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Old February 23rd, 2011 (11:19 PM). Edited April 20th, 2011 by champagnepapi.
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Old February 24th, 2011 (2:55 AM).
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Latias needs Surf over Thunderbolt because Water + Dragon provides better neutral coverage than Electric + Dragon.

Milotic needs Recover over Haze so that it can survive longer.
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Old February 24th, 2011 (3:47 AM).
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Latias needs Surf over Thunderbolt because Water + Dragon provides better neutral coverage than Electric + Dragon.

Milotic needs Recover over Haze so that it can survive longer.
It actually has Recover and not Toxic, it was 3:00 AM when I posted this. As for the part about Latias, I really prefer to keep T-bolt on it, otherwise Gyara will sweep me.
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Old February 24th, 2011 (4:54 AM).
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    Well, you have Dory and sand, so essentially Gyara needs to get +3 speed before it can really sweep you, and DPulse will still do a number to it when it sets up. That, and Milotic will wall it hard probably, so you shouldn't have too much trouble with Gyarados even without T-bolt on Latias.

    As Infernape go, either Life orb it (yes, it will die faster, but hey, since when didn't Infernape die quickly anyway) or you could perhaps give it a Fighting Plate or w/e it's called, as it still boosts your strongest stab as well as the priority. Consider trying out Nasty Plot Ape as it is one of the few things it can do that Blaziken can't, as Blaziken is practially more useful than Ape unless you run a choiced version (imo) due to its new ability, Speed Boost, and the fact that it hits harder. If you run NP, drop HP Ice, as Salamence dies to a +2 LO focus blast/fire blast with rocks anyway, and you won't be outspeeding any checks that'd be hurt by it like for instance the [email protected]

    Dragonite will be annoying to Ape with multiscale as well, so you could try putting SR on Nattorei over T-wave, as it is 1) counterproductive with gyro ball, and 2) the things that you'll want to hit with it will most likely not stay in unless they run hp fire, in which case you die (read: [email protected])

    Finally, you could try putting X-Scissor on Dory over Rapid Spin if you find it to be a waste of a slot, as it allows you to brutally nail anything psychic/grass, such as the [email protected], Tangrowth, Slowbro (sort of), as well as being your strongest attack against Bronzong.

    Perhaps try having a Fire-type attack on TTar as well, as it will allow you to hit annoying Ferrothorns that will undoubtedly switch into you when they realize that they resist your entire moveset, idk where to put it though.

    Good luck with your team!
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    Old February 24th, 2011 (7:59 AM).
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    Vaporeon/Tyranitar @Choice Scarf
    Sand Stream, Jolly

    Spread: 252 Atk/252 Speed/4 HP
    Set:
    Crunch
    Pursuit
    Stone Edge
    Earthquake
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    SuperPower > Earthquake. Hits Ferrothorn too.

    Vuclan/Infernape @ Life Orb
    Iron Fist, Naive

    Spread: 252 Atk / 64 SpA / 192 Spe
    Set:
    Overheat / Fire Blast
    Close Combat
    Mach Punch
    U-Turn

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    Ape is kinda meh in this meta, [email protected] and faster stuff are everywhere, but ok, this is prolly the best set. Iron Fist >>>>>>>>Blaze.


    Wallace/Ferrothorn @Leftovers
    Iron Barbs, Relaxed

    Spread: 252 HP/204 Def/52 SpDef
    Set:
    Power Whip
    Stealth Rock
    Gyro Ball / Thunder Wave
    Leech Seed

    You NEED stealth Rock or things like Volcarona can keep coming in and wrecking you. T-Wave + Gyro is silly as you will t-wave them and do pathetic damage with it lol.

    Colson Pryce/Excadrill @Balloon
    Sand Throw, Jolly

    Spread: 252 Atk/236 Speed/20 HP
    Set:
    Swords Dance
    Earthquake
    Rock Slide
    Rapid Spin
    --------
    Jolly > Adamant.

    Jackie/Latias @Leftovers
    Levitate, Timid

    Spread: 112 HP/ 204 SpAtk/192 Speed
    Set:
    Dragon Pulse
    Calm Mind
    Recover
    Thunderbolt

    Latios is better and takes less support to actually do something. CM Latias sucks imo, walled by too much and has moveslot syndrome. The best set is CM/Reflect or Roar/Dragon Pulse/Recover but it needs Spikes to work otherwise you're better off with Specs Latios.

    Sean/Milotic @Leftovers
    Marvel Scale, Bold

    Spread: 248 HP/252 Def/8 Speed
    Set:
    Scald/Boil Over
    Ice Beam
    Recover
    Dragon Tail

    Dragon Tail is better than Haze imo
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    Old February 24th, 2011 (1:26 PM).
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    Wow, thank you so much for the rates, guys. Anyhow, I'm faced a dilemma with T-Tar. I was thinking of ditching Pursuit for a fire attack, as Opposite Day mentioned, or giving it SR and ditching the Scarf,
    what do you guys suggest I do?
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