Fans who think anything that's not like Gen 1 is crud.
I don't think any thing that is not Gen 1 is crud, I think anything that is misplaced in the series or just stupid on it's own merits is crud.
So it means the game's story is slowly evolving to what the developers originally planned.
And I ask again, so what?
You have no idea how many people hate Victory Road, as well as Mt. Coronet, because of their frustrating puzzles. The series' primary target are children, and they don't want to place time-consuming puzzles. If you really want the puzzles to stay complex, then they could try to input a super guide like they did with the Zelda games to help younger players.
If they don't want to figure out puzzles then they shouldn't play an RPGs. Look half the fun of RPGs are about figuring stuff out. Figuring out battle strategies, figuring out where to go next and having the patient to take the time to try and figure it out.
If the kids don't want to waste time then they can go play another game. And yes, they can go ask for help but even so, this a flaw in the games that needs to be wipe.
Even so, you are missing my point. My point that the games shouldn't go in the opposite direction. They shouldn't become over simplistic just to appeal to kids who don't want to try. Games far harder then Pokemon have been created and the kids who played those games had the patients to put up with it.
Then don't face Audinos; they're really easy to avoid.
That's not the point. This is going in circles. Okay, I'll try to explain this again.
Say you are playing Super Mario Brothers and you really want to beat it, but you're having trouble. Now, you don't want to use the level skipping warp pipes because you want to beat this on you're own merit but then you find out all you're friends have beaten the game by using the pipes.
So, why exactly at this point should you not use the pipes any more? What will you truly accomplished by not using the pipes? You'll have beaten the game but all friends already did that. Well, you could say you beat it with out using the pipes but what kind of accomplishment is that? Sure I beat a more challenging game of Super Mario Brothers but it was only more difficult because I made the number of opportunities to lose greater.
Let's step back from SMB for a second now. The warp pipe is not a great example because even if you use the pipes you still have a little bit to go before you win the game and the other levels are still very challenging.
Here's the thing though, the Audinos are not the only thing that makes the game easy, nor is the items you get, the map linear, the availability of Trainers to fight, the lack of HMs you need, the help guide, or anything else in the game to make it easier, it's all of them put together. The game constantly gives you the means to beat it easily, and even is built to be easy.
Also, don't tell me again I can make it more difficult for myself I can make any difficult for my self. I don't need a game to do that I can just do that by making every task in my life more difficult to accomplish then necessary. What I need games for is to challenge me, not by making things complicated, but by being clever, by challenging my mind with things I need to think about.
When did I ever said that? You said you wanted games to challenge you, and I only said you should play NES/arcade games, because modern games aren't as difficult as those games. Regardless of that, Iceman3317 pretty much nailed why you find these Pokemon games easy, because you've been playing Pokemon for years. Have you ever considered reading any of these comment on this thread?
Exactly, and difficulty dictates how good a game is. I'm not saying there that all challenging games are necessarily good but all good games have to be challenging. If your saying that none of the modern games are challenging then how can any of them be good.
I read a few but then some started stating that my opinion, and every else who shares my opinion, probably exists for the most rudimentary of reasons. Never just once pondering or asking if the reason maybe is because Gen 5 is not very good.