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    October 28th would be a nightmare for me; mother would insist on buying it for me for my birthday and I'd have to wait another week and a bit before I got my hands on my copy...although I'd make her wait until her birthday (November 24th) if she did that to me, so vengeance would be mine in the end. xD
     

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    October 28th would be a nightmare for me; mother would insist on buying it for me for my birthday and I'd have to wait another week and a bit before I got my hands on my copy...although I'd make her wait until her birthday (November 24th) if she did that to me, so vengeance would be mine in the end. xD

    If I were a parent I would just give my kids an early birthday gift if what they wanted came out a week earlier (if I knew they wanted it) than their birthday xD. In exchange I'll expect early birthday gifts too {XD}

    I'll be fine with October 28... it actually makes the waiting period less than 8 months from the day they announced it (now 7 months and 26 days). That's shorter than XY's wait of 9 months and four days.
     

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    If I were a parent I would just give my kids an early birthday gift if what they wanted came out a week earlier (if I knew they wanted it) than their birthday xD. In exchange I'll expect early birthday gifts too {XD}

    I'll be fine with October 28... it actually makes the waiting period less than 8 months from the day they announced it (now 7 months and 26 days). That's shorter than XY's wait of 9 months and four days.
    Haha, no chance; I had to wait almost a month for Disgaea 5 last year for my birthday and I wanted that desperately. My mother delights in my suffering sometimes. xD
    I'll just "accidentally" forget to mention it.

    I half expect the wait to be longer actually, because if they're going to do a worldwide release - as they damn well better - it's going to take them longer to get the Chinese translation up together...possibly. It's very difficult to know how they're doing with it when they don't give us progress updates like a lot of developers like to do. Hell, Nintendo won't give us anything but logos.
     

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    Haha, no chance; I had to wait almost a month for Disgaea 5 last year for my birthday and I wanted that desperately. My mother delights in my suffering sometimes. xD
    I'll just "accidentally" forget to mention it.

    I half expect the wait to be longer actually, because if they're going to do a worldwide release - as they damn well better - it's going to take them longer to get the Chinese translation up together...possibly. It's very difficult to know how they're doing with it when they don't give us progress updates like a lot of developers like to do. Hell, Nintendo won't give us anything but logos.

    They took a year off last year, so I think that they most likely spent that on the Chinese translation plus the other stuff.

    They did do the name thing with OrAs, the following week we got a little tease of the graphics to expect, but nothing worth mentioning...
    Speaking of OrAS, we saw those games out in six months, and it was a WW release, kind of...
     
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    They took a year off last year, so I think that they most likely spent that on the Chinese translation plus the other stuff.

    I do kinda speculate 2015 was mainly spent on Chinese translations, and given how advanced the models look (as shown in that wire shot of the new bird Pokemon) I could imagine that it would have taken a little over a year to make it look good.
     

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    They took a year off last year, so I think that they most likely spent that on the Chinese translation plus the other stuff.

    They did do the name thing with OrAs, the following week we got a little tease of the graphics to expect, but nothing worth mentioning...
    Speaking of OrAS, we saw those games out in six months, and it was a WW release, kind of...
    That's a definite possibility. They no doubt wanted to save the announcement for the 20th Anniversary, so it's not surprising it was kept under wraps for so long if that is the case and they spent most of last year working on the translations. I'd like to think that Game Freak are that efficient, but...well, we'll see I suppose. That they only showed bare bones concept art and design makes me wonder just how far they are with it, as it implies they're not very far along at all, but then they'd have to work very quickly to get it out by year's end if they were only that far along, and that would lead to the question of what on earth they were doing all last year.

    Hmph. I for one didn't appreciate the utterly unjustified and ridiculous extra week's wait. Sure, I've had worse, but there was absolutely no need for it, especially after XY were worldwide releases. Let's just hope they get their act together for these ones. I'd be willing to wait longer if it meant I got them at the same time as everyone else.
     
