Cop-out answer. You just said "I agree with someone else so this is how everything should be regardless of what anyone else wants." Again, Smogon does NOT, in any way, control the game, Game Freak does. Also again, they are two different arenas, if you don't like one then stay out of it, it's that simple. The rest of us would rather figure out counters to the hard to beat tactics instead of just avoid them.
Really, I don't think the Smogon arena is inherently bad, just a different format is all, but the attitude of "what we think is what should be" is what has ruined a lot of wonderful things in society for so long it makes me despise Smogonites. This is almost 2014, both mob rule and elitism should be out the door, not elevated onto a soap box.
Throughout the thread there are many counters to it, none require any "dedicated counters for just one." Mega Kahn is becoming less popular in Battle Spot because .... everyone knows a counter to it now, there are so many ways to disable, wreck, and even brute force KO a mega Kahn now, and anyone worth battling knows at least one that does not require any "dedicated" lineups.
I don't think I said people shouldn't use Kangaskhan because of smogon. I think I agreed that smogon has good reasoning behind calling it Uber and that most people who use it are either looking for easier wins or preparing for uber-level battles.
That being said, I don't play smogon, nor do I use their battle formats or clauses. I do, however, try not to use pokemon which are Uber because I find them to be broken in standard play.
People say Mega Kangaskhan is easy to beat or w/e too... but just because you beat one doesn't mean its easy to beat. You have to think, was the trainer you were fighting good? Was your team stacked with specific counters to him?
Idk, after I used him I've only lost maybe four battles and I've used him in like 30 (6v6). Sometimes he goes down, but usually its after taking out a large portion of my opponents teams. Another time my sweep went down to a Ferrothron with Rocky Helmet (took more than half my hp on the power-up punch). Although I still brought 2 pokemon (Ferrothorn and Talonflame) down too. My streak in 3v3 is worse, but not significantly so. Maybe 3-1.
You can say Lugia, Mewtwo, or Kangaskhan suck, but is it in competent hands? Does it have support from the rest of its team? Those are important questions to ask. If you can take Mega Kangaskhan down and the rest of the team sucks... then lol, sure its fair. Or if you fight one and the other person has zero skill in prediction, then sure.
But if two nearly equal strategists are fighting. That's when overpoweredness comes into play.
As for a good and OPed mega kangaskhan team
should deal with getting rid of counters. Once they're gone sweeping any team should be easy. Most Kangaskhan counters are easily dealt with, particularly with good fire pokemon. Baton passing speed to Kangaskhan can destroy any fighting type counters except for Hawlucha. Otherwise carry a ghost.
However my Kangaskhan team isn't intended for dealing with counters, though it still wins relatively easily (it does have a baton passer though).
Again, I don't think I said anything about whether or not Kangaskhan
should or
shouldn't be used. I've only made an observation about the pokemon itself and implications about what using it means to the metagame.
So after yesterday I realized I did the dumbass thing of talking about Mega Kangaskhan and its Ubers status when 1) I've fought all of like 3 of 'em and 2)I've never used one before. So I went and raised one, then took it to the Battle Maison and Battle Spot to see what would happen. And after about a dozen battles between the 2, I've come to this conclusion now.
I'm thinking you didn't give it good team support and put everything on Khan alone, which a lot of people have specific counters for now because the metagame forces it, just as most people have Breloom counters now too. Grass pokemon can't be put to sleep, so use a grass/poison type to wall him and absorb fighting/grass moves.
Unfortunately Weezing isn't available yet.
If you're in 3v3 battles, don't
always use him. Actually take a minute to analyze your opponent's team and plan accordingly. Chances are if you have Mega K on your team, they're going to choose the counters if they have them. That's what they put them on the team for most likely. Use the counters for their counters.
Oh right, battle maison. I did get that streak easily with Mega Kangs. Try using Mega Kangaskhan, Gengar, and Greninja with Kangaskhan as the lead. It should be super easy. Remember to switch to Gengar if facing a good fighting pokemon, and make sure Kangaskhan has scrappy for Mismagius.
Last thing:
every pokemon, overpowered or not, needs team support.
