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  • Bisharp suffers from 4MSS there, I guess. You can have the power and support of Knock Off, the coverage of Brick Break, the reliability of Night Slash, Pursuit, etc etc
    Expert Belt is also a good item for Greninja. Though I have to disagree with U-Turn. Even with STAB, you're only going to do a little damage, and it's really not worth it when another coverage move will serve you better. The point of U-Turn and Volt switch is to do somewhat significant damage while switching in a counter, or for the user to be slower so it can safely bring in a teammate. Pokemon like Scizor or Rotom-Wash are better users of U-Turn/Volt Switch. Also, moves like Hydro Cannon are terrible because that recharge turn is just asking for your Pokemon to get KO'd or gives the opponent a free turn to set up/switch. If you really don't like Hydro Pump's 80% accuracy, Surf or Scald are good alternatives.

    That's what I think, anyway.
    With Bisharp's typing, it can switch in almost for free a lot, setting up a Sub the following turn. It also helps set up against Pokemon that commonly carry status moves, too.
    Um, well see the problem with that is, while MP is base 40, it gets stab from fighting types - and will hit super effective - bumping it from 40->60->120. Plus, lotssss of common fighting types get buffs on it. Ie; technician brelooms Mach punch goes from 40->60->90->180 with stab technician and super. Conkeldurr hitmonchan and infernape get iron fist; making it 40->60->72->144 with stab iron fist super. And even disregarding those, Mach punches priority means Greninja won't be able to change type, and will be hit super with his low defense, absol or mega absol will at best get off a resisted sucker punch, then have Mach punch hit their very sad 60 base def, and bisharp... Well it's 4x weak :x
    All I have to say for your team so far, is beware mach punch. Your secondary fairy type covers that, but you should have a swift answer to things that are gonna try and run through you with a strong physical sweeper offensive.
    Don't mind me creeping on your VM convo with Euphoric, but Dark has a fair amount of anti-fairy options. Besides the glorious Bisharp, don't forget that Drapion and Skuntank are a thing. Skuntanks kinda meh but it gets stab sludge bomb. Although dat Fairy Sp Def. I personally rock the Bisharp or Drapion when I want anti-fairy and a dark type. Drapions got some nasty tricks too, it's fast, has decent defense, gets things like Knock Off, Swords Dance, and get this - it gets sniper, and stab on Night Slash and Cross Poison. I'll tell you right now - now Fairy that isn't also a steel type or Carbink appreciates a stab Sniper Cross Poison crit. I run that set on my drapion, holding a Scope Lens of course.
    Yeah, definitely go with Bisharp. A moveset of Iron Head/Sucker Punch/Sub/Swords Dance is pretty good, imo. And congrats on that egg!
    I'd use a Bisharp. Iron Head destroys Fairies. Both Klefki and Aromatisse can also learn Flash Cannon.
    This is one set for Greninja, if you need a suggestion:

    Greninja w/Life Orb
    Nature: Timid
    Ability: Protean
    EVs: 252 Sp.Attack, 252 Speed, 4 HP
    Moves: Hydro Pump, Ice Beam, Extrasensory, Dark Pulse/Grass Knot/Hidden Power Fire

    That's a pretty standard one.
    Ya gotta pick though. Unfortunately, I don't really have any advice for you on the matter either....
    Jeah some of those eggs were pretty old like last November/December old lul and I was a lazy breeder back then. I'd be content with 4v eggs but now I have enough resources to breed the ivs I want along with the egg moves if they're worth having. That's why that Whismur doesn't have any and that was recent ago. All it needs is scrappy and boomburst and you win

    An don't worry about it. I need more room in my boxes and getting rid of the eggs was the best way. Consider it my thanks to you. More than likely you'll get more of em next time you clone for me
    I don't think we need to start it over - I just think we should hold off any new entrants types being picked until everyone who's been there from the start picks their types.
    Whhhhaaaaaat I'm saying is, Normal I understand, because it was picked last. His/Her second pick though, may not be fair, since he/she wasn't originally anywhere on the list, so placing them at the bottom by default, is like placing them at the top for round 2, since it's literally first pick of all 18 types. Just for joining at the right time.
    But all types were available at the beginning in round 2. :x This means that anybody that joined at this point, would have free rain to pick any type before anybody regardless of battles played or won just for waiting until now to join. Idunno, I don't think this is something one person should decide, it should be brought up in the thread again and agreed upon by at least a few people.
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