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Yeah sure, no problem... Thanks!

Hi! You have an updated sprite hub right? Can you PM me that? Thanks!

Thanks!

I see... Anyway, I just need your Gmail account (I don't care if it's dummy account or not, as long as it can be used for document editing)... Thanks!

You didn't receive the PM?

I see, I hope you can read it before Christmas... It won't take too much time and are important details...

No, but if you want to, then I would be more grateful... Though we will focus with the sprites to be featured and proper credits first... By the way, have you read my PM?

Not really... We will just compile credits and fix palette limits or normal and shiny color inconsistencies...

Thanks a lot! That's actually the reason why I need to temporarily close the thread and asking for you and haimon_99's (for the credits) help... I don't really have much time right now (since around October due to work-related errands and internet problems) to post one-by-one which sprites are accepted or not, especially with so many modifications/improvements with the unaccepted (both to-be-accepted and not-to-be-accepted ones) sprites... By the first day of 2017, we should have a better repository since I'll be having a week-long vacation this coming week...

Hello! Thanks for your contributions in the Gen. 7 sprite repository thread... I know it's too much to ask right now but can you lend me a hand again? It's about the thread's organization... I'll send you a PM if you're okay... Thanks a lot!

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sorry about the late reply! here you go: https://www.dropbox.com/s/7tcoi01feotvq1e/gymleaders.txt?dl=0

(note: samurai is codeword for a fakemon that was added. it's not just called samurai lol)

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On a random note, men have standards, too, but they're less perceived than those of women due to media.

Men are also under scrutiny for weight, just like women are.

Female objectification in the media is so potent that people forget that it happens to men, too, albeit not as often. I hate those half-naked man cologne commercials, or even charity calendars of half-naked firemen, officers, rowers, etc. It's the same kind of wandering lust, and it's icky and inappropriate. It's not as potent as female objectification, but it does exist. I think it's more acceptable because men have always held power and women haven't, so women feel more victimized and feel disrespected easier. Men are always portrayed as wanting attention, wanting to be buff and show it off ("sun's out, guns out"), so women just assume they're doing them a favour or giving flattery. Men, on the other hand, see naked women and typically make comments that aren't flattering, but are instead demeaning and equating a woman to sexual objects.

It's complicated.

I was just reading something on some other person's VM page XD and thought I would support some of the stuff you were saying / attempting to say that was being misunderstood.

I don't understand where you're coming from when you say that objectification and discrimination of men is considered ok in society: it isn't. I don't know where you get that idea from.

The difference is also in the portrayal. When women are objectified the difference is that a substantial amount of the men looking at the objectification do so in a way that degrades the model. Male objectification is typically "tongue-in-cheek", creating an obviously outrageous fantasy. Even so, there are lots of critics of male objectification.

"I never said only women expect a man to have a stolid personality. Everyone expects that." No, they don't actually. I don't, no one I know "expects" men to fit a mould.

"...but it's acceptable to judge them for this?" No, and I don't understand where you are getting these parallels from.

I would love you to provide some evidence to show that men are openly judged and that no one cares.

You said: "Would it be less sexist if women were discriminated against by other women." The wording of my response probably could have been better but my original comment on this point still stands.

"People can freely say "oh that guy is so ugly he needs to workout" etc. with no consequences."

That might be somewhat accurate, only because fat men are more acceptable in society than fat women. Hence the intent behind the statements is much different. Fat women are stigmatised more than fat men.

"Men are objectified as much as women, but women have made it impossible for their objectification to be okay, which is unfair because men aren't just a ripped body or hot face."

That is not true, women are still objectified all the time. Male objectification happens, but definitely not more than of women. Have you seen lingerie football? What about mud wrestling? Wet t-shirt competitions? Scantily clad cheer leaders (note that male cheerleaders wear more clothing)? Girls in skimpy clothes to wave checkered flags at racing events (I can't think of what they're called atm)?

Also, look at surfing advertisements with women in them and compare it to surfing advertisements with men in them. There is a massive difference in the way they decide to portray the female surfer vs. the man.

On the topic of objectification of women in surfing: here and here. This is a problem with women in sport in general.

"Personality-wise, men are expected to be stolid without too much of an outgoing personality, and they're also expected to be calm constantly and to never show sadness and to be dependable and just tons of other stuff that isn't expected of women."

To be clear, it definitely isn't women who are expecting this of men.

"I think it's ridiculous that I can't act the way I am and have it be accepted as okay and not unusual just because it's not the expected behavior of a guy, when girls are given all the freedom they want to be whomever they are without acceptable judgement."

That is ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥. Women get judged just as much as men. We play a videogame online and get harassed, abused and dismissed by men because 'girls don't play video games'.

Sorry to not have replied to this until now (I didn't check my messages at all). I think that our differences of opinion may be due to specific interpretations of the word "sexism". I generally view it as relating to oppression of one gender by the other. As such I fail to recognise cases where men suffer from this.

That being said, I have an open mind and could be persuaded otherwise. Currently I have not seen any information which convinces me. However, I am interested to know what your personal experiences have been if you're willing to share.

To your comment about women being sexist to other women, no, I don't think that is a thing. As an example, thinking of sexism in the past, say the 1950s and earlier, when women were expected to have no career after marriage, this expectation was also adopted by women themselves and they expected it of their peers (therefore women oppressing women). However, the idea that that was the correct behaviour would have been due to the overarching expectation of society as controlled by men. I don't think women really decided it for themselves.

Eeeh she's not like really bad, she's just vague and prefers you to find out the exercises and stuff, but she should still give us singing lessons tbh.

I've actually been working on my falsetto for the past few days. I get too scared to use it tho lol.

Oh that sounds weird?? You should have at least some sort of head voice, regardless if it's bad lol

My tutor isn't like a private singing tutor, she's my college tutor who happens to be a singing teacher so she teaches our singing units but she's not very good tbh.

Nah I still consider my falsetto to be weak, but no one's heard it before lol. All the songs I've sung in front of people use the lower end of my range, and when I get nervous I can only sing in like 1 voice so my head voice goes bye bye, ahaha.