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    Hmph. I for one didn't appreciate the utterly unjustified and ridiculous extra week's wait. Sure, I've had worse, but there was absolutely no need for it, especially after XY were worldwide releases. Let's just hope they get their act together for these ones. I'd be willing to wait longer if it meant I got them at the same time as everyone else.

    I really felt sorry for Europeans who had to wait for ORAS a week later than everyone else, especially because I know the downsides of having to wait longer, which is having to avoid the internet if you don't want tons of spoilers thrown in your face.

    Heck, me along with not just Europeans but also my fellow Australian cohorts had to wait much longer for Super Mystery Dungeon (the US got it in December 2015, and we had to wait until mid-February 2016) so I fell victim to spoilers. Australia also had to wait the longest for Black & White, we got the game four days after the US, which in turn got it two days after Europe, and that meant we Australians got hit hardest by the gameplay spoilers. I even recall Australia was last when it came to Red & Blue as well, and I mean the original release and not the VC download.
     

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    I really felt sorry for Europeans who had to wait for ORAS a week later than everyone else, especially because I know the downsides of having to wait longer, which is having to avoid the internet if you don't want tons of spoilers thrown in your face.

    Heck, me along with not just Europeans but also my fellow Australian cohorts had to wait much longer for Super Mystery Dungeon (the US got it in December 2015, and we had to wait until mid-February 2016) so I fell victim to spoilers. Australia also had to wait the longest for Black & White, we got the game four days after the US, which in turn got it two days after Europe, and that meant we Australians got hit hardest by the gameplay spoilers. I even recall Australia was last when it came to Red & Blue as well, and I mean the original release and not the VC download.
    Yeah, Australia frequently gets hit harder than EU territories when it comes to video game releases, and it's rather unjust when companies demonstrate that they're capable of worldwide releases. It sets a standard that they really should try to uphold. There are often extenuating circumstances surrounding delays between regions, which is fair enough, because sometimes they are unavoidable. But if they can be gotten around then they should be, and it's when they're not that annoys me, personally. There can be no valid excuse for delays between Pokemon release dates now, as Nintendo have proven they can pull off a simultaneous release with X and Y. The Super Mystery Dungeon delay was inexcusable.

    I think a possible delay between release dates on Sun and Moon is going to gnaw away at me and plenty of others before the year is through and we have concrete release dates. They've implied they've got a worldwide release planned, which is great, but all manner of things can go wrong between now and then and there isn't really anything we can do about it. It's quite frustrating on many levels.
     
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    I agree, Super Mystery Dungeon's huge delay to EU/AU was inexcusable. But knowing main series games before XY, most of the international releases went to the US first, Australia in the middle, and Europe being last.
     

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    Yeah, historically Pokemon games have never had international releases, which makes me wonder if XY set a new precedent and ORAS was just a last-minute screw up (it can't be because of XY leaks, because leaks in Canada were significantly worse than they were in EU territories) or if they were a one-off and Nintendo means to continue as it always has - poorly.

    Obviously Nintendo aren't the only perpetrators of this - god, practically every Japanese developer does this, a lot of Western developers do as well, and Atlus in particular are terrible at getting their games out outside of the States on-time - but it's just disappointing that they can't sort themselves out...especially with their consoles being region locked.
     

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    That's a definite possibility. They no doubt wanted to save the announcement for the 20th Anniversary, so it's not surprising it was kept under wraps for so long if that is the case and they spent most of last year working on the translations. I'd like to think that Game Freak are that efficient, but...well, we'll see I suppose. That they only showed bare bones concept art and design makes me wonder just how far they are with it, as it implies they're not very far along at all, but then they'd have to work very quickly to get it out by year's end if they were only that far along, and that would lead to the question of what on earth they were doing all last year.

