6th Gen Evolution/Pre-evolution Speculation

seant123 said:

anybody else want to see a swellow evolution? i don't feel that evolution chain is completed for some reason, mainly because the other bird pokemon you can find at the start of a game (pidgey+starly) have a 3rd evolution and i think taillow needs one too.

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Noo, Swellow is my favorite Pokemon and I wouldn't like to see an evolution for it. Hoothoot and Noctowl are a two evolutionary stage regional bird too, so not all of them require three staged evolutions.

Suicune™ said:

Noo, Swellow is my favorite Pokemon and I wouldn't like to see an evolution for it. Hoothoot and Noctowl are a two evolutionary stage regional bird too, so not all of them require three staged evolutions.

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Ok i forgot about Noctowl but i still think Swellow should evolve, i just don't think its good enough, if its your favourite pokemon then you wouldn't have to evolve it, i personally just think it isnt strong enough as a two stage evolution, unlike noctowl which is part psychic.

seant123 said:

Ok i forgot about Noctowl but i still think Swellow should evolve, i just don't think its good enough, if its your favourite pokemon then you wouldn't have to evolve it, i personally just think it isnt strong enough as a two stage evolution, unlike noctowl which is part psychic.

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Noctowl is Normal/Flying, he isn't Psychic at all mate.

forget noctowl... fearow was the example someone should have pointed out.

I think Nocowl should evolve too but that's just me.
And yes Fearow could use an evolution, but it's like a secondary regional bird, just how some regions have two regional bugs (Weedle, and Caterpie, and Wumpel's evolutions) so maybe it won't receive an evolution just like the other two stage birds :(.

It would be really cool to see some 2nd gneration pokemon families expand, like Noctowl. I think that a Shuckle evolution might work (Though not sure how you could top its stats *coughdefensecough* ...). It could be a very large rock or boulder rather than a small rock and would be more tortoise-like with slightly better defined or somewhat solid legs than just a mass of tentacles in a rock.

One first generation pokemon I would love for them to come back to would be a full Kangaskhan family with a baby pre-evolution. Maybe rather than a new pokemon for a father, it could just be a gender difference like no pouch on its stomach. But at the very least a baby [Or maybe make the link to Cubone ;)]

I wanna see Corsola get a pre-evo and an evolutionary form like Roselia in Diamond/Pearl. I also wanna see Qwilfish, Mawile and Sableye get evolve stages. And maybe Tentacruel?...Da Tentacool-line, they live in pretty much every body of water around da pokemon world and u even see wild Tentacruel(s)...with da exception of Unova. >.>

I would like an Electrode evolution, my sig can show a bit why. But I guess GF would go totally on the other side, they could make him like a Master ball.

I'd like to see a Lapras evolution but I'm not really sure how it'd work..

Magmaruby and Aquasapphire said:

I think Nocowl should evolve too but that's just me.
And yes Fearow could use an evolution, but it's like a secondary regional bird, just how some regions have two regional bugs (Weedle, and Caterpie, and Wumpel's evolutions) so maybe it won't receive an evolution just like the other two stage birds :(.

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Yea the early pokemon of each gen are usually clones of previous ones in terms of data (same amount of stages with similar stats just shuffled around a bit).

So Starly/Pidove are clones of the 3-stage bird concept that Pidgey introduced,
while Hoothoot/Taillow/Wingull are clones of the 2-stage bird concept that Spearow introduced.
Each gen there is at least of of either.
gen 1=one of both - a 'Pidgey' and a 'Spearow',
gen 2=just second - a 'Spearow',
gen 3=two second - two 'Spearows'
gen 4=just first - a 'Pidgey'
gen 5=just first - a 'Pidgey'
and gen 6= at least the fourth 'Pidgey' (Fletchling is seen to have 3 stages in a pokedex screenshot)

These are 2 distinct leagues of birds, and the 2-stage ones are not meant to be compared to the 3-stage ones, and would probably end up stronger than them if they gained new evolutions since they are stronger than the middle stages.

Kerg said:

Noctowl is Normal/Flying, he isn't Psychic at all mate.

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Sorry "mate" but he still learns psychic moves like confusion and he can learn psychic via TM so even if he isn't a psychic type he still learns good psychic attacks, and he's a better pokemon to battle with than Swellow... which makes me think that swellow should evolve.

seant123 said:

Sorry "mate" but he still learns psychic moves like confusion and he can learn psychic via TM so even if he isn't a psychic type he still learns good psychic attacks, and he's a better pokemon to battle with than Swellow... which makes me think that swellow should evolve.

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Swellow is stronger than Noctowl. Heck with Guts its a bigger threat than Pidgeot, Fearow, Dodrio and Unfezant too.

All it needs is some type coverage... like a Fire move, so its not stopped by Steel types. And thats more likely to gain by other means than a new evolution.

MiTjA said:

Swellow is stronger than Noctowl. Heck with Guts its a bigger threat than Pidgeot, Fearow, Dodrio and Unfezant too.

All it needs is some type coverage... like a Fire move, so its not stopped by Steel types. And thats more likely to gain by other means than a new evolution.

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Agreed, and to be honest, I don't think giving Swellow an evolution is really something GameFreak might even have in mind right now. Though, that's a far reaching guess since no one really knows what GameFreak is ever thinking except GameFreak themselves. Point being, Swellow as it stands is one of the strongest regional birds to date, all it needs is better type coverage and newer moves are likely to fix that than an evolution as MiTjA so perfectly said.

Have to agree there. Staraptor outclasses it for power and type coverage, although Swellow's faster. Perhaps they'll introduce the next regional bird as the best of both worlds? Although I guess they don't want you too overpowered...

I doubt they'd actually due it as the Hitmon comparisons would be too much...but a joint pre-evolution for Throh and Sawk? They could have it half red, half blue and throw in an anti-racist message :)

Gotta be honest I'm looking forward to the day Raichu evolves into the first 4-stage evolutionary line :P

staraptor is the best regional bird imo its just so powerful, fair enough i was probably wrong about swellow but i still think an evolution would be cool

Swellow, when set up correctly can become the strongest regional Bird. Staraptor can be comparable but with the Guts Ability and moves like Facade, you can stack up an Attack of 403 accompanied with it's high 125 Speed.

Anyway, about Fletchling I definitely can see it becoming one of the stronger regional birds, we already know it can learn Flame Charge which is a first! It was also noted that Fletchling is known to be Fierce in battle using relentless attacks. Regardless I will be using it on my team for X as I do with all regional birds on my first play through.

isn't that more of a reason why Swellow shouldn't have an evolutionary form. It'll be a beast...I mean, unmatched. Well, unless gamefreak plans to drop its speed some; ya know, like what they did for Murkrow with Honchkrow...an add more HP or slightly more increased defensive stats? I dunno, man.

I also want to see Corsola evolve. It seems very underrated, same with Qwilfish...maybe make them version exclusives?

Maybe it's body upon evolution hardens and it becomes Water/Steel that way it wouldn't have much rivally except for Piplup's final evolution.

I don't recall anyone mentioning this yet, but what about a Sharpedo evolution? I feel like it should be a member of a three stage line. It's evolution could be made to look more shark like and less Piranha.

I'd like a sudowoodo evolution too, maybe making it into a really big tree instead of a little flimsy one, and yeah fletchling looks like it could be really strong, also it looks like its going to be part fire which is good.