tell you if you aren't treating a lady right, but not hitting girls is just silly in my book. I'm not condoning beating a girl(s), or saying they all deserve to get hit. What I'm saying is if I got into a fight or whatever with a girl and she hit what I considered to be "hard", what I though hurt and would hurt bad if it kept happening, only then would I hit back. I wouldn't even hit back with full force, just enough to get the "stop hitting me" message across that didn't work coming from my mouth. As for the whole slapping thing, I hate that, ha-ha. Almost any girl can get away with getting a little flustered and slapping a guy silly. I don't know why this is either, but its true. I've been slapped in the face before and all you can do is ask "why did you do that?" and rub your cheek. People talk about how guys and girls are "equal". If that was really the case girls wouldn't have that "certain respect". If it was "equal" we'd wrestle around with our girlfriends like we do our guy friends, laugh when/encourage they fart, and probably sock them in the arms, and thighs for no reason like when buddies pal-around. As degrading or sexist as it might sound, girls are girls, you have to be nicer to them then you do guys. Why? I think because you're just supposed to. Oops, got a little of topic there. Back to point; I think outwardly just beating, hitting, or harming a girl is wrong, but very rarely hitting back, and hitting back with force is acceptable.

 

[Spherical Ice]

How about "never hit anyone"?

Seems a lot more "gentlemenly" or whatever.

 

[Shanghai Alice]

In the real world, there's this thing called equivalent force as opposed to excessive force and it applies to everyone of every gender race ethnicity whatever. The real world is not high school. If you give that guy a hard punch in the stomach, welcome to jail. No amount of "him pissing you off" is going to justify that in court. Absolutely no amount. It's just excessive force, no matter how you twist it.

Not trying to disagree with you, and I actually do, but...

In the real world, we also have lawyers, special interest groups, dirty politics, and so many things that are wrong with "justice" that it'd take too long to list them all (Not that this means that any system of justice is inherently bad, but... The only problem with criminal justice systems is the fact that they're managed by humans. Which is also the greatest strength). If a woman hits a man, she can simply make up a BS claim, such as defending herself from sexual assault.

Unless the man has witnesses, his butt is going to jail. And the rest of him, too.


And, according to TVTropes (...I know...), in Spain, a husband beater, by law, gets half as many years as a wife beater. WTF.

Grah. That's more of a double-standardy post, but still.

Noooope. Genuine compliment right there. I normally have to go to comic websites to find stuff that good.

Cartoon characters are usually sane. Therefore, I have the advantage.

How about "never hit anyone"?

Seems a lot more "gentlemenly" or whatever.

Because sometimes it's necessary to kill each other like civilized men.

But in all seriousness, I'm not saying violence is the only way, but...

In this world, not everyone's a pacifist by default, as sad as it is.

 

[KanadeTenshi]

Not trying to disagree with you, and I actually do, but...

In the real world, we also have lawyers, special interest groups, dirty politics, and so many things that are wrong with "justice" that it'd take too long to list them all (Not that this means that any system of justice is inherently bad, but... The only problem with criminal justice systems is the fact that they're managed by humans. Which is also the greatest strength). If a woman hits a man, she can simply make up a BS claim, such as defending herself from sexual assault.

Unless the man has witnesses, his butt is going to jail. And the rest of him, too.


And, according to TVTropes (...I know...), in Spain, a husband beater, by law, gets half as many years as a wife beater. WTF.

Grah. That's more of a double-standardy post, but still.



Cartoon characters are usually sane. Therefore, I have the advantage.





Because sometimes it's necessary to kill each other like civilized men.

But in all seriousness, I'm not saying violence is the only way, but...

In this world, not everyone's a pacifist by default, as sad as it is.

I don't really think that a woman can just go and claim sexual assault like that.. does the woman have any witnesses? Also, unless said woman is dumb, she wouldn't even have a reason to hit him in the first place.

I don't even know how this thread got to here.. "never hit a girl" is just some idiotic thing people made up. Now we talk about lawyers and laws. And yes, I would kick a girl's butt depending on what she does. This saying is also completely situational. And if you wholeheartly agree with this, agree with "never hit a guy" too. (Not saying that they're equal, "boys have a penis girls have a vagina". No need to thank me for the tip)

 

[Dawn]

In the real world, we also have lawyers, special interest groups, dirty politics, and so many things that are wrong with "justice" that it'd take too long to list them all (Not that this means that any system of justice is inherently bad, but... The only problem with criminal justice systems is the fact that they're managed by humans. Which is also the greatest strength). If a woman hits a man, she can simply make up a BS claim, such as defending herself from sexual assault.

Unless the man has witnesses, his butt is going to jail. And the rest of him, too.

A woman cannot do that. I'm sorry, but that's flat out a fantasy.

And, according to TVTropes (...I know...), in Spain, a husband beater, by law, gets half as many years as a wife beater. WTF.

