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Old September 16th, 2012 (7:54 PM).
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    "We can't go on pretending day by day
    That someone, somehow will soon make a change..."

    So once again, my mind has started delving in the thoughts of somehow, someday changing the system so that nobody has to live on the streets and starve. Usually my mind gets restless and it becomes a nuisance, but after my current experiences I prefer my mind this way. xP For a long time I've felt emptiness, like my mind was numb or blocked, unable to think properly about anything and I just went through the whole day not caring about anything cause I wanted this block to be lifted. I think it might be stress symptoms? But anyway, I learned to love the way I think and I hope this trait of mine never goes away again. xD

    Going back to the topic. I've thought that perhaps we just have to work with the system and lift up lives one by one or something. But while you could probably help one life up, how would you lift them all? What system am I talking about? Money. To give you some background on my thoughts about money, here's something I wrote about two -almost three years ago:


    I've been thinking about this for a while, and I think it's about time I present you with those very thoughts.

    Why do we need money? Why do we work for money? Why do we kill for money? Why did we invent money?

    According to the answer of another person's question on Yahoo! the purpose of money is as follows:
    "Before money there was bartering and every transaction required a buyer and seller that wanted each others' goods or services. Also, they had to decide and agree what the items being exchanged were worth RELATIVE to each other and there wasn't anyway to divide certain transactions. (For example, maybe two farmers could agree that 4 chickens were worth a pig, but if the farmer only wanted 2 chickens he couldn't very well trade it for 1/2 a pig)

    Money provides a common scale for valuing everything. A means to enact a transaction even if only one party wants what the other has to offer, means for saving for future purchases and borrowing for large purchases. Money doesn't age, die, or grow stale as certain goods do."
    It may have seen like a good idea back then, but look at what it's done to us:

    We go to school to prepare for life, no, our human reality. Everyday we work, why? Cause we need money (which we created), which we need to survive in our own society.

    Why do we complicate ourselves with that? Why do we work for money? Why not remove money and work simply for improvement. So that at the end of the day nobody has to sleep on the streets on an empty stomach. In the same society we have created. But no, we all need a piece of paper to tell us we're doing a good job...

    "It's not just a piece of paper, it has gold; which has a lot of value."

    WRONG! It has "a lot of value" because we gave it that value, we gave it that much importance, so much that life seems to lose value. Who even told you that gold is to be used as a way to buy or accessorize ourselves? Those are human needs; perhaps, "artificial" needs, when we could probably use it for something much more significant.
    Is there even enough gold on this planet for a population that's constantly growing?

    I'm not saying, "let's go back to exchanging four chickens for a pig."
    In fact, stop right there; who said those animals belong to you? From every theory or religion that I've heard, all the other animals seem to have been here before the human race. They shared their habitat with us and look at what we do...
    Also, not only do the animals not belong to us, but the food which they provide and our planet as-well; we are claiming ownership of our resources.
    Black people or however you want to call them, they aren't the only victims of slavery. We've put the whole world under our dominion and made it our personal chef, our butler, our slave.

    Why are we so selfish?
    Why do we need to possess anything other than ourselves?
    Why do we always think about getting something in return for our services?
    I know we'd all love to live a luxurious life, where everyone does all the work and you barely lift a finger, but would you really live your life in such a way, knowing that right outside your door; there's probably another being, dying because he/she lacks green paper?

    I could guess what'll happen if we relinquished money:

    Nobody will want to work; or at-least, they'll work, but only enough for themselves. "Why should we give you something, which we worked so hard for?"
    You didn't really do anything. The apple in your hands was produced by a tree; the flesh on your plate came from another animal. All you did was rip it off.

    And did they ask for something in return? No. (Plus, the animal didn't have much of a choice, did it? xD)
    Lets leave the egoism and work for each other. Lets stop pretending the world belongs to you, because it doesn't; it belongs to everyone. Yes, including plants and animals.

    To be honest I am afraid of the thought; to remove money from our lives. Apparently we all fear change, because we have accustomed ourselves to this way of life. We've lived like this for centuries; therefore, we live like this cause it's the only reality we know of. But think of it this way; without change, we'd still be living in caves, no light, no means to travel across the world and experience different cultures. Time isn't waiting for us, so let's try and change with it.
    This is unchanged, it's exactly what I wrote. That's why you see the 'donkey corn dare' thing at the top. xD

    Anyway, as you can see, from what I understand about this system; for one person to have more money -another needs to have less, and frankly, this will never truly change. Someone will always have more than you and that's fine. Ying and Yang, Balance. But my goal is so nobody has to starve and live on streets. The problem is, I can't pursuit this ideal until I learn and confirm that the facts I think about the system are true and not just superstitions.

    So my question. How does the system work? Do we have enough money for EVERYONE? Think about it. Imagine everyone was working, not a single jobless soul. Would money be able to cover EVERYONE's needs? I'm speaking about the entire planet here. I understand there's this thing called 'inflation' which is caused by producing more money for some invalid reason or something.

    What is the government doing for the homeless? I assume they share SOME responsibility for their current situation? And please don't say "They're doing absolutely nothing/[insert **** here]" unless you KNOW this for a fact. I'm not looking for assumptions or opinions here. I've got plenty of those. I'm looking for facts that could turn my own opinions and beliefs into real fact.

    Explain to me in simple plain words, how does this system work? Where does the money come from? How do they decide the value of every dollar, peso, euro, -money.

    I THINK I made this pretty clear, so now I will propose my idea "Based on my knowledge of the system"

    Two words: Life Points.

    They are imaginary numbers. I don't know what's an effective way to implement this but I'll give you an idea for the heck of it; to help explain my views.

    Every living being has the right to live and have access to the necessary things in life such as a warm place to sleep, food, water, etc. These "Life Points" are imaginary numbers which are managed by little round devices (just to give you a shape). These round devices are indiscriminately distributed to every person -we can start with a single country I guess.

    With these Life Points, people can ONLY buy things that are NECESSARY. Such as a fixed amount of food, water, etc.

    People would have to use these Life Points wisely since they would only reset after a fixed amount of time which could be as long as days, weeks, months, perhaps even years. Since these are limited points and only give you your daily needs, people will still have an incentive for work and gain money to improve their given basic life form or just as insurance in case something went bad with their points.

    Wait, so you want to hand out meaningless imaginary points and buy with it?

    Money is just as meaningless as Life Points. We're the ones who gave money a purpose and meaning and we can do the same for these "Life Points", which will save many lives and improve life for everyone.

    I'm aware though that this needs work. There are many things this new system needs work on; like the fact that technology can be hacked and taken advantage of or some other complex political or commercial phenomenon I don't understand.

    Anyway, I think this is all I have for now. Please don't waste my time with "It'll never work." Tell me WHY it'll never work, and don't forget my goal here is to learn the absolute truth about the money system we have and whether this idea is even necessary. I'm not looking for consent. I'm not looking for someone to tell me, "good idea!" (although appreciated xD), I want facts so I can separate my own ideas as fact and superstition.

    Point out some conflicts you think the new system could have with other factors in life or ideas of your own to improve it. Again, I can't stress enough. Although I appreciate all your ideas, my priority and purpose of this thread are to gather facts.
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