[Graphics] Gender difference features in Gen III

RoadToCerulean · Aug 28, 2017

Gender difference is a feature introduced in Generation IV. Is there a way to implement gender difference based features in GBA ROMs (FR or EM) including one or more of these:
1. Most basically, different forms based on gender? (e.g Female Pikachu have a heart-shaped tail)
2. Gender exclusive evolution? (e.g Ralts, Snornut, Combee, Salandit)
3. Gender exclusive movesets? (e.g Meowstic)

NewDenverCity · Aug 28, 2017

Yes and no. They are very possible, but nobody has actually implemented them. The evolution thing has been made, but that's it.

Froosty · Aug 28, 2017

I am my friends have somehow been able to do (1.) via ASM, but the routine was kinda buggy, so we have decided to do it in C soon.

Buffel Saft · Aug 29, 2017

Gender exclusive movesets can be done easily by expanding the dex; just set one of the genders up as you would normally, and set the other up as a separate Pokemon, but with the same dex entry as the first. You can then assign them separate movesets, sprites, stats etc. This is also how Meowstic and most other forms with significant differences are set up in the 3DS games.

CaptainDumbChester · Aug 29, 2017

Road_to_Cerulean said:
Gender difference is a feature introduced in Generation IV. Is there a way to implement gender difference based features in GBA ROMs (FR or EM) including one or more of these:
1. Most basically, different forms based on gender? (e.g Female Pikachu have a heart-shaped tail)
2. Gender exclusive evolution? (e.g Ralts, Snornut, Combee, Salandit)
3. Gender exclusive movesets? (e.g Meowstic)

1.Done by KDS the formes , for gender different sprites just create 2 pikacchu with diff sprite .
2.Done Before just search around.
3.Just do 2 different pokemon(male female).

RoadToCerulean · Aug 30, 2017

Buffel Saft said:
Gender exclusive movesets can be done easily by expanding the dex; just set one of the genders up as you would normally, and set the other up as a separate Pokemon, but with the same dex entry as the first. You can then assign them separate movesets, sprites, stats etc. This is also how Meowstic and most other forms with significant differences are set up in the 3DS games.

CaptainDumbChester said:
1.Done by KDS the formes , for gender different sprites just create 2 pikacchu with diff sprite .
2.Done Before just search around.
3.Just do 2 different pokemon(male female).

What if I want the Pokémon with gender differences share the same Pokédex slot? Whether I encounter a male or female Pikachu I want the Pokédex to ONLY register the 25th slot with seen data. Wouldn't it be weird to have a Pokédex displaying a Pokémon in two slots?

Buffel Saft · Aug 30, 2017

Road_to_Cerulean said:
What if I want the Pokémon with gender differences share the same Pokédex slot? Whether I encounter a male or female Pikachu I want the Pokédex to ONLY register the 25th slot with seen data. Wouldn't it be weird to have a Pokédex displaying a Pokémon in two slots?

When you expand the Pokedex you can also set up a number of Pokemon without their own Pokedex entries, but with data for everything else. If you then set their dex order number to match that of another Pokemon, they'll have the same dex entry as that Pokemon, and seeing or catching either of the Pokemon with that order number will register the appropriate information in the Pokedex (so they'll effectively share the same Pokedex slot).

RoadToCerulean · Aug 30, 2017

Buffel Saft said:
When you expand the Pokedex you can also set up a number of Pokemon without their own Pokedex entries, but with data for everything else. If you then set their dex order number to match that of another Pokemon, they'll have the same dex entry as that Pokemon, and seeing or catching either of the Pokemon with that order number will register the appropriate information in the Pokedex (so they'll effectively share the same Pokedex slot).

I've come up with an idea. Unown's forms in Generation III are determined by their personality values. So I think there is a similar way to display a Pokémon based on its gender value? If this is possible, then there is no need to expand the Pokédex.

Buffel Saft · Aug 31, 2017

Road_to_Cerulean said:
I've come up with an idea. Unown's forms in Generation III are determined by their personality values. So I think there is a similar way to display a Pokémon based on its gender value? If this is possible, then there is no need to expand the Pokédex.

That would certainly be possible, and would probably be a better way to implement different sprites for each gender than separate Pokemon. I don't know how hard it would be or if it's been done before, though.

BluRose · Aug 31, 2017

Road_to_Cerulean said:
I've come up with an idea. Unown's forms in Generation III are determined by their personality values. So I think there is a similar way to display a Pokémon based on its gender value? If this is possible, then there is no need to expand the Pokédex.

it also uses 28 pokémon slots up with sprites and only sprites :D
best way to do it would probs be to set it up so that the game loads normally if male, loads at a fixed address away if female
this is how deoxys and assumedly castform do it

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