    Hmph. I for one didn't appreciate the utterly unjustified and ridiculous extra week's wait. Sure, I've had worse, but there was absolutely no need for it, especially after XY were worldwide releases. Let's just hope they get their act together for these ones. I'd be willing to wait longer if it meant I got them at the same time as everyone else.
    I take refugee in the memories of OrAs only having had a small trailer shown a week or so after they only showed the logos. It had originally given me the impression they weren't far at all, but it came out six months and a few days later :).
     

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    I take refugee in the memories of OrAs only having had a small trailer shown a week or so after they only showed the logos. It had originally given me the impression they weren't far at all, but it came out six months and a few days later :).
    Can we really put remakes in the same sort of time frame as we can an all-new game in the franchise, though? I suppose it's difficult to know without any trailers just yet, but early first impressions indicate that they may have made some upgrades to the graphics, on top of building a brand new region from scratch, adding in new Pokemon and everything associated with those...and adding two additional languages on top of that, giving them more than the standard workload for brand new games. There is simply more to do, and when we don't know how long they've been working on it...

    ...that said, they've got at least nine months to get everything done if they're going to meet the 2016 release date, so I guess it's plausible.
     

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    Can we really put remakes in the same sort of time frame as we can an all-new game in the franchise, though? I suppose it's difficult to know without any trailers just yet, but early first impressions indicate that they may have made some upgrades to the graphics, on top of building a brand new region from scratch, adding in new Pokemon and everything associated with those...and adding two additional languages on top of that, giving them more than the standard workload for brand new games. There is simply more to do, and when we don't know how long they've been working on it...

    ...that said, they've got at least nine months to get everything done if they're going to meet the 2016 release date, so I guess it's plausible.
    Hmm, Masuda kind of hinted that he was working on something. In an interview after OrAs he said he had some "big ideas" for the future of the franchise. The "all comes together" at the end of the reveal trailer of SM makes me think that he meant this all along. So, he might've been working on this after XY were done, especially since another team worked on OrAs... Plus they had begun work on BW shortly after DP irc, and same for XY shortly after BW were out. So, they might've been working on this for three years now...
     
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    Spending three years on work towards Sun & Moon must be a sign that the game's sure to be good. The effort is usually always worth it when you notice.
     

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    Spending three years on work towards Sun & Moon must be a sign that the game's sure to be good. The effort is usually always worth it when you notice.
    XY weren't that good (had 3 years too), but that might be attributed to the fact that it was on a new system. Wasn't it rumored that GF had a hard time making a 3DS game? I faintly recall such a rumor...
     
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    XY weren't that good (had 3 years too), but that might be attributed to the fact that it was on a new system. Wasn't it rumored that GF had a hard time making a 3DS game? I faintly recall such a rumor...

    Let's say XY was the testing ground, so maybe SM will be better. But I never heard anything about Game Freak actually struggling with making 3DS games.
     

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    A longer development period rarely translates to a better quality product, at least in my experience...it's one of the reasons I'm rather skeptical of Final Fantasy XV, amongst others. But that aside, I would be inclined to say that Sun and Moon will probably be of better quality than previous 3DS titles, if only because they've had the opportunity to build games on the hardware and, regardless of what your favourite game is, that the quality has improved with each gen from a technical standpoint is undeniable. I wouldn't know about Game Freak struggling to make 3DS titles, although I would have thought if that was the case it would have been fairly big news...Pokemon sells Nintendo handhelds, after all.
     
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    December 3/10/17/24/31

    These are the only options, actually. Because "winter" in Japan starts in December 1st, not in november.
     

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    November is a safe bet because it needs to be out before the first week of December in order to be one of the nominees for best handheld/mobile game at the Video Game Awards. Xenoblade Chronicles X missed the boat last year because it was released on the day after the VGA ended, so I don't want the same to happen to Sun and Moon if they have a December release.
     

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    I think they just inadvertently hinted at the earliest a November release date with the Legendary Golems distributions for Pokemon Bank, which according to Serebii is supposed to last until October. These are only supposed to be for X, Y, and ORAS. So it seems we got until October 31st to play around a little more with Gen 6.
     
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