Perhaps that would be better suited for a demographic more local to Spain. I'm sorry to say that gender roles are a natural thing, and were probably originally created as more of a luxury than an unnecessary, back in the day when we were just starting to get civilized. Things were different. Gender roles were more relevant. That being said, those same gender roles are in desperate need of getting with the times, being the problem. The times, however, are definitely not "gender equality" and hopefully will never be. (As that would be highly inappropriate.) That being said, it's only logical that some places are not as "updated" as others and I don't find other places particularly relevant. No offense.

Because sometimes it's necessary to kill each other like civilized men.

But in all seriousness, I'm not saying violence is the only way, but...

In this world, not everyone's a pacifist by default, as sad as it is.

Well, quite frankly I don't respect the nature of the non-pacifists. If people want to fight unprofessionally, they can drop all moral and ethic arguments and go to war. Murder each other. That's how stupid and simple physical conflict like that comes down to. Sure, it's necessary. It's an ugly necessity, but it is, but that doesn't mean it shouldn't be looked down upon / avoided whenever possible

 

[FreakyLocz14]

A woman is perfectly capable of beating up a man, and men can and are victims of domestic violence.

My opinion is: You shouldn't be hitting anybody, regardless of gender.

 

[Prometheus]

I'll grab her arms and calm her down.

 

[Rich Boy Rob]

The times, however, are definitely not "gender equality" and hopefully will never be. (As that would be highly inappropriate).

Oh really? What do you suppose would be wrong with all genders being equal in the world (note: in this context equal =/= the same).

 

[Dawn]

Oh really? What do you suppose would be wrong with all genders being equal in the world (note: in this context equal =/= the same).

I use equal with it's intended definition, being the same. I don't acknowledge any other definition. You'll forgive me if I mock the misnomer, which I find incredibly misleading.

At that, I'm sure it's quite obvious why I find the idea of both genders being the same ridiculous.

 

[Rucario]

The people from that Jersey Shore show could really learn from this... I don't believe in hitting a girl for no reason, but if I had to for self-defense reasons, I would.

 

[Shanghai Alice]

*Facepalm*

I meant I actually agree with you. Wording fail.

A woman cannot do that. I'm sorry, but that's flat out a fantasy.

Okay, maybe she can't do it just because she feels like it, but...

It has, in fact, happened. There have been cases (Those four Duke students from a few years ago... Gah, must find the link...) of women screaming sexual harassment/assault/rape for their own nefarious ends.

Perhaps that would be better suited for a demographic more local to Spain. I'm sorry to say that gender roles are a natural thing, and were probably originally created as more of a luxury than an unnecessary, back in the day when we were just starting to get civilized. Things were different. Gender roles were more relevant. That being said, those same gender roles are in desperate need of getting with the times, being the problem. The times, however, are definitely not "gender equality" and hopefully will never be. (As that would be highly inappropriate.) That being said, it's only logical that some places are not as "updated" as others and I don't find other places particularly relevant. No offense.

True, I was just listing an example.

However, Spain is a modern Western European country. Just because it's on another continent doesn't mean it's not relevant. After all, many argument have "In Foreign Country X, they have Y..."

Well, quite frankly I don't respect the nature of the non-pacifists. If people want to fight unprofessionally, they can drop all moral and ethic arguments and go to war. Murder each other. That's how stupid and simple physical conflict like that comes down to. Sure, it's necessary. It's an ugly necessity, but it is, but that doesn't mean it shouldn't be looked down upon / avoided whenever possible

I'm not saying I support the "Massacre first, ask questions later" option. I'm saying that waiting for someone to kill you before you start striking back is kind of idiotic.

Maybe it'd be more accurate to say I support self-defense, not brutal aggression?

 

[Marowak10]

For me, I just think we shouldn't because depending on the age it would be hard to hit somewhere where it hurts.
EDIT: Also, Darwinism.

 

[Sixto]

A man is physically stronger than a woman. I don't think a man should ever lay a hand on a woman. The only exception, I think, is if it's life-threatening.

Holding her back is a different story.

 

[Dawn]

It has, in fact, happened. There have been cases (Those four Duke students from a few years ago... Gah, must find the link...) of women screaming sexual harassment/assault/rape for their own nefarious ends.

Aaaah... but you have to realize that men can do similar things. There are plenty of things like this. This is more of a weakness of the law itself and the human race than of gender equality equal rights/opportunity.

I mean, no matter what we do there will always be people praying on our inability to make perfect decisions and judgements, even in court.

Maybe it'd be more accurate to say I support self-defense, not brutal aggression?

That's good, however I'd urge you to study the laws revolving around self-defense. It's all very iffy, situational, and restricted. I guess you could say the law right now is trying to make as little victims as possible, so that people can't abuse the laws revolving self defense to do things that really shouldn't qualify as self defense.

 

[Rich Boy Rob]

I use equal with it's intended definition, being the same. I don't acknowledge any other definition. You'll forgive me if I mock the misnomer, which I find incredibly misleading.

At that, I'm sure it's quite obvious why I find the idea of both genders being the same ridiculous.

Okay then, what is the word you would use in place of where I used "equal".
To put it another way; what would you say feminism advocates?

Aaaah... but you have to realize that men can do similar things. There are plenty of things like this. This is more of a weakness of the law itself and the human race than of gender equality.

So what is the difference of you using the word equality in this context then?